Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Where are you folks getting 40 minutes on metro?
Right now at 6 am, it’s a 40 min metro ride from metro center to Reston.
At rush hour, it will easily be 70 minutes.
So a family of 4 is going to schlep their luggage on a crowded train? No.
Business travelers whose business will pay for an Uber from downtown? No.
I drive to Dulles all the time. With HOT lanes 66 is never crowded and access road is fast.
Young singletons that used to take the 5A? Sure they will be on the train.
Agree though, Amtrak at BWI is the stuff of nightmares.
Yes.
Absolutely agree. They'll pay $12 max for the trip, as opposed to an Uber for a family of 4 which will be at least $60 or long-term parking at the airport -- $25 a day. Not even including the cost of tolls on I-66.
If you are far enough for an uber to be $60+, the metro fare will be a lot more than $3/person, especially if you are in rush hour, which is defined very broadly by metro. Many people will also need to take an uber from the metro because there aren't that many people who can walk to a metro stop, especially with luggage. It will still be cheaper than an uber from Dulles, but I think you are delusional if you think there are a lot of families of four that are going to take metro.
If you are flying with 4 people you are looking at a bare minimum of $1,000 in airfare, more likely at least $1,200 and often quite a lot more. Tacking on uber fare just isn't that big a deal when you factor in how much time and aggravation you will save, particularly if you have to take more than one metro line.
I regularly take MARC from Baltimore to DC and see people taking those trains from BWI to DC alllll the time.
The ‘it’s not over til it’s under’ was for Tysons, not Dulles. I don’t remember anyone clamoring for it being underground for Dulles.Anonymous wrote:Because the entire process to plan and build the metro took so long the float exploded. The initial plan was to have the metro underground, then they waivered on it and there was.m a big public push to have it underground (remember the slogan “it’s not over until it’s under”). Then there was some allegations about a consultant who was related to one of the board members being awarded a contract to analyze this project being paid to much. It was just a complete governmental shitshow.
We moved here in 2000 and that was when they were discussing the potential for a silver line to Dulles. And here we are in 2019 and it still isn’t finished.
Anonymous wrote:Dulles is one of the worst international airports I've ever experienced. Perhaps only Laguardia is worst.
This metro joke just completes the circle
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Where are you folks getting 40 minutes on metro?
Right now at 6 am, it’s a 40 min metro ride from metro center to Reston.
At rush hour, it will easily be 70 minutes.
So a family of 4 is going to schlep their luggage on a crowded train? No.
Business travelers whose business will pay for an Uber from downtown? No.
I drive to Dulles all the time. With HOT lanes 66 is never crowded and access road is fast.
Young singletons that used to take the 5A? Sure they will be on the train.
Agree though, Amtrak at BWI is the stuff of nightmares.
Yes.
Absolutely agree. They'll pay $12 max for the trip, as opposed to an Uber for a family of 4 which will be at least $60 or long-term parking at the airport -- $25 a day. Not even including the cost of tolls on I-66.
If you are far enough for an uber to be $60+, the metro fare will be a lot more than $3/person, especially if you are in rush hour, which is defined very broadly by metro. Many people will also need to take an uber from the metro because there aren't that many people who can walk to a metro stop, especially with luggage. It will still be cheaper than an uber from Dulles, but I think you are delusional if you think there are a lot of families of four that are going to take metro.
If you are flying with 4 people you are looking at a bare minimum of $1,000 in airfare, more likely at least $1,200 and often quite a lot more. Tacking on uber fare just isn't that big a deal when you factor in how much time and aggravation you will save, particularly if you have to take more than one metro line.
I regularly take MARC from Baltimore to DC and see people taking those trains from BWI to DC alllll the time.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Where are you folks getting 40 minutes on metro?
Right now at 6 am, it’s a 40 min metro ride from metro center to Reston.
At rush hour, it will easily be 70 minutes.
So a family of 4 is going to schlep their luggage on a crowded train? No.
Business travelers whose business will pay for an Uber from downtown? No.
I drive to Dulles all the time. With HOT lanes 66 is never crowded and access road is fast.
Young singletons that used to take the 5A? Sure they will be on the train.
Agree though, Amtrak at BWI is the stuff of nightmares.
Yes.
Absolutely agree. They'll pay $12 max for the trip, as opposed to an Uber for a family of 4 which will be at least $60 or long-term parking at the airport -- $25 a day. Not even including the cost of tolls on I-66.
If you are far enough for an uber to be $60+, the metro fare will be a lot more than $3/person, especially if you are in rush hour, which is defined very broadly by metro. Many people will also need to take an uber from the metro because there aren't that many people who can walk to a metro stop, especially with luggage. It will still be cheaper than an uber from Dulles, but I think you are delusional if you think there are a lot of families of four that are going to take metro.
If you are flying with 4 people you are looking at a bare minimum of $1,000 in airfare, more likely at least $1,200 and often quite a lot more. Tacking on uber fare just isn't that big a deal when you factor in how much time and aggravation you will save, particularly if you have to take more than one metro line.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Because Americans are too cheap to build functioning infrastructure.
Yup. OP, that was a bad decision made years and years ago. A station actually at the terminal would have cost another $330 million, and evidently that was too much to pay for a station that was actually convenient for travelers.
Hah. No. The airport metro is for staff and commuters to use. Actual travelers are not taking a 70 minute train ride from DC with luggage.
The original problem was where Dulles was built.
That's absurd. Of course actual travelers will do that. Maybe not you, but there are plenty of people who aren't you.
I definitely plan to - especially for long international flights.
Walking to the metro from my DC house and then getting on a flight to Paris or Hong Kong after sitting on a train (for just $3!) is going to be so sweet.
Reagan is nice but international flights need a bigger airport.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Dulles is one of the worst international airports I've ever experienced. Perhaps only Laguardia is worst.
This metro joke just completes the circle
Yeah not even close, you need to get out more.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Where are you folks getting 40 minutes on metro?
Right now at 6 am, it’s a 40 min metro ride from metro center to Reston.
At rush hour, it will easily be 70 minutes.
So a family of 4 is going to schlep their luggage on a crowded train? No.
Business travelers whose business will pay for an Uber from downtown? No.
I drive to Dulles all the time. With HOT lanes 66 is never crowded and access road is fast.
Young singletons that used to take the 5A? Sure they will be on the train.
Agree though, Amtrak at BWI is the stuff of nightmares.
Yes.
Absolutely agree. They'll pay $12 max for the trip, as opposed to an Uber for a family of 4 which will be at least $60 or long-term parking at the airport -- $25 a day. Not even including the cost of tolls on I-66.
Anonymous wrote:Dulles is one of the worst international airports I've ever experienced. Perhaps only Laguardia is worst.
This metro joke just completes the circle
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Where are you folks getting 40 minutes on metro?
Right now at 6 am, it’s a 40 min metro ride from metro center to Reston.
At rush hour, it will easily be 70 minutes.
So a family of 4 is going to schlep their luggage on a crowded train? No.
Business travelers whose business will pay for an Uber from downtown? No.
I drive to Dulles all the time. With HOT lanes 66 is never crowded and access road is fast.
Young singletons that used to take the 5A? Sure they will be on the train.
Agree though, Amtrak at BWI is the stuff of nightmares.
Yes.
Anonymous wrote:Dulles is one of the worst international airports I've ever experienced. Perhaps only Laguardia is worst.
This metro joke just completes the circle
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Where are you folks getting 40 minutes on metro?
Right now at 6 am, it’s a 40 min metro ride from metro center to Reston.
At rush hour, it will easily be 70 minutes.
So a family of 4 is going to schlep their luggage on a crowded train? No.
Business travelers whose business will pay for an Uber from downtown? No.
I drive to Dulles all the time. With HOT lanes 66 is never crowded and access road is fast.
Young singletons that used to take the 5A? Sure they will be on the train.
Agree though, Amtrak at BWI is the stuff of nightmares.
Yes.

Anonymous wrote:Where are you folks getting 40 minutes on metro?
Right now at 6 am, it’s a 40 min metro ride from metro center to Reston.
At rush hour, it will easily be 70 minutes.
So a family of 4 is going to schlep their luggage on a crowded train? No.
Business travelers whose business will pay for an Uber from downtown? No.
I drive to Dulles all the time. With HOT lanes 66 is never crowded and access road is fast.
Young singletons that used to take the 5A? Sure they will be on the train.
Agree though, Amtrak at BWI is the stuff of nightmares.