Anonymous
08/30/2019 10:22
Subject: How can we strengthen our laws.to have severely mentally ill in the District committed?
Hitler did this.
Anonymous
08/30/2019 10:21
Subject: How can we strengthen our laws.to have severely mentally ill in the District committed?
Anonymous wrote:This is the problem with red flag laws.
How do you define mental illness? And who is making this judgement call? Civil rights?
What are the checks and balances? You cant just go around arbitrarily plucking out people whom you deem are crazy....and if that was the case 2/3 of people posting in dcum would be committed.
Courts do this, all the time. There's a mental health court located right inside Bellevue in NYC.
Anonymous
08/30/2019 09:42
Subject: How can we strengthen our laws.to have severely mentally ill in the District committed?
This is the problem with red flag laws.
How do you define mental illness? And who is making this judgement call? Civil rights?
What are the checks and balances? You cant just go around arbitrarily plucking out people whom you deem are crazy....and if that was the case 2/3 of people posting in dcum would be committed.
How do you define mental illness? And who is making this judgement call? Civil rights?
What are the checks and balances? You cant just go around arbitrarily plucking out people whom you deem are crazy....and if that was the case 2/3 of people posting in dcum would be committed.
Anonymous
08/30/2019 09:34
Subject: How can we strengthen our laws.to have severely mentally ill in the District committed?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Commit them where? You know we don't have insane asylums, right?
Why don’t we have actual mental health facilities??
Yes why? We have mental illness, but no facilities?
There are mental health facilities. Both public and private. I'm not sure why people are claiming there aren't any.
So if a homeless, addicted person with schizophrenia decided one day that they wanted treatment and medication, they could go somewhere and get treatment?
Yes. Are you local? VA’s hospital is behind FFX hospital and close-in MD is off 270, I forget the exit.
Uh. Have you ever tried to help a family member get treatment? I'm guessing no, because just having the address of a facility isn't going to do it for you.
The people who make these simplistic statements have never dealt with a severely mentally ill adult family member.
Anonymous
08/30/2019 09:26
Subject: How can we strengthen our laws.to have severely mentally ill in the District committed?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Commit them where? You know we don't have insane asylums, right?
Why don’t we have actual mental health facilities??
Yes why? We have mental illness, but no facilities?
There are mental health facilities. Both public and private. I'm not sure why people are claiming there aren't any.
Even a high-up politician in Virginia couldn't get a mental health bed for his son when it was needed, and his son killed him.
Anonymous
08/30/2019 09:25
Subject: How can we strengthen our laws.to have severely mentally ill in the District committed?
If you elected my dear Bernie.
Anonymous
08/30/2019 09:24
Subject: How can we strengthen our laws.to have severely mentally ill in the District committed?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Commit them where? You know we don't have insane asylums, right?
Why don’t we have actual mental health facilities??
Yes why? We have mental illness, but no facilities?
There are mental health facilities. Both public and private. I'm not sure why people are claiming there aren't any.
So if a homeless, addicted person with schizophrenia decided one day that they wanted treatment and medication, they could go somewhere and get treatment?
Yes. Are you local? VA’s hospital is behind FFX hospital and close-in MD is off 270, I forget the exit.
Uh. Have you ever tried to help a family member get treatment? I'm guessing no, because just having the address of a facility isn't going to do it for you.
Anonymous
08/30/2019 09:19
Subject: How can we strengthen our laws.to have severely mentally ill in the District committed?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2018/09/andrew-goldstein-release-kendras-law.html - fascinating account of the events behind Kendra's Law (mandatory out-patient treatment)
Thanks for sharing this article. It was excellent.
Wasn't that interesting? The fact that it was written in part by a fellow inmate was really cool.
Anonymous
08/30/2019 09:18
Subject: How can we strengthen our laws.to have severely mentally ill in the District committed?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:"Sent back to their state for treatment?"
What kind of authoritarian craziness is that?
We need to start applying a little authoritarianism to the mentally ill homeless.
It would be nice if Charles Allen would look at this. There is zero reason "judicial reform" cant include involuntary hospitalization. Councilman? How about some attention to this??
More mental health clinics and supportive housing. Changing the legal standard for involuntary commitment is not going to do ANYTHING without better resources and more consistent access to treatment. The DC involuntary commitment law is already pretty strong.
Anonymous
08/30/2019 09:16
Subject: How can we strengthen our laws.to have severely mentally ill in the District committed?
Anonymous wrote:http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2018/09/andrew-goldstein-release-kendras-law.html - fascinating account of the events behind Kendra's Law (mandatory out-patient treatment)
Thanks for sharing this article. It was excellent.
Anonymous
08/29/2019 19:12
Subject: How can we strengthen our laws.to have severely mentally ill in the District committed?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:"Sent back to their state for treatment?"
What kind of authoritarian craziness is that?
We need to start applying a little authoritarianism to the mentally ill homeless.
It would be nice if Charles Allen would look at this. There is zero reason "judicial reform" cant include involuntary hospitalization. Councilman? How about some attention to this??
Anonymous
08/29/2019 16:07
Subject: How can we strengthen our laws.to have severely mentally ill in the District committed?
Anonymous wrote:"Sent back to their state for treatment?"
What kind of authoritarian craziness is that?
We need to start applying a little authoritarianism to the mentally ill homeless.
Anonymous
08/29/2019 16:06
Subject: How can we strengthen our laws.to have severely mentally ill in the District committed?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Basically, we as a society don't GAF about the poor, drug addicted, and mentally ill, until they make us sit up and take notice in horrible events like murder. Then we try to impose top-down solutions ("just put them in jail forever!" "send them back to their home states!") which are unrealistic, ineffective, and would corrode civil liberties.
The reason I suggested home state is that DC attracts a high proportion foschizoid. Their home states may be better equipped to care for them and they may be nearer to family. We certainly dont do sh* for them. What's your solution?.
March them across the 14th Street bridge to Virginia some night, the way MPD did with prostitutes once during the Barry era. It was his singular accomplishment.
Anonymous
08/29/2019 16:05
Subject: How can we strengthen our laws.to have severely mentally ill in the District committed?
Good luck with that. Activists are trying to get enforcement practice, if not laws, changed to protect homeless encampments. This is despite DC police statistics showing a rise in robberies and muggings after a homeless encampment becomes set up.
Anonymous
08/29/2019 10:46
Subject: How can we strengthen our laws.to have severely mentally ill in the District committed?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Commit them where? You know we don't have insane asylums, right?
Why don’t we have actual mental health facilities??
Yes why? We have mental illness, but no facilities?
There are mental health facilities. Both public and private. I'm not sure why people are claiming there aren't any.
So if a homeless, addicted person with schizophrenia decided one day that they wanted treatment and medication, they could go somewhere and get treatment?
Yes. Are you local? VA’s hospital is behind FFX hospital and close-in MD is off 270, I forget the exit.