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Anonymous wrote:Not sure why people are jumping on PP. OP was asking if it's common and PP said more common in heavier girls. That's true.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-2007-04-04-0704020202-story.html

Obese or overweight girls may be the exception to the rule, Kaplowitz warns. His caution is backed up by a recent study published in Pediatrics. It shows that by age 9, 80 percent of obese girls have begun to develop, versus 58 percent of overweight girls and 40 percent of girls in the normal weight range.

PP may have been factually accurate, but it was irrelevant to OP’s question and was simply a snotty side comment with no reason other than to be unkind.

NP. Parents of overweight young children need a wake up call. The epidemic has gotten so much worse and it makes me sad every time I leave my house. One of my DD’s good friends is already very chubby at 10. Her mom buys all kinds of crap food and does not restrict her diet whatsoever. As in regularly eats pop tarts for breakfast, is allowed to eat an entire sleeve of GS cookies in a sitting, unrestricted access to candy, etc.

The parents do. But making fun of or shaming the child is horrible. If you can't tell the difference between educating a parent in a kind way and making fun of a child, you need to shut up.

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Anonymous wrote:My 12 year old has noticeable protrusions, but has not asked for a bra. I don't understand the purpose of a training bra. If her breasts are big enough to need support, she needs a real bra. If she doesn't need the support, she doesn't need anything.

Uh, if you can see breast buds through her shirt, she needs another layer.

This isn't going to be PC but the girls that age who need them (I only have boys) are the chubby ones.

Why do we need to tell girls that their bodies' changes are harmful and need to be hidden?

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I wear a bra for support, not to hide my body.

??? How are you "hiding your body"? You are presumably wearing a shirt whether you wear a bra or not? Zealous feminists make the rest of us look bad.

No, idiots like you make us look bad. Women are often the worst perpetrators of shaming other women for having curves.

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Anonymous wrote:My 12 year old has noticeable protrusions, but has not asked for a bra. I don't understand the purpose of a training bra. If her breasts are big enough to need support, she needs a real bra. If she doesn't need the support, she doesn't need anything.

Uh, if you can see breast buds through her shirt, she needs another layer.

This isn't going to be PC but the girls that age who need them (I only have boys) are the chubby ones.

Why do we need to tell girls that their bodies' changes are harmful and need to be hidden?

And why do we need to make comments about girls' bodies that are unrelated to OP's question, and downright rude. "The chubby ones"? Really, PP? You're talking about 8 year old girls and calling them names. I hope your boys are being taught better than that.

No one is calling anyone names. It's true that heavier girls are more likely to have breast buds at this age. Don't be so sensitive.
-not pp

"The girls that are who need them are the chubby ones." So, you'd be totally fine with someone walking up to you and saying "You're chubby." I mean, it's not calling anyone names. Don't be so sensitive.

PP didn't say heavier girls are more likely to have breast buds. S/he said the girls who need a training bra at 8 are chubby. Which is not true, a rude thing to say, and yes, name-calling.

Making an anonymous comment about a non-specific group of people is NOT the same as walking up to someone and insulting them. Are you for real?

DP. Are you for real? It demonstrates a toxic attitude that will find it's way out into the light one way or another. Calling out the PPs on this thread making these insensitive comments is the proper thing to do.

It's time to stop this sh*t.

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Anonymous wrote:My 12 year old has noticeable protrusions, but has not asked for a bra. I don't understand the purpose of a training bra. If her breasts are big enough to need support, she needs a real bra. If she doesn't need the support, she doesn't need anything.

Uh, if you can see breast buds through her shirt, she needs another layer.

This isn't going to be PC but the girls that age who need them (I only have boys) are the chubby ones.

And clearly you will do a lousy job of raising them. Just what we need, more boys who show no respect for girls.

You are gross, PP.

My daughter at 9 started wearing a bra because the breast buds are sensitive. She started her period the month before she turned 10.

There are several factors out there lowering the age of development. I know one is dairy, but there are other issues unrelated to diet.

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Anonymous wrote:My 12 year old has noticeable protrusions, but has not asked for a bra. I don't understand the purpose of a training bra. If her breasts are big enough to need support, she needs a real bra. If she doesn't need the support, she doesn't need anything.

Uh, if you can see breast buds through her shirt, she needs another layer.

This isn't going to be PC but the girls that age who need them (I only have boys) are the chubby ones.

Why do we need to tell girls that their bodies' changes are harmful and need to be hidden?

+1million
I wear a bra for support, not to hide my body.

??? How are you "hiding your body"? You are presumably wearing a shirt whether you wear a bra or not? Zealous feminists make the rest of us look bad.

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Anonymous wrote:My 12 year old has noticeable protrusions, but has not asked for a bra. I don't understand the purpose of a training bra. If her breasts are big enough to need support, she needs a real bra. If she doesn't need the support, she doesn't need anything.

Uh, if you can see breast buds through her shirt, she needs another layer.

This isn't going to be PC but the girls that age who need them (I only have boys) are the chubby ones.

Why do we need to tell girls that their bodies' changes are harmful and need to be hidden?

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I wear a bra for support, not to hide my body.

Anonymous wrote:My DD1 started wearing a bralette at 10. She's 11 now. My 9YO is not developing yet.

I will say that it's not just about appearances. I gave DD1 the choice on whether to wear a bra very early on, and she wanted to try it because the buds are sensitive. She likes having that extra, thin layer over them. We stick solely with unlined shelf/sports/bralettes.

Providing clothing that makes a child comfortable is very different from requiring a child to wear a bra because otherwise someone would be able to see her development.

I started buying sports bras for my daughter at age 9. She's developing a bit earlier than I did. (she's not really chubby but she's not really thin either.) We did sports bras vs. training bras in part because she is weird/sensitive about spaghetti straps and partly because sports bras are more "athletic" vs. "bra" and she's a sporty kid.

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Anonymous wrote:Not sure why people are jumping on PP. OP was asking if it's common and PP said more common in heavier girls. That's true.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-2007-04-04-0704020202-story.html

Obese or overweight girls may be the exception to the rule, Kaplowitz warns. His caution is backed up by a recent study published in Pediatrics. It shows that by age 9, 80 percent of obese girls have begun to develop, versus 58 percent of overweight girls and 40 percent of girls in the normal weight range.

PP may have been factually accurate, but it was irrelevant to OP’s question and was simply a snotty side comment with no reason other than to be unkind.

It's actually not irrelevant. She asked if it was common. In overweight girls, it is.

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Anonymous wrote:Not sure why people are jumping on PP. OP was asking if it's common and PP said more common in heavier girls. That's true.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-2007-04-04-0704020202-story.html

Obese or overweight girls may be the exception to the rule, Kaplowitz warns. His caution is backed up by a recent study published in Pediatrics. It shows that by age 9, 80 percent of obese girls have begun to develop, versus 58 percent of overweight girls and 40 percent of girls in the normal weight range.

PP may have been factually accurate, but it was irrelevant to OP’s question and was simply a snotty side comment with no reason other than to be unkind.

NP. Parents of overweight young children need a wake up call. The epidemic has gotten so much worse and it makes me sad every time I leave my house. One of my DD’s good friends is already very chubby at 10. Her mom buys all kinds of crap food and does not restrict her diet whatsoever. As in regularly eats pop tarts for breakfast, is allowed to eat an entire sleeve of GS cookies in a sitting, unrestricted access to candy, etc.

My DD1 started wearing a bralette at 10. She's 11 now. My 9YO is not developing yet.

I will say that it's not just about appearances. I gave DD1 the choice on whether to wear a bra very early on, and she wanted to try it because the buds are sensitive. She likes having that extra, thin layer over them. We stick solely with unlined shelf/sports/bralettes.

My DD just turned 10 and asked for bralettes a couple months before her birthday. We first talked about it because some kid on the camp bus one year said ALL 4th grade girls HAD to wear a bra. (That was the summer before she started 4th). I told her that’s not true, some will, others won’t, but if she wants to I’d be happy to get her something appropriate. We talked a little about puberty a couple times during 4th grade, and then in the summer she wanted them. Right around when she started developing breast buds. I tried to let her comfort drive the decision because she mostly doesn’t need them but my mom waited until I REALLY needed a bra to buy me one and really it should have been sooner and was awkward. I think my first bra was a 32B.

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Anonymous wrote:My 12 year old has noticeable protrusions, but has not asked for a bra. I don't understand the purpose of a training bra. If her breasts are big enough to need support, she needs a real bra. If she doesn't need the support, she doesn't need anything.

Uh, if you can see breast buds through her shirt, she needs another layer.

This isn't going to be PC but the girls that age who need them (I only have boys) are the chubby ones.

Why do we need to tell girls that their bodies' changes are harmful and need to be hidden?

Yes, I absolutely agree with this sentiment! Please don't make your little girls think they should be hiding their developing bodies!