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Anonymous wrote:Because women have to have better qualifications to get a job. Men are still paid more than women.

But are qualifications the same as performance and skill? You can get every piece of paper and all the A's under the rainbow but if you can't perform, you're not getting promoted.

Until women started getting the qualifications (which are a proxy for having the performance and skill - that's how you get the qualifications), that was the excuse for them not getting the jobs and promotions. Now you have to come up with new reasons that it's not sexism; it's that women don't deserve it!

Studies also show that women continue to not be recognized for their performance and skill like men are.
So women have the credentials, they have the performance and the skill, and men are still over promoted in comparison.
It's sexism.

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Anonymous wrote:Because women have to have better qualifications to get a job. Men are still paid more than women.

But are qualifications the same as performance and skill? You can get every piece of paper and all the A's under the rainbow but if you can't perform, you're not getting promoted.

No it's that men aren't pulling their weight in the household, so women lean out from work when they have kids. Plus, no maternity leave. That's why women aren't paid the same. They are forced to pull back.

Anonymous wrote:Because women have to have better qualifications to get a job. Men are still paid more than women.

But are qualifications the same as performance and skill? You can get every piece of paper and all the A's under the rainbow but if you can't perform, you're not getting promoted.

Because women have to have better qualifications to get a job. Men are still paid more than women.

Anonymous wrote:I posted on the other thread. Actual studies on this conclude the achievement gap across the education spectrum is due to women having better executive function skills and their pre-frontal cortex developing earlier.

Which leads to... failure to launch, video game addiction, substance abuse, etc. and just generally not having their shit together. In non-STEM fields there is now affirmative action for white men. They are getting in under lower standards to try to balance classes. And classes are still unbalanced. Look at the WM admissions numbers.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/affirmative-action-still-matters_n_5981d9b6e4b0353fbb33e1bb
In STEM and the fields that are hot, white women are the largest beneficiaries of affirmative action.

I posted on the other thread. Actual studies on this conclude the achievement gap across the education spectrum is due to women having better executive function skills and their pre-frontal cortex developing earlier.

Which leads to... failure to launch, video game addiction, substance abuse, etc. and just generally not having their shit together. In non-STEM fields there is now affirmative action for white men. They are getting in under lower standards to try to balance classes. And classes are still unbalanced. Look at the WM admissions numbers.

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This is such a BS argument. It's been used to try to explain to women why they shouldn't expect to be at the top of anything. "But look, sweetie, while women will never be the smartest, they'll never be the dumbest either! Those are all men too! Don't you feel better now?"

And I suppose you also believe we separate Olympics competitions by gender just for fun.

Thanks for the strawman!

Women have to protect themselves.

Women are the ones who get pregnant, who have the children if they get pregnant and keep them. Men can rape, and not be held responsible for the outcome. Men can leave after consensual sex. Women are stuck. An education can help provide options.

Women are often at the financial and physical mercy of men, and education is one way to leverage some control over our lives.

Women are newly allowed into many colleges and fields. We're still in the "we have to work really hard for our success" phase. My mother wasn't allowed to take higher level math courses in high school, those were for boys. She had me in every advanced class I qualified for, and pushed me towards a rigorous college education. I was often the only or one of the only girls in my college math, science, and engineering courses. I am explicit with my daughter that she can do these things, and that being in the minority doesn't mean she's in the wrong place or not supposed to be there.

My grandmother stayed with my abusive, drunk, grandfather because she had no choice. My mother had slightly more choices, although she was a mother before she had credit of her own, and could open accounts without my father's name on them. I have a vast array of choices, my parents made sure I had my own finances (we're not wealthy, but my dad, having grown up in a household where his mother was stuck, understood what an emergency fund in his mother's name might have done for her), and my education has also made sure I had options.

My daughter will go to college and get an education because the world is not safe for women. Education is power.

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This is such a BS argument. It's been used to try to explain to women why they shouldn't expect to be at the top of anything. "But look, sweetie, while women will never be the smartest, they'll never be the dumbest either! Those are all men too! Don't you feel better now?"

And I suppose you also believe we separate Olympics competitions by gender just for fun.

Anonymous wrote:Girls go to college to get more knowledge.
Boys go to Jupiter to get more stupider.

Yes, even my 3rd grade daughter could tell you that.

Girls go to college to get more knowledge.
Boys go to Jupiter to get more stupider.

Anonymous wrote:Because the "female" equivalent of decent-earning middle-skill jobs requires an associate's in many cases, but the male equivalent does not. See: allied health jobs such as dental hygienist.

Yes, a typical small town path for a female would possibly be getting a job while working on an associate's to get an allied health degree or to possibly become a teacher's aide.

Versus a male would go to a trade school (to become a mechanic or carpenter, or go to CDL training) or join the military.

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Anonymous wrote:Based on another thread, the national ratio is 60% female and 40% male.

Why is this? What are male high school graduates doing? Do they eventually go to college? If so, wouldn't the ratio be 50 - 50?

Distribution of intelligence for boys is more spread out than girls so the boys at both ends of the curve don't make it to college or drop out either because it is too boring or too difficult.

Wut?

Not the PP who wrote this, but it's true. Basically males tend to be more skewed than females. Not just in intelligence, but in other areas as well. It's why there is such extremes among men, such as having a large proportion of men in jail, drug addicts, abusers, etc., plus a large percentage who are very stable. Women don't fall into such extremes as men do.

This is such a BS argument. It's been used to try to explain to women why they shouldn't expect to be at the top of anything. "But look, sweetie, while women will never be the smartest, they'll never be the dumbest either! Those are all men too! Don't you feel better now?"

Just because it may be used in a negative way, doesn't mean there isn't truth to it.

Anonymous wrote:1. Because the trade jobs for women suck and pay little. It is easier for a man to break into plumbing or electrical work. Have you noticed who always holds the stop sign at a construction project?

2. School rewards the well-behaved and obedient. So on average, girls do better in elementary school.... high school. This sets them on the path to college success in greater numbers than the boys.

This is the reason. In the past, the reason why girls didn't attend college in the same numbers, was because they weren't necessarily expected to. It was perfectly accepted to work as a secretary until getting married, and then you didn't have to work anymore. Nowadays, where everyone is encouraged to attend college, it's going to be the well-behaved and obedient who are more likely to do so, and by and far they tend to be females.

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Anonymous wrote:Based on another thread, the national ratio is 60% female and 40% male.

Why is this? What are male high school graduates doing? Do they eventually go to college? If so, wouldn't the ratio be 50 - 50?

Distribution of intelligence for boys is more spread out than girls so the boys at both ends of the curve don't make it to college or drop out either because it is too boring or too difficult.

Wut?

Not the PP who wrote this, but it's true. Basically males tend to be more skewed than females. Not just in intelligence, but in other areas as well. It's why there is such extremes among men, such as having a large proportion of men in jail, drug addicts, abusers, etc., plus a large percentage who are very stable. Women don't fall into such extremes as men do.

This is such a BS argument. It's been used to try to explain to women why they shouldn't expect to be at the top of anything. "But look, sweetie, while women will never be the smartest, they'll never be the dumbest either! Those are all men too! Don't you feel better now?"