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Anonymous wrote:I make certain assumptions about, say, undergrad business majors that I fully admit are classist. What can I say. My mother was from the "landed gentry" class in her country (mostly broke but proud of their lineage and very connected) and while I try to judge all people as individuals and recognize that different doesn't mean better, I still notice these things. There are a lot of things I was taught are fine for "other people" but not how we do it.

Undergrad business majors are objectively morons.

LOL. I supervise 30-50 of them at the time and it's a hoot.

Anonymous wrote:I make certain assumptions about, say, undergrad business majors that I fully admit are classist. What can I say. My mother was from the "landed gentry" class in her country (mostly broke but proud of their lineage and very connected) and while I try to judge all people as individuals and recognize that different doesn't mean better, I still notice these things. There are a lot of things I was taught are fine for "other people" but not how we do it.

Undergrad business majors are objectively morons.

I make certain assumptions about, say, undergrad business majors that I fully admit are classist. What can I say. My mother was from the "landed gentry" class in her country (mostly broke but proud of their lineage and very connected) and while I try to judge all people as individuals and recognize that different doesn't mean better, I still notice these things. There are a lot of things I was taught are fine for "other people" but not how we do it.

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Anonymous wrote:I see it here on DCUM all the time...casually assuming everyone lives like you do. Example on the laundry thread... "It's so easy! Just throw it in the washer!"... never thinking that some people don't have a washer/dryer in their home. Little things like that...

Yep. Or how "it's so inexpensive to travel around Europe." No, it's not.

Ok, two very different examples. The first is not classism.

Are you kidding me? The DCUM pearl clutchers can NOT fathom having to drag their wash to a laundromat. *gasp*

That's for the poors.

Yes that is for the poors

Not only that, they cannot fathom their teenage daughter maybe having to clean the bathrooms in the movie theatre she got the part time job at. The Blood of Strangers!

I'm trying to figure out the difference between, what?--wealthism?--vs classism. Plus although I can easily imagine the old money vs nouveau riche thing, not sure what it would look like if the classist person wasn't actually wealthy. Plus, I think classism has less to do with overlooking the fact that some people lack resources others take for granted (Wilbur Mills saying the furloughed fed contractors could just take out loans) than some kind of judgment about people perhaps?

Here's one thing, although I grew up working class (poor? not exactly but, say, our house did not have a separate dining room and there were a lot of second hand clothes) I have friend who grew up affluent or fairly (not spectacularly) wealthy. And some of them have siblings who were ne'er do wells when they were in their 20s--unemployed living at home not finishing college for example. Those siblings later became affluent, because they were able to later go back to school using their education trust fund, or went into business for themselves and had tons of connections, or a family friend gave them a good paying job and later the inheritance rolled in. And they seem to have zero consciousness of the fact that had they not had those advantages they'd probably be living in a generic apartment building with thin walls and having to fix their crappy car in the apartment parking lot and getting free or reduced price meals for their kids or not able to keep up on child support and working as a line welder in a place that makes, oh, commercial trailers. Even though they grew up in very socially conscious families.

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Anonymous wrote:Making fun of chain restaurants.
Making fun of vacation spots like Branson, MO, or Myrtle Beach, SC.

Chain restaurants are suburban, not a classist thing

There are plenty of chain restaurants in cities. DC is soon to be the proud owner of two Cheesecake Factories . . .

As rents increase, it is getting harder for a lot of independent places to make it and you have more chains coming in. Suburbs obviously have their share of chains, but they also have plenty of independent mom and pop places that could never afford to open in the city.

Don't forget Wawa...

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Anonymous wrote:I see it here on DCUM all the time...casually assuming everyone lives like you do. Example on the laundry thread... "It's so easy! Just throw it in the washer!"... never thinking that some people don't have a washer/dryer in their home. Little things like that...

Yep. Or how "it's so inexpensive to travel around Europe." No, it's not.

Ok, two very different examples. The first is not classism.

Are you kidding me? The DCUM pearl clutchers can NOT fathom having to drag their wash to a laundromat. *gasp*

That's for the poors.

Yes that is for the poors

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Anonymous wrote:Making fun of chain restaurants.
Making fun of vacation spots like Branson, MO, or Myrtle Beach, SC.

Chain restaurants are suburban, not a classist thing

There are plenty of chain restaurants in cities. DC is soon to be the proud owner of two Cheesecake Factories . . .

As rents increase, it is getting harder for a lot of independent places to make it and you have more chains coming in. Suburbs obviously have their share of chains, but they also have plenty of independent mom and pop places that could never afford to open in the city.

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Anonymous wrote:Classism has to do with wealth---or the perception of wealth---coupled with how a person carries himself.

Living in the city isn't inherently classy.

That's because no one is talking about being classy ffs.


class·ism

prejudice against or in favor of people belonging to a particular social class.
"they are told to be on watch against the evils of classism"

Um, your definition essentially mirrors the post you quoted.

Belonging to a particular social class = your perceived wealth or lack thereof

Generally speaking, people assess/judge your social class based on how you present/carry yourself (among other things, such as your home, car, job, where you summer, etc.).

One thing that I experience a lot is that since I was poor I must have been unhappy. We were always very happy. Because we constantly worried about money it was almost a non worry. It was a life constant so it wasn't something that weighed on me anymore than whether it was going to rain or not. Everyone I knew was poor so it was the state I was comfortable with. I remember I passed my old apartment once on the way to a meeting while riding with co workers. I pointed it out and one of them went "that must be very hard for you to see." Umm no it isn't Cheryl...that was my home and I loved it!

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Anonymous wrote:I see it here on DCUM all the time...casually assuming everyone lives like you do. Example on the laundry thread... "It's so easy! Just throw it in the washer!"... never thinking that some people don't have a washer/dryer in their home. Little things like that...

Yep. Or how "it's so inexpensive to travel around Europe." No, it's not.

Ok, two very different examples. The first is not classism.

Tell us why not.

Most Americans have washers.

What about “google it” ?? Is that classist? More Americans have a washing machine than a device w/ an internet connection.

This is ostensibly an URBAN website. All the yahoos in flyover land who post here don't think about the people in east coast cities who live in postwar apartment buildings. Plenty of people in DC don't have washers.

+1!

The two of you don’t even hide your elitism in showing your disdain for “flyover country.”

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Anonymous wrote:I see it here on DCUM all the time...casually assuming everyone lives like you do. Example on the laundry thread... "It's so easy! Just throw it in the washer!"... never thinking that some people don't have a washer/dryer in their home. Little things like that...

Yep. Or how "it's so inexpensive to travel around Europe." No, it's not.

Ok, two very different examples. The first is not classism.

Tell us why not.

Most Americans have washers.

What about “google it” ?? Is that classist? More Americans have a washing machine than a device w/ an internet connection.

I just googled it; 98% of households have washing machines. I agree; it's not classist to assume someone is in the top 98%.

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Anonymous wrote:I see it here on DCUM all the time...casually assuming everyone lives like you do. Example on the laundry thread... "It's so easy! Just throw it in the washer!"... never thinking that some people don't have a washer/dryer in their home. Little things like that...

Yep. Or how "it's so inexpensive to travel around Europe." No, it's not.

Ok, two very different examples. The first is not classism.

Tell us why not.

Most Americans have washers.

What about “google it” ?? Is that classist? More Americans have a washing machine than a device w/ an internet connection.

This is ostensibly an URBAN website. All the yahoos in flyover land who post here don't think about the people in east coast cities who live in postwar apartment buildings. Plenty of people in DC don't have washers.

+1!

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Anonymous wrote:I see it here on DCUM all the time...casually assuming everyone lives like you do. Example on the laundry thread... "It's so easy! Just throw it in the washer!"... never thinking that some people don't have a washer/dryer in their home. Little things like that...

Yep. Or how "it's so inexpensive to travel around Europe." No, it's not.

Ok, two very different examples. The first is not classism.

Are you kidding me? The DCUM pearl clutchers can NOT fathom having to drag their wash to a laundromat. *gasp*

That's for the poors.

My machine broke a little while ago, and I had to go to the laundromat for a few weeks until the part needed to repair it came in. I was surprised at how much the laundromat process had changed and also surprised at how many people still use it. I had assumed that most apartments had machines inside the units.

Anonymous wrote:I see it here on DCUM all the time...casually assuming everyone lives like you do. Example on the laundry thread... "It's so easy! Just throw it in the washer!"... never thinking that some people don't have a washer/dryer in their home. Little things like that...

I don't view that example as classist, more out of touch.