Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:But that is the average FULL professor and there are more of the others. The others do not make that much.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:That used to be the case (and not just Harvard- many Universities in the area), but most profs are priced of out Lexington now.Anonymous wrote:I am surprised there are boarding schools on this list, but they are more academic than people give them credit for. A lot of Harvard professors who live in Lexington same with Princeton high.
The average full professor at Harvard makes 200,000 and often has additional income from consulting gigs. Also many have spouses that are lawyers and doctors.
https://www.businessinsider.com/harvard-has-highest-paid-professors-2012-4
Most of the college professors I know have family $$ or are supported by a spouse. Not that many poor kids can afford to get a PhD from the kind of top colleges you'd need to get a teaching gig at Harvard, Princeton or MIT (yes, I know many PhD programs are "fully funded," but not many students can afford to be out of the workforce that long and risk a really tough job market for a potential job that isn't all that lucrative to begin with).
Anonymous wrote:This list means nothing for unhooked kids. My kids attend one of these schools. The parent population is chock full of Harvard and Princeton grads. So their kids are Legacy and come first in admissions to Harvard and Princeton (I don't know how MIT works so leaving it out of my reply)
Also, there's a bunch of kids with parents that are worth serious money...multi-millions or billions from China. They give a lot to the school. Their kids get priority in college admissions, some say even over the Legacy kids.
My kids are cut out of the Ivys because they come in under those two groups, and are not athletic recruits. I've been told as much (in carefully worded terms).
I keep them in the school because it's a fantastic school and my kids have learned so much. And they'll go somewhere good.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Dumb list OP. Obviously using only H P and MIT to juke the outcome. Include Yale and Stanford or this is worthless.
Stanford-yes but Yale has seen better days.
Anonymous wrote:
From TJ, I don’t think any since 2015. They only have 5-6 a year. And recently a kid was an MIT recruit. But I haven’t seen any Harvard or Princeton.
And for people griping, realize almost all of the TJ admits are completely unhooked. 95% of TJ is white or Asian, it’s 1% FARMS and it’s mostly first. Gen. Americans. Very few legacies. Stuy kids do have demographics working for them. Exeter and the other boarding schools have legacies.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:TJHS is totally better than elite New England boarding schools!
Said nobody, ever. TJ tiger parents are so desperate and intense. Striver city.
For STEM it probably is better.
Yeah, connections and soft skills are totally overrated! Hope your kids enjoy being back office grinds.
Maybe you haven't heard, Goldman Sachs, Morgan Stanley, JP Morgan etc. for example are cutting thousand of Investment Banking division jobs (soft skills) while increasingly hiring more and more "Strats", "Quants" and "Quant Traders" for their front office divisions. Guess what these strats, quants and quant traders studied? That's right-math, CS, stat and physics!
You would be surprised how well poised and well-rounded these strats/quants are at these large IBs are these days. You should get out more.
Oh, same goes for big consulting firms like McKinsey, Bain, Boston Consulting etc. Guess which majors they hire more than history grad from Harvard or English major from Yale? Engineering majors, CS majors etc. from top 20 universities with high gpas. Just getting a degree in"easy" major from the Ivies are not cutting it anymore. Automation/AI is hitting these places big time. as well.
+100.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:TJHS is totally better than elite New England boarding schools!
Said nobody, ever. TJ tiger parents are so desperate and intense. Striver city.
For STEM it probably is better.
Yeah, connections and soft skills are totally overrated! Hope your kids enjoy being back office grinds.
Maybe you haven't heard, Goldman Sachs, Morgan Stanley, JP Morgan etc. for example are cutting thousand of Investment Banking division jobs (soft skills) while increasingly hiring more and more "Strats", "Quants" and "Quant Traders" for their front office divisions. Guess what these strats, quants and quant traders studied? That's right-math, CS, stat and physics!
You would be surprised how well poised and well-rounded these strats/quants are at these large IBs are these days. You should get out more.
Oh, same goes for big consulting firms like McKinsey, Bain, Boston Consulting etc. Guess which majors they hire more than history grad from Harvard or English major from Yale? Engineering majors, CS majors etc. from top 20 universities with high gpas. Just getting a degree in"easy" major from the Ivies are not cutting it anymore. Automation/AI is hitting these places big time. as well.
Anonymous wrote:
Rank 1
THOMAS JEFFERSON HIGH SCHOOL ALEXANDRIA, VA
Class Size:423Free/Reduced Lunch:2%Student/Teacher Ratio:17/1 Asian:60%White:29%American Indian:2%Hispanic:2%Black:1%Hawaiian:1%
Harvard 11 Princeton 33 MIT 35
Total 79
Rank 2
STUYVESANT HIGH SCHOOL NEW YORK, NY
Class Size:805Free/Reduced Lunch:45%Student/Teacher Ratio:21/1 Asian:73%White:20%Hispanic:3%Black:1%American Indian:<1%
Harvard26 Princeton 23 MIT 22
Total 71
Rank 3
PHILLIPS EXETER ACADEMY EXETER, NH
Class Size:320Student/Teacher Ratio:7/1Boarding Tuition:$49,880Day Tuition:$38,740Financial Aid:Yes hite:56%Asian:23%Black:11%Hispanic:9%American Indian:1%
Harvard 23 Princeton 25 MIT 22
Total 70
Rank 4
THE LAWRENCEVILLE SCHOOL LAWRENCEVILLE, NJ
Class Size:221Student/Teacher Ratio:7/1Boarding Tuition:$62,190Day Tuition:$51,440Financial Aid:Yes White:55%Asian:21%Black:10%Hispanic:6%
Harvard 8 Princeton 47 MIT 8
Total 63
Rank 5
PHILLIPS ACADEMY ANDOVER, MA
Class Size:319Student/Teacher Ratio:5/1Boarding Tuition:$53,900Day Tuition:$41,900Financial Aid:Yes White:54%Asian:26%Hispanic:6%Black:6%
Harvard 33 Princeton 17 MIT 12
Total 62
Rank 6
BOSTON LATIN SCHOOL BOSTON, MA
Class Size:363Free/Reduced Lunch:26%Student/Teacher Ratio:21/1 White:47%Asian:28%Hispanic:12%Black:9%Hawaiian:<1%
Harvard 53 Princeton 2 MIT 5
Total 60
Rank 7
PRINCETON HIGH SCHOOL PRINCETON, NJ
Class Size:359Free/Reduced Lunch:9%Student/Teacher Ratio:12/1 White:60%Asian:21%Hispanic:8%Black:5%American Indian:<1%
Harvard 5 Princeton 46 MIT 6
Total 57
Rank 8
BERGEN COUNTY ACADEMIES HACKENSACK, NJ
Class Size:271Free/Reduced Lunch:5%Student/Teacher Ratio:11/1 Asian:50%White:38%Hispanic:6%Black:1%Hawaiian:<1%
Harvard 5 Princeton 30 MIT 13
Total 48
Rank 9
DEERFIELD ACADEMY DEERFIELD, MA
Boarding Tuition:$58,050Day Tuition:$41,610Financial Aid:Yes
Harvard 19 Princeton 20 MIT 4
Total 43
Rank 10
LEXINGTON HIGH SCHOOL LEXINGTON, MA
Class Size:489Free/Reduced Lunch:8%Student/Teacher Ratio:13/1 White:56%Asian:31%Black:5%Hispanic:4%American Indian:<1%
Harvard 18 Princeton 3 MIT 17
Total 38
Rank 11
HARVARD-WESTLAKE SCHOOL STUDIO CITY, CA
Class Size:286Student/Teacher Ratio:8/1Day Tuition:$37,100Financial Aid:Yes White:56%Asian:21%Hispanic:8%Black:8%American Indian:1%
Harvard 16 Princeton 15 MIT 6
Total 37
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Anonymous wrote:But that is the average FULL professor and there are more of the others. The others do not make that much.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:That used to be the case (and not just Harvard- many Universities in the area), but most profs are priced of out Lexington now.Anonymous wrote:I am surprised there are boarding schools on this list, but they are more academic than people give them credit for. A lot of Harvard professors who live in Lexington same with Princeton high.
The average full professor at Harvard makes 200,000 and often has additional income from consulting gigs. Also many have spouses that are lawyers and doctors.
https://www.businessinsider.com/harvard-has-highest-paid-professors-2012-4
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:They only confuse Harvard Princeton and MIT??? This is so dumb. (It’s also a huge east coat bias by not using Stanford and/or caltech.) The problem is that by having such a small number there are a of weird swings and lack of differentiation. I pulled up my whole state and basically all the good schools had 2-3 admits to those 3 schools, so the difference between first in the state and 15th in the state was one kid.
Also it would be nice to know how many of the Harvard and Princeton were athletic recruits.
From TJ, I don’t think any since 2015. They only have 5-6 a year. And recently a kid was an MIT recruit. But I haven’t seen any Harvard or Princeton.
And for people griping, realize almost all of the TJ admits are completely unhooked. 95% of TJ is white or Asian, it’s 1% FARMS and it’s mostly first. Gen. Americans. Very few legacies. Stuy kids do have demographics working for them. Exeter and the other boarding schools have legacies.
Anonymous wrote:I didn’t say TJ isn’t strong but it’s not better than a top private and it’s light years away from a good boarding.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:They only confuse Harvard Princeton and MIT??? This is so dumb. (It’s also a huge east coat bias by not using Stanford and/or caltech.) The problem is that by having such a small number there are a of weird swings and lack of differentiation. I pulled up my whole state and basically all the good schools had 2-3 admits to those 3 schools, so the difference between first in the state and 15th in the state was one kid.
Also it would be nice to know how many of the Harvard and Princeton were athletic recruits.