Anonymous
Post 08/12/2019 16:42     Subject: Is cub/Boy Scouts considered dorky?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Past elementary school, absolutely.

I'm a MS teacher and I wish more parents would MAKE their kids conform and be like the masses. There's plenty of time to be an individual after age 18. Until then, those are the most important formative years and it hurts me so much to see or hear about a kid being teased for being different. Of course, teaching tolerance is also very important. If I have to contact a parent about their child being a bully more than once, I seriously look down on that person as a parent. Once, eh, kids can have bad days and be little sh!ts. But twice or three times? Nope, that's on you, mom & dad - you're raising terrible offspring.

Examples I'm talking about when I say conforming: 6th grade boys NOT walking the halls with cartoon/superhero character lunchboxes or backpacks. Sixth grade girls not wearing unicorns or other clothes that look like they came from Justice. Not dressing your son like a mini accountant or your daughter like the female offspring of a political family.


WTAF does any of this have to do with scouting?? I'm not even sure I understand what you're trying to say here.


Apparently, parents should make their kids quit scouting so as to conform to what "the masses" do, regardless of the kids' interests, because they will get made fun of. That way, kids can learn tolerance or something, and they can magically be themselves when they turn 18.
Anonymous
Post 08/12/2019 14:43     Subject: Is cub/Boy Scouts considered dorky?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:To answer the original question: Not to universities who are seeking Eagle Scouts.


BINGO! If you can get your child to stick with it through HS, they will reap the benefits. Not all kids retain that level of interest, though.

Along the same line, I will admit that my rising 3rd grader who made AAP will be in a homeroom class with a lot of his den-mates; there seems to be an uncanny correlation.



I truly believe that Eagle Scout was what got DS into UVA, along with four of his friends. Universities are looking for self-starters who can take care of themselves and others. Who have demonstrable leadership capabilities? Eagle Scout indicates this. Universities really don't want snowflakes who will create problems for them. Eagle Scout (I've heard) is an auto "in" at the U.C. Cal system (providing you have all the other necessary stats in terms of GPA and scores).
Anonymous
Post 08/12/2019 14:41     Subject: Is cub/Boy Scouts considered dorky?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Past elementary school, absolutely.

I'm a MS teacher and I wish more parents would MAKE their kids conform and be like the masses. There's plenty of time to be an individual after age 18. Until then, those are the most important formative years and it hurts me so much to see or hear about a kid being teased for being different. Of course, teaching tolerance is also very important. If I have to contact a parent about their child being a bully more than once, I seriously look down on that person as a parent. Once, eh, kids can have bad days and be little sh!ts. But twice or three times? Nope, that's on you, mom & dad - you're raising terrible offspring.

Examples I'm talking about when I say conforming: 6th grade boys NOT walking the halls with cartoon/superhero character lunchboxes or backpacks. Sixth grade girls not wearing unicorns or other clothes that look like they came from Justice. Not dressing your son like a mini accountant or your daughter like the female offspring of a political family.


I’m just confused about what you want kids to do. So you DON’T think kids should still like unicorns, cartoons, and superheroes in 6th grade? But also you don’t want boys to look like mini accountants? What is appropriate 6th grade attire, in your opinion?


Also confused. I’m not sure what she considers conforming/not conforming.
Anonymous
Post 08/12/2019 14:36     Subject: Is cub/Boy Scouts considered dorky?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Past elementary school, absolutely.

I'm a MS teacher and I wish more parents would MAKE their kids conform and be like the masses. There's plenty of time to be an individual after age 18. Until then, those are the most important formative years and it hurts me so much to see or hear about a kid being teased for being different. Of course, teaching tolerance is also very important. If I have to contact a parent about their child being a bully more than once, I seriously look down on that person as a parent. Once, eh, kids can have bad days and be little sh!ts. But twice or three times? Nope, that's on you, mom & dad - you're raising terrible offspring.

Examples I'm talking about when I say conforming: 6th grade boys NOT walking the halls with cartoon/superhero character lunchboxes or backpacks. Sixth grade girls not wearing unicorns or other clothes that look like they came from Justice. Not dressing your son like a mini accountant or your daughter like the female offspring of a political family.


I have a hard time believing you think teaching tolerance is important when the rest of your post is about making kids walk a very specific line. If a kid CAN'T conform because of skin color or religious beliefs, how do you expect kids to tolerate that when according to you they need not tolerate anything smaller like not having the latest backpack or clothing?


Or can't conform because of disabilities - visible or invisible. Please let this line of thinking die.
Anonymous
Post 08/12/2019 14:00     Subject: Is cub/Boy Scouts considered dorky?
Anonymous wrote:To answer the original question: Not to universities who are seeking Eagle Scouts.


BINGO! If you can get your child to stick with it through HS, they will reap the benefits. Not all kids retain that level of interest, though.

Along the same line, I will admit that my rising 3rd grader who made AAP will be in a homeroom class with a lot of his den-mates; there seems to be an uncanny correlation.
Anonymous
Post 08/12/2019 13:57     Subject: Re:Is cub/Boy Scouts considered dorky?
Anonymous wrote:Its a great peer group for your child and teaches some great life lessons. I can see as your child gets older that some may not be into it as much anymore, which is fine. It also tends to interfere with sports schedules.


I think this is a major reason for kids dropping out of Cub Scouts and not joining Scouting. Scout Troops can be very time consuming if you are really interested in earning rank.

Eagle Scouts tend to be sought after by colleges and companies because the commitment to earning that rank shows a level of determination and perseverance.
Anonymous
Post 08/12/2019 13:52     Subject: Is cub/Boy Scouts considered dorky?
To answer the original question: Not to universities who are seeking Eagle Scouts.
Anonymous
Post 08/12/2019 13:51     Subject: Is cub/Boy Scouts considered dorky?
Anonymous wrote:Past elementary school, absolutely.

I'm a MS teacher and I wish more parents would MAKE their kids conform and be like the masses. There's plenty of time to be an individual after age 18. Until then, those are the most important formative years and it hurts me so much to see or hear about a kid being teased for being different. Of course, teaching tolerance is also very important. If I have to contact a parent about their child being a bully more than once, I seriously look down on that person as a parent. Once, eh, kids can have bad days and be little sh!ts. But twice or three times? Nope, that's on you, mom & dad - you're raising terrible offspring.

Examples I'm talking about when I say conforming: 6th grade boys NOT walking the halls with cartoon/superhero character lunchboxes or backpacks. Sixth grade girls not wearing unicorns or other clothes that look like they came from Justice. Not dressing your son like a mini accountant or your daughter like the female offspring of a political family.


WTAF does any of this have to do with scouting?? I'm not even sure I understand what you're trying to say here.
Anonymous
Post 08/12/2019 13:47     Subject: Re:Is cub/Boy Scouts considered dorky?
Its a great peer group for your child and teaches some great life lessons. I can see as your child gets older that some may not be into it as much anymore, which is fine. It also tends to interfere with sports schedules.
Anonymous
Post 08/12/2019 13:27     Subject: Is cub/Boy Scouts considered dorky?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Past elementary school, absolutely.

I'm a MS teacher and I wish more parents would MAKE their kids conform and be like the masses. There's plenty of time to be an individual after age 18. Until then, those are the most important formative years and it hurts me so much to see or hear about a kid being teased for being different. Of course, teaching tolerance is also very important. If I have to contact a parent about their child being a bully more than once, I seriously look down on that person as a parent. Once, eh, kids can have bad days and be little sh!ts. But twice or three times? Nope, that's on you, mom & dad - you're raising terrible offspring.

Examples I'm talking about when I say conforming: 6th grade boys NOT walking the halls with cartoon/superhero character lunchboxes or backpacks. Sixth grade girls not wearing unicorns or other clothes that look like they came from Justice. Not dressing your son like a mini accountant or your daughter like the female offspring of a political family.


I’m just confused about what you want kids to do. So you DON’T think kids should still like unicorns, cartoons, and superheroes in 6th grade? But also you don’t want boys to look like mini accountants? What is appropriate 6th grade attire, in your opinion?


And you look down on a parent if you have to contact them more than once about bullying? So you totally blame parents for kids' behavior (even in MS)?

Anonymous
Post 08/12/2019 13:26     Subject: Is cub/Boy Scouts considered dorky?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Dorky is good.


+1



no, it's not.
Anonymous
Post 08/12/2019 13:23     Subject: Is cub/Boy Scouts considered dorky?
I know teen boys who still enjoy Boy Scouts and they're at the Eagle Scout level. They're all great people with some unique skills. They could survive in the wilderness if they had to, for example. I think it's a great program.
Anonymous
Post 08/12/2019 13:18     Subject: Re:Is cub/Boy Scouts considered dorky?
I think it changes based on the school. My kid LOVES adventure and outdoor activities. I can't seem to find another group that will do that on a routine basis.


Remember dorks make more money in the long run.
Anonymous
Post 08/12/2019 13:18     Subject: Is cub/Boy Scouts considered dorky?
Anonymous wrote:Past elementary school, absolutely.

I'm a MS teacher and I wish more parents would MAKE their kids conform and be like the masses. There's plenty of time to be an individual after age 18. Until then, those are the most important formative years and it hurts me so much to see or hear about a kid being teased for being different. Of course, teaching tolerance is also very important. If I have to contact a parent about their child being a bully more than once, I seriously look down on that person as a parent. Once, eh, kids can have bad days and be little sh!ts. But twice or three times? Nope, that's on you, mom & dad - you're raising terrible offspring.

Examples I'm talking about when I say conforming: 6th grade boys NOT walking the halls with cartoon/superhero character lunchboxes or backpacks. Sixth grade girls not wearing unicorns or other clothes that look like they came from Justice. Not dressing your son like a mini accountant or your daughter like the female offspring of a political family.


How are kids supposed to learn tolerance if parents do as you suggest and ensure that their kids conform to the standards of the bullies?

And you know what else hurts besides teasing? Having your parents tell you that you need to hide your interests and preferences because someone might make fun of them. Not meeting people who share your interests and with whom you could be friends because you're all dressing and acting like the "normal" kids, trying to blend in.

You are a shit teacher and I hope my kid doesn't have you.
Anonymous
Post 08/12/2019 13:09     Subject: Is cub/Boy Scouts considered dorky?
Anonymous wrote:Past elementary school, absolutely.

I'm a MS teacher and I wish more parents would MAKE their kids conform and be like the masses. There's plenty of time to be an individual after age 18. Until then, those are the most important formative years and it hurts me so much to see or hear about a kid being teased for being different. Of course, teaching tolerance is also very important. If I have to contact a parent about their child being a bully more than once, I seriously look down on that person as a parent. Once, eh, kids can have bad days and be little sh!ts. But twice or three times? Nope, that's on you, mom & dad - you're raising terrible offspring.

Examples I'm talking about when I say conforming: 6th grade boys NOT walking the halls with cartoon/superhero character lunchboxes or backpacks. Sixth grade girls not wearing unicorns or other clothes that look like they came from Justice. Not dressing your son like a mini accountant or your daughter like the female offspring of a political family.


I’m just confused about what you want kids to do. So you DON’T think kids should still like unicorns, cartoons, and superheroes in 6th grade? But also you don’t want boys to look like mini accountants? What is appropriate 6th grade attire, in your opinion?