jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:So what would the appropriate response have been here? Allow him to stay? He has a criminal record. Are criminals now exempt from laws too?
The appropriate response with all the Iraqis in this country who are not violent criminals would be to offer them temporary protected status. Anyone brought here as a child who has grown up here like this man should be offered a path to citizenship.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:So what would the appropriate response have been here? Allow him to stay? He has a criminal record. Are criminals now exempt from laws too?
The appropriate response with all the Iraqis in this country who are not violent criminals would be to offer them temporary protected status. Anyone brought here as a child who has grown up here like this man should be offered a path to citizenship.
He was here illegally, and he's been committing crimes since 1998, when he was 13 or 14. Why should we offer him a path to citizenship?
Because Iraq.
What dies that mean? You'd think that an adult, knowing he is here illegally, would not draw more attention to himself by committing crimes against Americans. It said he's now 34, and his. Rimes date back 21 years - to 1998. So he was a criminal beginning at age 13. Why would we want to make someone like that a citizen!
We would want to make him a citizen because we are a humane country (or so we tell ourselves). He did not choose to come to this country, but was brought as a child. Leaving him without status is not a solution. Deporting him to his death is inhumane.
Sorry, he didn't choose to come him as a child, but he chose to commit crimes against Americans going back for 20 years. Why are you ignoring that he's a low-life criminal? He does not deserve citizenship.
Illegal aliens should be GRATEFUL to the country that allows them to remain here, and not give Americans the middle finger by committing crimes against them. They commit crimes....out they go.
He's dead. Quite foreseeably. That means that we knew it, decided not to prevent it.
Whether you think it's right to deport him or wrong, we are the cause of his death.
DP
No. It was not foreseeable. Maybe, possibly, the diabetes was the cause of his death. Or maybe it was his mental illness. The article says he was schizophrenic.
The US did not cause this man’s death. He was here illegally, committed crimes while he was here and needed to go.
PP here. I'm sorry that so much of our immigration rules are shocking to you. I'm sorry but not surprised.
To some extent, we try (used to try) to not be inhumane, to not send people to their deaths.
Can you explain what you think is shocking to me? I didn’t say I was shocked by anything. You must have me confused with someone else.
You seem to think that sending a diabetic schizophrenic to his death is business as usual for our immigration system. It's actually not.
He was not sent to his death as you so dramatically want to make everyone believe. He was told to leave the country because he was here illegally and he had committed crimes. What happens after that has nothing to do with Trump.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:So what would the appropriate response have been here? Allow him to stay? He has a criminal record. Are criminals now exempt from laws too?
The appropriate response with all the Iraqis in this country who are not violent criminals would be to offer them temporary protected status. Anyone brought here as a child who has grown up here like this man should be offered a path to citizenship.
He was here illegally, and he's been committing crimes since 1998, when he was 13 or 14. Why should we offer him a path to citizenship?
Because Iraq.
What dies that mean? You'd think that an adult, knowing he is here illegally, would not draw more attention to himself by committing crimes against Americans. It said he's now 34, and his. Rimes date back 21 years - to 1998. So he was a criminal beginning at age 13. Why would we want to make someone like that a citizen!
We would want to make him a citizen because we are a humane country (or so we tell ourselves). He did not choose to come to this country, but was brought as a child. Leaving him without status is not a solution. Deporting him to his death is inhumane.
Sorry, he didn't choose to come him as a child, but he chose to commit crimes against Americans going back for 20 years. Why are you ignoring that he's a low-life criminal? He does not deserve citizenship.
Illegal aliens should be GRATEFUL to the country that allows them to remain here, and not give Americans the middle finger by committing crimes against them. They commit crimes....out they go.
He's dead. Quite foreseeably. That means that we knew it, decided not to prevent it.
Whether you think it's right to deport him or wrong, we are the cause of his death.
DP
No. It was not foreseeable. Maybe, possibly, the diabetes was the cause of his death. Or maybe it was his mental illness. The article says he was schizophrenic.
The US did not cause this man’s death. He was here illegally, committed crimes while he was here and needed to go.
PP here. I'm sorry that so much of our immigration rules are shocking to you. I'm sorry but not surprised.
To some extent, we try (used to try) to not be inhumane, to not send people to their deaths.
Can you explain what you think is shocking to me? I didn’t say I was shocked by anything. You must have me confused with someone else.
You seem to think that sending a diabetic schizophrenic to his death is business as usual for our immigration system. It's actually not.
Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:So what would the appropriate response have been here? Allow him to stay? He has a criminal record. Are criminals now exempt from laws too?
The appropriate response with all the Iraqis in this country who are not violent criminals would be to offer them temporary protected status. Anyone brought here as a child who has grown up here like this man should be offered a path to citizenship.
He had a path, he chose to ignore it.
jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:So what would the appropriate response have been here? Allow him to stay? He has a criminal record. Are criminals now exempt from laws too?
The appropriate response with all the Iraqis in this country who are not violent criminals would be to offer them temporary protected status. Anyone brought here as a child who has grown up here like this man should be offered a path to citizenship.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:So what would the appropriate response have been here? Allow him to stay? He has a criminal record. Are criminals now exempt from laws too?
The appropriate response with all the Iraqis in this country who are not violent criminals would be to offer them temporary protected status. Anyone brought here as a child who has grown up here like this man should be offered a path to citizenship.
He was here illegally, and he's been committing crimes since 1998, when he was 13 or 14. Why should we offer him a path to citizenship?
Because Iraq.
What dies that mean? You'd think that an adult, knowing he is here illegally, would not draw more attention to himself by committing crimes against Americans. It said he's now 34, and his. Rimes date back 21 years - to 1998. So he was a criminal beginning at age 13. Why would we want to make someone like that a citizen!
We would want to make him a citizen because we are a humane country (or so we tell ourselves). He did not choose to come to this country, but was brought as a child. Leaving him without status is not a solution. Deporting him to his death is inhumane.
Sorry, he didn't choose to come him as a child, but he chose to commit crimes against Americans going back for 20 years. Why are you ignoring that he's a low-life criminal? He does not deserve citizenship.
Illegal aliens should be GRATEFUL to the country that allows them to remain here, and not give Americans the middle finger by committing crimes against them. They commit crimes....out they go.
He's dead. Quite foreseeably. That means that we knew it, decided not to prevent it.
Whether you think it's right to deport him or wrong, we are the cause of his death.
DP
No. It was not foreseeable. Maybe, possibly, the diabetes was the cause of his death. Or maybe it was his mental illness. The article says he was schizophrenic.
The US did not cause this man’s death. He was here illegally, committed crimes while he was here and needed to go.
PP here. I'm sorry that so much of our immigration rules are shocking to you. I'm sorry but not surprised.
To some extent, we try (used to try) to not be inhumane, to not send people to their deaths.
Can you explain what you think is shocking to me? I didn’t say I was shocked by anything. You must have me confused with someone else.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:So what would the appropriate response have been here? Allow him to stay? He has a criminal record. Are criminals now exempt from laws too?
The appropriate response with all the Iraqis in this country who are not violent criminals would be to offer them temporary protected status. Anyone brought here as a child who has grown up here like this man should be offered a path to citizenship.
He was here illegally, and he's been committing crimes since 1998, when he was 13 or 14. Why should we offer him a path to citizenship?
Because Iraq.
What dies that mean? You'd think that an adult, knowing he is here illegally, would not draw more attention to himself by committing crimes against Americans. It said he's now 34, and his. Rimes date back 21 years - to 1998. So he was a criminal beginning at age 13. Why would we want to make someone like that a citizen!
We would want to make him a citizen because we are a humane country (or so we tell ourselves). He did not choose to come to this country, but was brought as a child. Leaving him without status is not a solution. Deporting him to his death is inhumane.
Sorry, he didn't choose to come him as a child, but he chose to commit crimes against Americans going back for 20 years. Why are you ignoring that he's a low-life criminal? He does not deserve citizenship.
Illegal aliens should be GRATEFUL to the country that allows them to remain here, and not give Americans the middle finger by committing crimes against them. They commit crimes....out they go.
He's dead. Quite foreseeably. That means that we knew it, decided not to prevent it.
Whether you think it's right to deport him or wrong, we are the cause of his death.
DP
No. It was not foreseeable. Maybe, possibly, the diabetes was the cause of his death. Or maybe it was his mental illness. The article says he was schizophrenic.
The US did not cause this man’s death. He was here illegally, committed crimes while he was here and needed to go.
PP here. I'm sorry that so much of our immigration rules are shocking to you. I'm sorry but not surprised.
To some extent, we try (used to try) to not be inhumane, to not send people to their deaths.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:So what would the appropriate response have been here? Allow him to stay? He has a criminal record. Are criminals now exempt from laws too?
The appropriate response with all the Iraqis in this country who are not violent criminals would be to offer them temporary protected status. Anyone brought here as a child who has grown up here like this man should be offered a path to citizenship.
He was here illegally, and he's been committing crimes since 1998, when he was 13 or 14. Why should we offer him a path to citizenship?
Because Iraq.
What dies that mean? You'd think that an adult, knowing he is here illegally, would not draw more attention to himself by committing crimes against Americans. It said he's now 34, and his. Rimes date back 21 years - to 1998. So he was a criminal beginning at age 13. Why would we want to make someone like that a citizen!
Petty crimes. I think you have an overly rosy view of immigrants and citizens. And Iraq.
So the reward for coming here illegally and committing ‘petty’ crimes is to get citizenship?
The issue of whether someone can or cannot obtain insulin is not something to blame on Trump. How is that Trump’s fault?? Over the top to lay blame there.
Medical care is one reason that we allow illegal people to stay.
That must be shocking to you.
How many people from around the world would you like to cure?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:So what would the appropriate response have been here? Allow him to stay? He has a criminal record. Are criminals now exempt from laws too?
The appropriate response with all the Iraqis in this country who are not violent criminals would be to offer them temporary protected status. Anyone brought here as a child who has grown up here like this man should be offered a path to citizenship.
He was here illegally, and he's been committing crimes since 1998, when he was 13 or 14. Why should we offer him a path to citizenship?
Because Iraq.
What dies that mean? You'd think that an adult, knowing he is here illegally, would not draw more attention to himself by committing crimes against Americans. It said he's now 34, and his. Rimes date back 21 years - to 1998. So he was a criminal beginning at age 13. Why would we want to make someone like that a citizen!
We would want to make him a citizen because we are a humane country (or so we tell ourselves). He did not choose to come to this country, but was brought as a child. Leaving him without status is not a solution. Deporting him to his death is inhumane.
Sorry, he didn't choose to come him as a child, but he chose to commit crimes against Americans going back for 20 years. Why are you ignoring that he's a low-life criminal? He does not deserve citizenship.
Illegal aliens should be GRATEFUL to the country that allows them to remain here, and not give Americans the middle finger by committing crimes against them. They commit crimes....out they go.
He's dead. Quite foreseeably. That means that we knew it, decided not to prevent it.
Whether you think it's right to deport him or wrong, we are the cause of his death.
DP
No. It was not foreseeable. Maybe, possibly, the diabetes was the cause of his death. Or maybe it was his mental illness. The article says he was schizophrenic.
The US did not cause this man’s death. He was here illegally, committed crimes while he was here and needed to go.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:So what would the appropriate response have been here? Allow him to stay? He has a criminal record. Are criminals now exempt from laws too?
The appropriate response with all the Iraqis in this country who are not violent criminals would be to offer them temporary protected status. Anyone brought here as a child who has grown up here like this man should be offered a path to citizenship.
He was here illegally, and he's been committing crimes since 1998, when he was 13 or 14. Why should we offer him a path to citizenship?
Because Iraq.
What dies that mean? You'd think that an adult, knowing he is here illegally, would not draw more attention to himself by committing crimes against Americans. It said he's now 34, and his. Rimes date back 21 years - to 1998. So he was a criminal beginning at age 13. Why would we want to make someone like that a citizen!
We would want to make him a citizen because we are a humane country (or so we tell ourselves). He did not choose to come to this country, but was brought as a child. Leaving him without status is not a solution. Deporting him to his death is inhumane.
Sorry, he didn't choose to come him as a child, but he chose to commit crimes against Americans going back for 20 years. Why are you ignoring that he's a low-life criminal? He does not deserve citizenship.
Illegal aliens should be GRATEFUL to the country that allows them to remain here, and not give Americans the middle finger by committing crimes against them. They commit crimes....out they go.
He's dead. Quite foreseeably. That means that we knew it, decided not to prevent it.
Whether you think it's right to deport him or wrong, we are the cause of his death.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:So what would the appropriate response have been here? Allow him to stay? He has a criminal record. Are criminals now exempt from laws too?
The appropriate response with all the Iraqis in this country who are not violent criminals would be to offer them temporary protected status. Anyone brought here as a child who has grown up here like this man should be offered a path to citizenship.
He was here illegally, and he's been committing crimes since 1998, when he was 13 or 14. Why should we offer him a path to citizenship?
Because Iraq.
What dies that mean? You'd think that an adult, knowing he is here illegally, would not draw more attention to himself by committing crimes against Americans. It said he's now 34, and his. Rimes date back 21 years - to 1998. So he was a criminal beginning at age 13. Why would we want to make someone like that a citizen!
Petty crimes. I think you have an overly rosy view of immigrants and citizens. And Iraq.
So the reward for coming here illegally and committing ‘petty’ crimes is to get citizenship?
The issue of whether someone can or cannot obtain insulin is not something to blame on Trump. How is that Trump’s fault?? Over the top to lay blame there.
Medical care is one reason that we allow illegal people to stay.
That must be shocking to you.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:So what would the appropriate response have been here? Allow him to stay? He has a criminal record. Are criminals now exempt from laws too?
The appropriate response with all the Iraqis in this country who are not violent criminals would be to offer them temporary protected status. Anyone brought here as a child who has grown up here like this man should be offered a path to citizenship.
He was here illegally, and he's been committing crimes since 1998, when he was 13 or 14. Why should we offer him a path to citizenship?
Because Iraq.
What dies that mean? You'd think that an adult, knowing he is here illegally, would not draw more attention to himself by committing crimes against Americans. It said he's now 34, and his. Rimes date back 21 years - to 1998. So he was a criminal beginning at age 13. Why would we want to make someone like that a citizen!
Petty crimes. I think you have an overly rosy view of immigrants and citizens. And Iraq.
So the reward for coming here illegally and committing ‘petty’ crimes is to get citizenship?
The issue of whether someone can or cannot obtain insulin is not something to blame on Trump. How is that Trump’s fault?? Over the top to lay blame there.
Medical care is one reason that we allow illegal people to stay.
That must be shocking to you.
Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:So what would the appropriate response have been here? Allow him to stay? He has a criminal record. Are criminals now exempt from laws too?
The appropriate response with all the Iraqis in this country who are not violent criminals would be to offer them temporary protected status. Anyone brought here as a child who has grown up here like this man should be offered a path to citizenship.
He was here illegally, and he's been committing crimes since 1998, when he was 13 or 14. Why should we offer him a path to citizenship?
Because Iraq.
What dies that mean? You'd think that an adult, knowing he is here illegally, would not draw more attention to himself by committing crimes against Americans. It said he's now 34, and his. Rimes date back 21 years - to 1998. So he was a criminal beginning at age 13. Why would we want to make someone like that a citizen!
We would want to make him a citizen because we are a humane country (or so we tell ourselves). He did not choose to come to this country, but was brought as a child. Leaving him without status is not a solution. Deporting him to his death is inhumane.
Sorry, he didn't choose to come him as a child, but he chose to commit crimes against Americans going back for 20 years. Why are you ignoring that he's a low-life criminal? He does not deserve citizenship.
Illegal aliens should be GRATEFUL to the country that allows them to remain here, and not give Americans the middle finger by committing crimes against them. They commit crimes....out they go.
jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:So what would the appropriate response have been here? Allow him to stay? He has a criminal record. Are criminals now exempt from laws too?
The appropriate response with all the Iraqis in this country who are not violent criminals would be to offer them temporary protected status. Anyone brought here as a child who has grown up here like this man should be offered a path to citizenship.
He was here illegally, and he's been committing crimes since 1998, when he was 13 or 14. Why should we offer him a path to citizenship?
Because Iraq.
What dies that mean? You'd think that an adult, knowing he is here illegally, would not draw more attention to himself by committing crimes against Americans. It said he's now 34, and his. Rimes date back 21 years - to 1998. So he was a criminal beginning at age 13. Why would we want to make someone like that a citizen!
We would want to make him a citizen because we are a humane country (or so we tell ourselves). He did not choose to come to this country, but was brought as a child. Leaving him without status is not a solution. Deporting him to his death is inhumane.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:So what would the appropriate response have been here? Allow him to stay? He has a criminal record. Are criminals now exempt from laws too?
The appropriate response with all the Iraqis in this country who are not violent criminals would be to offer them temporary protected status. Anyone brought here as a child who has grown up here like this man should be offered a path to citizenship.
He was here illegally, and he's been committing crimes since 1998, when he was 13 or 14. Why should we offer him a path to citizenship?
Because Iraq.
What dies that mean? You'd think that an adult, knowing he is here illegally, would not draw more attention to himself by committing crimes against Americans. It said he's now 34, and his. Rimes date back 21 years - to 1998. So he was a criminal beginning at age 13. Why would we want to make someone like that a citizen!
Petty crimes. I think you have an overly rosy view of immigrants and citizens. And Iraq.
So the reward for coming here illegally and committing ‘petty’ crimes is to get citizenship?
The issue of whether someone can or cannot obtain insulin is not something to blame on Trump. How is that Trump’s fault?? Over the top to lay blame there.