Anonymous
Post 08/08/2019 09:47     Subject: is there hope for a dog once it bites and shows aggression?
Anonymous wrote:A pet behaviorist will help, because there is a lot you are doing wrong. And yes, there is hope.

If your dog is anxious, it should not be at a family gathering around a lot of people she doesn't know outside her home. Why take her?

She should be separated and not allowed to roam or chase people when the repair man is there. Tether her to you, crate, or put in her own room.

She needs door training and leash training.

You have an anxious dog and her aggression is not her destiny.

But you keep putting her in situations that bring out her worst. Almost setting her up to fail.

Get help immediately.


This poster is right, however strict training and situational avoidance will take hard work and advance planning, which it sounds you're not prepared to do.
If you cannot do that, there will be another bite and this time it might be fatal to either the human or the dog (euthanasia).

Either you step up or you humanely let her go.
Anonymous
Post 08/07/2019 16:23     Subject: is there hope for a dog once it bites and shows aggression?
^I will add that the first step is to control your dog's environment better. Crown reduction would only mitigate the damage done by a bite.

Talk to your dog's vet.
Anonymous
Post 08/07/2019 16:21     Subject: is there hope for a dog once it bites and shows aggression?
Anonymous wrote:I didn't think of tooth removal, but apparently in situations where other efforts fail, it is sometimes done:

http://veterinarymedicine.dvm360.com/just-ask-expert-tooth-extraction-acceptable-treatment-aggression

"where other corrective measures have failed (including but not limited to behavior modification) the veterinarian at his/her discretion may recommend full mouth extraction,...


eh, there are methods available other than full mouth extraction.

Crown reduction of the canine teeth, for example, is way less involved than a full extraction of ALL teeth would be. Talk to your vet, Op.
Anonymous
Post 08/07/2019 16:09     Subject: is there hope for a dog once it bites and shows aggression?
I had a biting/ aggressive large Doberman. He died of natural causes but looking back the chances I took were CRAZY. As a responsible adult now I would put your dog down. You are taking so many risks with that dog. And it’s a big dog also. Shepards have a reputation for biting & aggression and this particular one has shown you it’s disposition. It’s sad but.
Anonymous
Post 08/07/2019 15:44     Subject: is there hope for a dog once it bites and shows aggression?
You were an idiot to even put your dog in that situation. You knew it would be stressful to your dog but didn’t care.
Anonymous
Post 08/07/2019 15:03     Subject: is there hope for a dog once it bites and shows aggression?
Anonymous wrote:I don’t know any story that ended well. The only difference is how many bites before the owner realized what needed to be done.

It’s awful and I am so sorry. But you have tried everything and your dog is not happy like this either.

Agree.
Anonymous
Post 08/07/2019 15:01     Subject: Re:is there hope for a dog once it bites and shows aggression?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
I had a somewhat similar incident happen with our shepherd. He was in an unusual situation that wasn't planned and that he wasn't used to--an extended family trip out of town. He was out of sight for about 2 minutes, and ended up nipping a young relative, necessitating an ER visit for a couple of stitches. I also worried he'd have to be put down, but the young relatives parents did not insist on it.


Arghh! Another one. What is with you rude people bringing your dogs to other people's homes?


PP here. We were supposed to be in a private house, away from other guests. Due to various changes instituted by relatives who were hosting, we ended up not being in a private home as planned. First time dog was in this situation, and the last.


Not a legitimate excuse. All these dog owners claiming the problem was that the host's accommodations were not sufficient to contain the dog are beyond ridiculous. Don't take your dog to other people's houses. Full stop.

Part of dog ownership is having enough money to board your dog when you travel. Do not make your dog other people's problem.


PP again. See bolded. It was not our choice--the host unexpectedly changed plans the day we got there. Nonetheless, we don't bring the dog on trips with others outside of our immediate family any more.
Anonymous
Post 08/07/2019 13:31     Subject: Re:is there hope for a dog once it bites and shows aggression?
Anonymous wrote:
I had a somewhat similar incident happen with our shepherd. He was in an unusual situation that wasn't planned and that he wasn't used to--an extended family trip out of town. He was out of sight for about 2 minutes, and ended up nipping a young relative, necessitating an ER visit for a couple of stitches. I also worried he'd have to be put down, but the young relatives parents did not insist on it.


Arghh! Another one. What is with you rude people bringing your dogs to other people's homes?


PP here. We were supposed to be in a private house, away from other guests. Due to various changes instituted by relatives who were hosting, we ended up not being in a private home as planned. First time dog was in this situation, and the last.


Not a legitimate excuse. All these dog owners claiming the problem was that the host's accommodations were not sufficient to contain the dog are beyond ridiculous. Don't take your dog to other people's houses. Full stop.

Part of dog ownership is having enough money to board your dog when you travel. Do not make your dog other people's problem.
Anonymous
Post 08/07/2019 13:23     Subject: Re:is there hope for a dog once it bites and shows aggression?
Anonymous wrote:
I had a somewhat similar incident happen with our shepherd. He was in an unusual situation that wasn't planned and that he wasn't used to--an extended family trip out of town. He was out of sight for about 2 minutes, and ended up nipping a young relative, necessitating an ER visit for a couple of stitches. I also worried he'd have to be put down, but the young relatives parents did not insist on it.


Arghh! Another one. What is with you rude people bringing your dogs to other people's homes?


PP here. We were supposed to be in a private house, away from other guests. Due to various changes instituted by relatives who were hosting, we ended up not being in a private home as planned. First time dog was in this situation, and the last.
Anonymous
Post 08/07/2019 13:21     Subject: is there hope for a dog once it bites and shows aggression?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I didn't think of tooth removal, but apparently in situations where other efforts fail, it is sometimes done:

http://veterinarymedicine.dvm360.com/just-ask-expert-tooth-extraction-acceptable-treatment-aggression

"where other corrective measures have failed (including but not limited to behavior modification) the veterinarian at his/her discretion may recommend full mouth extraction,...

That is insane. I would absolutely put my dog down before it got to that.

+1,000
You have to wonder what’s wrong with some people.
Anonymous
Post 08/07/2019 13:20     Subject: is there hope for a dog once it bites and shows aggression?
Anonymous wrote:A pet behaviorist will help, because there is a lot you are doing wrong. And yes, there is hope.

If your dog is anxious, it should not be at a family gathering around a lot of people she doesn't know outside her home. Why take her?

She should be separated and not allowed to roam or chase people when the repair man is there. Tether her to you, crate, or put in her own room.

She needs door training and leash training.

You have an anxious dog and her aggression is not her destiny.

But you keep putting her in situations that bring out her worst. Almost setting her up to fail.

Get help immediately.
Yes, I don't get why you took the dog if you knew this would be so hard on her. Sorry, OP, but that's the first thing that comes to mind.
Anonymous
Post 08/07/2019 13:19     Subject: is there hope for a dog once it bites and shows aggression?
Anonymous wrote:I didn't think of tooth removal, but apparently in situations where other efforts fail, it is sometimes done:

http://veterinarymedicine.dvm360.com/just-ask-expert-tooth-extraction-acceptable-treatment-aggression

"where other corrective measures have failed (including but not limited to behavior modification) the veterinarian at his/her discretion may recommend full mouth extraction,...

That is insane. I would absolutely put my dog down before it got to that.
Anonymous
Post 08/07/2019 12:07     Subject: is there hope for a dog once it bites and shows aggression?
I didn't think of tooth removal, but apparently in situations where other efforts fail, it is sometimes done:

http://veterinarymedicine.dvm360.com/just-ask-expert-tooth-extraction-acceptable-treatment-aggression

"where other corrective measures have failed (including but not limited to behavior modification) the veterinarian at his/her discretion may recommend full mouth extraction,...
Anonymous
Post 08/07/2019 11:55     Subject: Re:is there hope for a dog once it bites and shows aggression?
I had a somewhat similar incident happen with our shepherd. He was in an unusual situation that wasn't planned and that he wasn't used to--an extended family trip out of town. He was out of sight for about 2 minutes, and ended up nipping a young relative, necessitating an ER visit for a couple of stitches. I also worried he'd have to be put down, but the young relatives parents did not insist on it.


Arghh! Another one. What is with you rude people bringing your dogs to other people's homes?
Anonymous
Post 08/07/2019 11:37     Subject: is there hope for a dog once it bites and shows aggression?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Talk to your vet, Op. Maybe some selective tooth extraction would limit the damage done if your dog ever gets freaked out again to the point of biting.

I agree with the other posters - stop putting your dog in these uncomfortable situations. Your dog is panicking and freaking out and getting defensive because your dog is scared.


So pull the dog's teeth because it's living in the wrong environment? Wow. And I'm not even a dog person.


I would personally manage the dog's environment better to avoid these types of situations. I don't know that Op has the instincts to understand doggy language. If Op has to choose between putting the dog down and extracting some teeth, then I would think that tooth extraction would be the better option. Not ideal, but the lesser of the evils.