Anonymous
07/18/2019 10:37
Subject: Re:Colorado State: don't use American
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I have a practical question.
Scenario. I am in the grocery store. The person (who appears to be a female to me) in front of me drops a dollar bill. Before I saw this list, I would say "Ma'am, you just dropped this dollar bill." So now am I supposed to say "Person, you just dropped this dollar bill."
Because even though the person looks like a female to me, I'm supposed to use inclusive language and if I don't I'm considered non-inclusive?
Ma’am is terrible anyway. I get offended by it because I am only in my early 30s! But I also get offended by “miss” because I am a grown ass adult. So just stop saying it because it’s weird.
This says a lot about you. None of it good.
NP here. That you insist M’am is polite when most people disagree says a lot about you. Miss is also outdated. These terms won’t magically become polite because you like them.
Do you also address married women as Mrs. Husband’s first name Husband’s last name?
Maybe you’re a rude person in general?
With ma'am and Miss, I look at it as cultural. It depends where people are from. They may not be trying to be offensive.
Anonymous
07/18/2019 10:31
Subject: Re:Colorado State: don't use American
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I have a practical question.
Scenario. I am in the grocery store. The person (who appears to be a female to me) in front of me drops a dollar bill. Before I saw this list, I would say "Ma'am, you just dropped this dollar bill." So now am I supposed to say "Person, you just dropped this dollar bill."
Because even though the person looks like a female to me, I'm supposed to use inclusive language and if I don't I'm considered non-inclusive?
Ma’am is terrible anyway. I get offended by it because I am only in my early 30s! But I also get offended by “miss” because I am a grown ass adult. So just stop saying it because it’s weird.
This says a lot about you. None of it good.
NP here. That you insist M’am is polite when most people disagree says a lot about you. Miss is also outdated. These terms won’t magically become polite because you like them.
Do you also address married women as Mrs. Husband’s first name Husband’s last name?
Maybe you’re a rude person in general?
Anonymous
07/18/2019 10:21
Subject: Colorado State: don't use American
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:https://collegian.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/Inclusive-Language-Guide_10_30_18.pdf
This is another instance where I have to remind myself that, as bad as this sounds, the VAST majority of people I know in real life are not this stupid/radical left/intolerant. In fact, I can't actually think of one person I know who wouldn't call this list total BS. Still disheartening that a college would print it.
So, instead of calling someone a spaz, I'm supposed to call them a "person with spastic cerebral palsy"
I despair for this country.
I hope you are being sarcastic.
Anonymous
07/18/2019 10:21
Subject: Colorado State: don't use American
I will continue using Ma’am and Sir because they are polite terms 99.9% of the time, and the rest of the time dissenters can just deal.
I am not walking on eggshells. — Oh wait, I didn’t mean to offend the chickens.
I am not walking on eggshells. — Oh wait, I didn’t mean to offend the chickens.
Anonymous
07/18/2019 10:18
Subject: Re:Colorado State: don't use American
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I have a practical question.
Scenario. I am in the grocery store. The person (who appears to be a female to me) in front of me drops a dollar bill. Before I saw this list, I would say "Ma'am, you just dropped this dollar bill." So now am I supposed to say "Person, you just dropped this dollar bill."
Because even though the person looks like a female to me, I'm supposed to use inclusive language and if I don't I'm considered non-inclusive?
Ma’am is terrible anyway. I get offended by it because I am only in my early 30s! But I also get offended by “miss” because I am a grown ass adult. So just stop saying it because it’s weird.
+1. Ma'am if faux polite at best, and more typically snide--basically comes off as you're old and in my way.
Anonymous
07/18/2019 10:16
Subject: Re:Colorado State: don't use American
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I have a practical question.
Scenario. I am in the grocery store. The person (who appears to be a female to me) in front of me drops a dollar bill. Before I saw this list, I would say "Ma'am, you just dropped this dollar bill." So now am I supposed to say "Person, you just dropped this dollar bill."
Because even though the person looks like a female to me, I'm supposed to use inclusive language and if I don't I'm considered non-inclusive?
Ma’am is terrible anyway. I get offended by it because I am only in my early 30s! But I also get offended by “miss” because I am a grown ass adult. So just stop saying it because it’s weird.
This says a lot about you. None of it good.
Anonymous
07/18/2019 10:15
Subject: Re:Colorado State: don't use American
Anonymous wrote:I think this list is helpful. It gives you the rationalization of why some might find a term offensive and suggests reasonable alternatives.
Language and culture evolves. You're not going to be arrested or fined if you use the term, but you may cause offense you didn't intend.
This. You might care because you don't want to cause offense to another young person, or you might care because you don't want your new peers to think you are uneducated or bigoted.
Either way, this helps everyone start out on equal footing. If you read this and choose to ignore it, that's not a crime but at least you will have made an informed decision to use language some of your classmates may find offensive or hurtful.
Anonymous
07/18/2019 10:14
Subject: Re:Colorado State: don't use American
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I have a practical question.
Scenario. I am in the grocery store. The person (who appears to be a female to me) in front of me drops a dollar bill. Before I saw this list, I would say "Ma'am, you just dropped this dollar bill." So now am I supposed to say "Person, you just dropped this dollar bill."
Because even though the person looks like a female to me, I'm supposed to use inclusive language and if I don't I'm considered non-inclusive?
Ma’am is terrible anyway. I get offended by it because I am only in my early 30s! But I also get offended by “miss” because I am a grown ass adult. So just stop saying it because it’s weird.
I'm going to take long shot and guess you're offended by a lot of things in life, so it's not the word that's the problem, but you?
I don't see anything wrong with 'ma'am.' It's the polite neutral term for someone of a female persuasion. So what's the deal? Or are you just looking to be offended and will find it no matter what it is?
Anonymous
07/18/2019 10:12
Subject: Re:Colorado State: don't use American
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I have a practical question.
Scenario. I am in the grocery store. The person (who appears to be a female to me) in front of me drops a dollar bill. Before I saw this list, I would say "Ma'am, you just dropped this dollar bill." So now am I supposed to say "Person, you just dropped this dollar bill."
Because even though the person looks like a female to me, I'm supposed to use inclusive language and if I don't I'm considered non-inclusive?
Ma’am is terrible anyway. I get offended by it because I am only in my early 30s! But I also get offended by “miss” because I am a grown ass adult. So just stop saying it because it’s weird.
I agree. What's wrong with "Excuse me, you just dropped this dollar bill"?
Anonymous
07/18/2019 10:12
Subject: Re:Colorado State: don't use American
I have never met a Canadian who considered themselves "American" in any meaningful sense of the word. They were Canadians.
I can't speak for Mexicans or the Caribbean nationalities but the whole world knows Americans (as in the word alone) refers to people from the United States of America. It really does seem like a silly thing to be offended over. "North Americans" is not a real identity either, quite unlike for Europeans or Asians.
I can't speak for Mexicans or the Caribbean nationalities but the whole world knows Americans (as in the word alone) refers to people from the United States of America. It really does seem like a silly thing to be offended over. "North Americans" is not a real identity either, quite unlike for Europeans or Asians.
Anonymous
07/18/2019 10:12
Subject: Re:Colorado State: don't use American
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I have a practical question.
Scenario. I am in the grocery store. The person (who appears to be a female to me) in front of me drops a dollar bill. Before I saw this list, I would say "Ma'am, you just dropped this dollar bill." So now am I supposed to say "Person, you just dropped this dollar bill."
Because even though the person looks like a female to me, I'm supposed to use inclusive language and if I don't I'm considered non-inclusive?
Ma’am is terrible anyway. I get offended by it because I am only in my early 30s! But I also get offended by “miss” because I am a grown ass adult. So just stop saying it because it’s weird.
+1
Try, "Excuse me" or "Pardon me"
It is that easy.
Anonymous
07/18/2019 10:11
Subject: Re:Colorado State: don't use American
I think this list is helpful. It gives you the rationalization of why some might find a term offensive and suggests reasonable alternatives.
Language and culture evolves. You're not going to be arrested or fined if you use the term, but you may cause offense you didn't intend.
Language and culture evolves. You're not going to be arrested or fined if you use the term, but you may cause offense you didn't intend.
Anonymous
07/18/2019 10:09
Subject: Re:Colorado State: don't use American
Anonymous wrote:I have a practical question.
Scenario. I am in the grocery store. The person (who appears to be a female to me) in front of me drops a dollar bill. Before I saw this list, I would say "Ma'am, you just dropped this dollar bill." So now am I supposed to say "Person, you just dropped this dollar bill."
Because even though the person looks like a female to me, I'm supposed to use inclusive language and if I don't I'm considered non-inclusive?
Ma’am is terrible anyway. I get offended by it because I am only in my early 30s! But I also get offended by “miss” because I am a grown ass adult. So just stop saying it because it’s weird.
Anonymous
07/18/2019 10:06
Subject: Colorado State: don't use American
Anonymous wrote:So other American countries.. such as those of central, north, and South America...
They call us ..
“Americans” or “americanos” right?
They don’t call us “el gente de los estados unidos” or “personas de EEUU.”
Do you speak spanish or are you trying to make this up? They call us estado-unidense (plural estado-unidenses). "United stateser" is a direct translation, but that's not a word. American is the direct translation into English.
Anonymous
07/18/2019 10:04
Subject: Colorado State: don't use American
Anonymous wrote:I had no idea that there was a Colorado State. guess I assumed Boulder was the only state school.
Some of these are useful, but others are silly. I think the emphasis on language takes away from actions that really could lessen inequality.
You thought the whole state of Colorado had 1 college?