Anonymous
Post 06/27/2019 12:25     Subject: What’s wrong with open borders? (nothing, actually)

Anonymous wrote:I'm a Dem and I don't want open borders. I also want English to be the common language. A lot of moderate liberals feel this way. No way I am voting for someone who wants to just let everyone in. I'll move to Canada before I'd vote for Trump.


Canada's immigration laws are pretty tight and I hope you also speak French. You might would be able financially qualify.
Anonymous
Post 06/27/2019 12:22     Subject: What’s wrong with open borders? (nothing, actually)

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There's nothing wrong with open borders. It benefits all the poor in the world if they can escape hellish circumstances from which they have no control. It creates more opportunity in the lands they left as fewer laborers means wages must rise as business owners compete for labor.

It benefits the countries they migrate too as they pay taxes and their children pay into social programs and keep them solvent. Likewise it provides justice against colonizers who exploited the people and land which can never be forgiven.

Nations are just 20th century history and belong in the past. We are one people, one race, the Human race and open borders will help make that a reality.


Can you tell me what country has open borders? Which countries exemplify your statement?


The European Union has no borders. They freely take in millions of people who are fleeing poverty and war. As rich former colonizers, we all have an obligation to lift up those who need our help. We owe it to them for all the violence and exploitation we inflicted upon them.



HAHAHAHAH
Italy, Hungary, Bulgaria and Poland are denying immigrants. The Swiss won't take any either. And we're not Europe - false equivalence.


Bulgaria's religious leader sent a decree to all priests (I'm not sure what the Orthodox Christian Church calls their celebrants) NOT to worship with the Pope during a recent visit because of his world view. The news reports were a little less pc as I was.
Anonymous
Post 06/27/2019 12:17     Subject: What’s wrong with open borders? (nothing, actually)

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There's nothing wrong with open borders. It benefits all the poor in the world if they can escape hellish circumstances from which they have no control. It creates more opportunity in the lands they left as fewer laborers means wages must rise as business owners compete for labor.

It benefits the countries they migrate too as they pay taxes and their children pay into social programs and keep them solvent. Likewise it provides justice against colonizers who exploited the people and land which can never be forgiven.

Nations are just 20th century history and belong in the past. We are one people, one race, the Human race and open borders will help make that a reality.


Can you tell me what country has open borders? Which countries exemplify your statement?


The European Union has no borders. They freely take in millions of people who are fleeing poverty and war. As rich former colonizers, we all have an obligation to lift up those who need our help. We owe it to them for all the violence and exploitation we inflicted upon them.



HAHAHAHAH
Italy, Hungary, Bulgaria and Poland are denying immigrants. The Swiss won't take any either. And we're not Europe - false equivalence.


Exactly. Even HRC openly acknowledged the mishandling of the crisis was the reason for the rise of anti-immigrant sentiment. Jackass Elders pushed a negative until there was anarchy in France and parts of England.
Anonymous
Post 06/27/2019 12:14     Subject: What’s wrong with open borders? (nothing, actually)

Anonymous wrote:Yes. We know dems are open border. Thanks for finally being honest.


Yup. I. See. Lawsuits.
Anonymous
Post 06/27/2019 12:12     Subject: What’s wrong with open borders? (nothing, actually)

I'm a Dem and I don't want open borders. I also want English to be the common language. A lot of moderate liberals feel this way. No way I am voting for someone who wants to just let everyone in. I'll move to Canada before I'd vote for Trump.
Anonymous
Post 06/27/2019 10:05     Subject: What’s wrong with open borders? (nothing, actually)

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You're not a country if you don't have borders.
Democrats don't care.


Borders are lines on a map. They shouldn’t supersede human rights and human life. People are coming here in desperation. Most of you don’t even see them as humans.

You’re lucky to be on this side of the border rather than the southern side. And who knows, one day you may find yourself scrambling for your life and the lives of your children. Will you be so preoccupied with borders then?


I see them as humans but I am mentally capable of separating emotion from rational choices. There is much that can be done to help poor. Open borders are not a panacea. Plus, we have a lot of poor people here who will not benefit from more poor people. They matter too. God I hope you never have kids if you can’t turn off your emotions long enough to make solid choices. Kids are masters at emotional manipulation and they will eat your type alive.


+1
Anonymous
Post 06/27/2019 10:03     Subject: What’s wrong with open borders? (nothing, actually)

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There's nothing wrong with open borders. It benefits all the poor in the world if they can escape hellish circumstances from which they have no control. It creates more opportunity in the lands they left as fewer laborers means wages must rise as business owners compete for labor.

It benefits the countries they migrate too as they pay taxes and their children pay into social programs and keep them solvent. Likewise it provides justice against colonizers who exploited the people and land which can never be forgiven.

Nations are just 20th century history and belong in the past. We are one people, one race, the Human race and open borders will help make that a reality.


Can you tell me what country has open borders? Which countries exemplify your statement?


The European Union has no borders. They freely take in millions of people who are fleeing poverty and war. As rich former colonizers, we all have an obligation to lift up those who need our help. We owe it to them for all the violence and exploitation we inflicted upon them.



HAHAHAHAH
Italy, Hungary, Bulgaria and Poland are denying immigrants. The Swiss won't take any either. And we're not Europe - false equivalence.
Anonymous
Post 06/27/2019 09:54     Subject: What’s wrong with open borders? (nothing, actually)

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There's nothing wrong with open borders. It benefits all the poor in the world if they can escape hellish circumstances from which they have no control. It creates more opportunity in the lands they left as fewer laborers means wages must rise as business owners compete for labor.

It benefits the countries they migrate too as they pay taxes and their children pay into social programs and keep them solvent. Likewise it provides justice against colonizers who exploited the people and land which can never be forgiven.

Nations are just 20th century history and belong in the past. We are one people, one race, the Human race and open borders will help make that a reality.


Can you tell me what country has open borders? Which countries exemplify your statement?


The European Union has no borders. They freely take in millions of people who are fleeing poverty and war. As rich former colonizers, we all have an obligation to lift up those who need our help. We owe it to them for all the violence and exploitation we inflicted upon them.

Anonymous
Post 06/27/2019 09:40     Subject: Re:What’s wrong with open borders? (nothing, actually)



The borders are awful and must be shut down! Also, the Democrats call to abolish ICE/CPB is ridiculous.

Anonymous
Post 06/27/2019 09:35     Subject: What’s wrong with open borders? (nothing, actually)

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OMG!!! EBOLA!!!! PANIC!!!!

Shall we post some photos for you of people dying from Ebola?


That would certainly work well with the fear mongering.

Here’s what you do. Try to find pics of kids suffering from Ebola. Then photoshop hordes of them crossing the Rio Grande River. Throw in some Walking Dead extras too. That will work just fine for you.


Posting photos of people dying from Ebola is “fear mongering”?

Very odd how that works, isn’t it?
Why suddenly the photo of the two who drowned?


All photos can invoke emotions and you should think about who is sharing them and why.

It is fear mongering to post a photo of an Ebola victim when we are talking about the southern border of the US. The photo would be used to stir up irrational fears.

It is not fear mongering to post a photo of an Ebola victim when we are trying to build up support to provide aid to foreign countries suffering from outbreaks. The photo would be used to stir up compassion.

The photo of the drowned dad & child are being used to stir up compassion for people risking the dangerous journey to a new life.

Anonymous
Post 06/27/2019 09:22     Subject: What’s wrong with open borders? (nothing, actually)

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You're not a country if you don't have borders.
Democrats don't care.


Borders are lines on a map. They shouldn’t supersede human rights and human life. People are coming here in desperation. Most of you don’t even see them as humans.

You’re lucky to be on this side of the border rather than the southern side. And who knows, one day you may find yourself scrambling for your life and the lives of your children. Will you be so preoccupied with borders then?


I see them as humans but I am mentally capable of separating emotion from rational choices. There is much that can be done to help poor. Open borders are not a panacea. Plus, we have a lot of poor people here who will not benefit from more poor people. They matter too. God I hope you never have kids if you can’t turn off your emotions long enough to make solid choices. Kids are masters at emotional manipulation and they will eat your type alive.
Anonymous
Post 06/27/2019 08:57     Subject: What’s wrong with open borders? (nothing, actually)

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OMG!!! EBOLA!!!! PANIC!!!!

Shall we post some photos for you of people dying from Ebola?


That would certainly work well with the fear mongering.

Here’s what you do. Try to find pics of kids suffering from Ebola. Then photoshop hordes of them crossing the Rio Grande River. Throw in some Walking Dead extras too. That will work just fine for you.


Posting photos of people dying from Ebola is “fear mongering”?

Very odd how that works, isn’t it?
Why suddenly the photo of the two who drowned?
Anonymous
Post 06/27/2019 08:53     Subject: What’s wrong with open borders? (nothing, actually)

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OMG!!! EBOLA!!!! PANIC!!!!

Shall we post some photos for you of people dying from Ebola?


That would certainly work well with the fear mongering.

Here’s what you do. Try to find pics of kids suffering from Ebola. Then photoshop hordes of them crossing the Rio Grande River. Throw in some Walking Dead extras too. That will work just fine for you.

Anonymous
Post 06/27/2019 08:50     Subject: What’s wrong with open borders? (nothing, actually)

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There's nothing wrong with open borders. It benefits all the poor in the world if they can escape hellish circumstances from which they have no control. It creates more opportunity in the lands they left as fewer laborers means wages must rise as business owners compete for labor.

It benefits the countries they migrate too as they pay taxes and their children pay into social programs and keep them solvent. Likewise it provides justice against colonizers who exploited the people and land which can never be forgiven.

Nations are just 20th century history and belong in the past. We are one people, one race, the Human race and open borders will help make that a reality.


LOL.
Just wait until a few ISIS fighters head across the borders.
Yep - opportunity.


You’re conflating borders and security. They’re the same. Please reference 9/11. Please reference all of the countries with borders that have been penetrated by ISIS.


Part of the reason to have borders is to enforce them and to vet those coming across.
And, you do realize that reports are that iSIS has plotted to send in fighters through our southern border?

Exactly.
Anonymous
Post 06/27/2019 08:49     Subject: What’s wrong with open borders? (nothing, actually)

Anonymous wrote:OMG!!! EBOLA!!!! PANIC!!!!

Shall we post some photos for you of people dying from Ebola?