Anonymous
Post 06/26/2019 09:06     Subject: Will Montgomery County ever recover?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why are we acting like all NoVa schools are amazing lol. MCPS def wins on the school front based on sheer numbers of well performing schools. Between Fairfax, Arlington, and Alexandria City.. there are a handful of schools that perform as well as MoCo schools. Honestly if I had the choice, I’d choose MoCo schools. High performing and diverse.

I live in Arlington btw. Our HS, Wakefield is middle of the road in academics and the other HS in the county are homogeneous so it’s the best option. Einstein would be the equivalent and I’d actually prefer to send my kids there. But we work in VA so here we are.


TJ/Langley/McLean/George Mason/Madison/Woodson/Oakton/Yorktown > Whitman/Churchill/Wootton/WJ/B-CC

But the bigger difference is in the number of schools in NoVa that are solidly above-average. About 1/2 the schools in MCPS are now circling the sewer.

Wakefield is well below average for NoVa.



I don’t want above average, I want the best. There are no non-magnet schools in NoVA with a 10/10 rating like Churchill. Whitman and Wooten are better than any non-magnet school on that list as well. If you put the magnet programs at Poolesville and Blair up against TJ they are a wash. MoCo’s best 5 inbounds schools (Churchill, Wooten, B-CC, Whitman and WJ) > Fairfax’s top 5. Don’t believe me, check out GS ratings and SAT scores.
Anonymous
Post 06/26/2019 08:59     Subject: Will Montgomery County ever recover?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why are we acting like all NoVa schools are amazing lol. MCPS def wins on the school front based on sheer numbers of well performing schools. Between Fairfax, Arlington, and Alexandria City.. there are a handful of schools that perform as well as MoCo schools. Honestly if I had the choice, I’d choose MoCo schools. High performing and diverse.

I live in Arlington btw. Our HS, Wakefield is middle of the road in academics and the other HS in the county are homogeneous so it’s the best option. Einstein would be the equivalent and I’d actually prefer to send my kids there. But we work in VA so here we are.


TJ/Langley/McLean/George Mason/Madison/Woodson/Oakton/Yorktown > Whitman/Churchill/Wootton/WJ/B-CC

But the bigger difference is in the number of schools in NoVa that are solidly above-average. About 1/2 the schools in MCPS are now circling the sewer.

Wakefield is well below average for NoVa.



LOL at Yorktown, where white kids don’t score as high as their peers at Einstein on the SATs. Einstein is the Wakefield and is outperforming Yorktown whrn you break it down by demographics. Look at this thread for more info:

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/796497.page#14820470

MoCo is more diverse. When you break down SAT scores by demographic group you will see that they’re not lagging at all. Convenient that you left out Poolesville and Blair...
Anonymous
Post 06/26/2019 08:33     Subject: Will Montgomery County ever recover?
Anonymous wrote:Why are we acting like all NoVa schools are amazing lol. MCPS def wins on the school front based on sheer numbers of well performing schools. Between Fairfax, Arlington, and Alexandria City.. there are a handful of schools that perform as well as MoCo schools. Honestly if I had the choice, I’d choose MoCo schools. High performing and diverse.

I live in Arlington btw. Our HS, Wakefield is middle of the road in academics and the other HS in the county are homogeneous so it’s the best option. Einstein would be the equivalent and I’d actually prefer to send my kids there. But we work in VA so here we are.


TJ/Langley/McLean/George Mason/Madison/Woodson/Oakton/Yorktown > Whitman/Churchill/Wootton/WJ/B-CC

But the bigger difference is in the number of schools in NoVa that are solidly above-average. About 1/2 the schools in MCPS are now circling the sewer.

Wakefield is well below average for NoVa.

Anonymous
Post 06/26/2019 08:23     Subject: Will Montgomery County ever recover?
Why are we acting like all NoVa schools are amazing lol. MCPS def wins on the school front based on sheer numbers of well performing schools. Between Fairfax, Arlington, and Alexandria City.. there are a handful of schools that perform as well as MoCo schools. Honestly if I had the choice, I’d choose MoCo schools. High performing and diverse.

I live in Arlington btw. Our HS, Wakefield is middle of the road in academics and the other HS in the county are homogeneous so it’s the best option. Einstein would be the equivalent and I’d actually prefer to send my kids there. But we work in VA so here we are.
Anonymous
Post 06/26/2019 07:39     Subject: Will Montgomery County ever recover?
Anonymous wrote:Just looking at the appreciation forecasts for Arlington and Fairfax and feeling very depressed. If you had told me 15 years ago that houses would be selling for over 1M in Falls Church I would have never believed it. Our decision to move to Montgomery County over Falls Church or Arlington has probably cost us 600K-800K in lost opportunity equity. We were really on the fence at the time but thought that there was more room for appreciation in Montgomery County.

Is there any chance that things will flip around or will Montgomery County be stagnant or dropping for another 10 years?


I would take quality of life over home appreciation anytime. This is why chose to live in MoCo over NoVa. The quality of life in NoVa is horrible. I don’t want to raise my family around rednecks just because my house would appreciate by a few more bucks.
Your home is primarily a place to live. If your financial success depends on your home appreciation, you are doing it wrong and you are going to lose badly.
Remember this: Your primary home will never make you rich. A bad place to live will ruin your life and happiness.
Enjoy you happiness in one of the best places to live in the country (MoCo)
Anonymous
Post 06/26/2019 07:12     Subject: Re:Will Montgomery County ever recover?
Anonymous wrote:It’s more Virginia is playing catch-up now. Still not at the levels of lower Montgomery County.


Uh, no. NoVa left Maryland in the dust years ago. And the “lower Montgomery County” to which you refer is a relatively small enclave of uber-wealth surrounded by a swath of stagnating or declining mediocrity.
Anonymous
Post 06/26/2019 07:12     Subject: Will Montgomery County ever recover?
Anonymous wrote:Well, I disagree that Arlington doesn’t care about schools anymore. The hell they don’t. That is the reason for enormous price disparities between north and south Arlington. South Arlington is where all the low income housing is located and many schools are high poverty. Wealthy families generally avoid those areas for north Arlington where schools are excellent. Things will only get worse because of the county’s plan for massive amounts of low income housing in south Arlington over the next decade to counteract the amazon effect.

You just confirmed that Arlington is trash and going downhill down the drain.
Anonymous
Post 06/26/2019 06:57     Subject: Will Montgomery County ever recover?
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Anonymous wrote:Sadly no. I highly doubt it. Property value follows its school system. I don’t see MCPS turning back to old glory days.

Exactly. Their schools are trashed.


Sigh... yes, generally speaking, MCPS is trashed but there are still pockets of good schools left. Less and less each year.


Wow pls tell me what are the good schools left. You must have experience in mcps..


Been here 30 years, my kids were born and raised here in moco. Kids spent almost 40 years in MCPS so, yeah, I do have experience and history with moco/MCPS. You?


Same here. Now tell me what are the remaining good schools?


Sure you are. If you’ve been here 30 years and still don’t know, you are hopeless. Remember what they used to say about MCPS when you moved here 30 years ago? Think real hard. What a jacka$$.


Hey old-timer, if you're comparing MCPS to what it was like 30 years ago, then you are the jacka$$. MoCo is no longer a majority white UMC/MC area where every kid is practically the same. Perspective please. And I agree to the other PP. Major eyeroll to this entire thread.
Anonymous
Post 06/26/2019 06:41     Subject: Will Montgomery County ever recover?
Massive eyeroll to this whole thread.
Anonymous
Post 06/26/2019 06:34     Subject: Re:Will Montgomery County ever recover?
Anonymous wrote:I work in VA, lived in Moco for 14 yrs , 10 yrs as a homeowner . I had to address my commute issue, decision was Potomac or McLean, we paid a lot more in McLean but I think we made the right call for commute and decent appreciation ( only time can truly tell). I was getting tired of MCPS obsession with equality at all costs with not much regard for merit. OTOH, Moco is less congested and prettier, so there is that.


I would live in VA if worked in VA. Public schools are for the public so all kids should equally have a chance. The Magnet school approach in DC and VA is terrible for majority of kids and great for select few. But it is a public school and whole public should get a great education
Anonymous
Post 06/26/2019 01:01     Subject: Re:Will Montgomery County ever recover?
I work in VA, lived in Moco for 14 yrs , 10 yrs as a homeowner . I had to address my commute issue, decision was Potomac or McLean, we paid a lot more in McLean but I think we made the right call for commute and decent appreciation ( only time can truly tell). I was getting tired of MCPS obsession with equality at all costs with not much regard for merit. OTOH, Moco is less congested and prettier, so there is that.
Anonymous
Post 06/26/2019 00:36     Subject: Re:Will Montgomery County ever recover?
Anonymous wrote:It wouldn't be DCUM if we didn't have our weekly anti-MoCo/MCPS or anti-MD bashing threads.


It's at least every other day.
Anonymous
Post 06/26/2019 00:08     Subject: Re:Will Montgomery County ever recover?
It wouldn't be DCUM if we didn't have our weekly anti-MoCo/MCPS or anti-MD bashing threads.
Anonymous
Post 06/26/2019 00:02     Subject: Will Montgomery County ever recover?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Sadly no. I highly doubt it. Property value follows its school system. I don’t see MCPS turning back to old glory days.

Exactly. Their schools are trashed.


Sigh... yes, generally speaking, MCPS is trashed but there are still pockets of good schools left. Less and less each year.

There is only one good school in NoVa : TJ
That's it.
Anonymous
Post 06/25/2019 23:58     Subject: Will Montgomery County ever recover?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Sadly no. I highly doubt it. Property value follows its school system. I don’t see MCPS turning back to old glory days.

Exactly. Their schools are trashed.

You meant to say that MCPS trashes NoVa schools every time, right? That’s the fact.