Anonymous wrote:What was the last scene from the last episode? she asked someone to get pancakes with her?

A man in her AA/ drug meetings accused her of faking her sobriety and told her to call him when she hits rock bottom and they'd go get pancakes meaning he'd help her out or be her sponsor or something.

What was the last scene from the last episode? she asked someone to get pancakes with her?

Anonymous wrote:Isn’t teen drinking and drug use supposedly down? When I was in HS in the 90s, I did not know one person who was completely and totally alcohol free. And not many were drug-free, either.

I’m curious about your demographic...I went to high school in the 90s (LMC/MC area) and there were definitely kids who were completely clean. Some smoked cigarettes and drank on the weekends, not much weed use but a small minority were high on various stuff all day. Lots of sex though.

Got cut off. These are often the kids you might not expect FWIW. I tried to talk to parents when I first knew some stuff going on but was met with huge denial and even annoyance. I now just worry about my own child. There’s a lot going on that parents are completely clueless about. I’d also note those stats are always a few years behind. In a few years we will see, statistically, the amount of nicotine and marijuana use in teens as very high. Mark my words. The vaping has made it so easy and discreet to use both. I also think the atmosphere is very pro casual sexual activity not necessarily PIV but crazy casual oral sex. Usually performed on the male, not reciprocal.

Isn’t teen drinking and drug use supposedly down? When I was in HS in the 90s, I did not know one person who was completely and totally alcohol free. And not many were drug-free, either.

I would say it’s pretty shocking how many kids I know that are involved with drinking, sex, vaping, weed, and sometimes more. There aren’t the

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Anonymous wrote:I watched it and it didn't interest me that much. It reminded me of "Kids," set forward in time around 25 years. I didn't feel like it was saying much new or interesting.

This. And it also is soooo tired when every incarnation of this story gets told and people are up in arms about "parents need to wake up and this is what life is like for teens". Nope, for a segment yes. But not even close to the majority. Teens are actually DELAYING risky behaviors in the last few decades. We should be far more scared of the online witch hunts and bullying fodder..that's what's really going on with the majority not kids and bearing out upticks in teen suicides, depression, etc. This is very much not reality on any scale.

You’re in denial. Just last year a student at Whitman died while drunk when leaving a house party containing students underage drinking. I’ve coached teens and have been told about parties involving drugs and alcohol. In the school I coached, there were several incidents involving students having sex in the school. During a county wide coaches meeting we were told to check water bottles for alcohol. Maybe your child is sitting at home not involved but there are plenty of teens involved in this lifestyle. And there are plenty of parents who would be shocked at what their child is doing.

Plenty, yes. But statistics don't bear out your argument in a meta sense. My college roommate was sneaking vodka in water bottles to her fancy girls school in the 90s. This shit isn't new. What I'm guessing has happened is that the risky behaviors have probably become heightened and younger for those who do them, but they have declined overall. Euphoria is definitely a highly stylized, fictionalized version of reality for a minority of kids.

Believe what you want. I have had actual experience and interaction with teens. It’s easier to believe kids are innocent for your own sanity.

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Anonymous wrote:I watched it and it didn't interest me that much. It reminded me of "Kids," set forward in time around 25 years. I didn't feel like it was saying much new or interesting.

This. And it also is soooo tired when every incarnation of this story gets told and people are up in arms about "parents need to wake up and this is what life is like for teens". Nope, for a segment yes. But not even close to the majority. Teens are actually DELAYING risky behaviors in the last few decades. We should be far more scared of the online witch hunts and bullying fodder..that's what's really going on with the majority not kids and bearing out upticks in teen suicides, depression, etc. This is very much not reality on any scale.

You’re in denial. Just last year a student at Whitman died while drunk when leaving a house party containing students underage drinking. I’ve coached teens and have been told about parties involving drugs and alcohol. In the school I coached, there were several incidents involving students having sex in the school. During a county wide coaches meeting we were told to check water bottles for alcohol. Maybe your child is sitting at home not involved but there are plenty of teens involved in this lifestyle. And there are plenty of parents who would be shocked at what their child is doing.

Plenty, yes. But statistics don't bear out your argument in a meta sense. My college roommate was sneaking vodka in water bottles to her fancy girls school in the 90s. This shit isn't new. What I'm guessing has happened is that the risky behaviors have probably become heightened and younger for those who do them, but they have declined overall. Euphoria is definitely a highly stylized, fictionalized version of reality for a minority of kids.

I have a teen girl and found it so disturbing. I am not sure what shook me more the drug use, probably fueled by “what’s the big deal I am heavily medicated anyway” or the girls casual and aggressive attitude about sex as a result of watching too much porn.

I have a teen mixed up in this kind of scene. For some, it’s a lot more real than any of us would like to believe. Btw these kids I know are 90% from good, caring homes. The kids are athletes and good students. I know way more than I wish I did. And yes, a lot of parents are totally clueless or purposely looking the other way.

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Anonymous wrote:I watched it and it didn't interest me that much. It reminded me of "Kids," set forward in time around 25 years. I didn't feel like it was saying much new or interesting.

This. And it also is soooo tired when every incarnation of this story gets told and people are up in arms about "parents need to wake up and this is what life is like for teens". Nope, for a segment yes. But not even close to the majority. Teens are actually DELAYING risky behaviors in the last few decades. We should be far more scared of the online witch hunts and bullying fodder..that's what's really going on with the majority not kids and bearing out upticks in teen suicides, depression, etc. This is very much not reality on any scale.

You’re in denial. Just last year a student at Whitman died while drunk when leaving a house party containing students underage drinking. I’ve coached teens and have been told about parties involving drugs and alcohol. In the school I coached, there were several incidents involving students having sex in the school. During a county wide coaches meeting we were told to check water bottles for alcohol. Maybe your child is sitting at home not involved but there are plenty of teens involved in this lifestyle. And there are plenty of parents who would be shocked at what their child is doing.

Not the poster you’re quoting, but for every teen that relates to Euphoria there’s another that relates to the girls in Booksmart. A Partying-drinking-drugs-sex grind is not every teenager’s reality.

Of course it’s not every teens reality. But it’s a lot of teens reality.

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Anonymous wrote:I watched it and it didn't interest me that much. It reminded me of "Kids," set forward in time around 25 years. I didn't feel like it was saying much new or interesting.

This. And it also is soooo tired when every incarnation of this story gets told and people are up in arms about "parents need to wake up and this is what life is like for teens". Nope, for a segment yes. But not even close to the majority. Teens are actually DELAYING risky behaviors in the last few decades. We should be far more scared of the online witch hunts and bullying fodder..that's what's really going on with the majority not kids and bearing out upticks in teen suicides, depression, etc. This is very much not reality on any scale.

You’re in denial. Just last year a student at Whitman died while drunk when leaving a house party containing students underage drinking. I’ve coached teens and have been told about parties involving drugs and alcohol. In the school I coached, there were several incidents involving students having sex in the school. During a county wide coaches meeting we were told to check water bottles for alcohol. Maybe your child is sitting at home not involved but there are plenty of teens involved in this lifestyle. And there are plenty of parents who would be shocked at what their child is doing.

Not the poster you’re quoting, but for every teen that relates to Euphoria there’s another that relates to the girls in Booksmart. A Partying-drinking-drugs-sex grind is not every teenager’s reality.

Did you actually watch Booksmart?

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Anonymous wrote:I watched it and it didn't interest me that much. It reminded me of "Kids," set forward in time around 25 years. I didn't feel like it was saying much new or interesting.

This. And it also is soooo tired when every incarnation of this story gets told and people are up in arms about "parents need to wake up and this is what life is like for teens". Nope, for a segment yes. But not even close to the majority. Teens are actually DELAYING risky behaviors in the last few decades. We should be far more scared of the online witch hunts and bullying fodder..that's what's really going on with the majority not kids and bearing out upticks in teen suicides, depression, etc. This is very much not reality on any scale.

You’re in denial. Just last year a student at Whitman died while drunk when leaving a house party containing students underage drinking. I’ve coached teens and have been told about parties involving drugs and alcohol. In the school I coached, there were several incidents involving students having sex in the school. During a county wide coaches meeting we were told to check water bottles for alcohol. Maybe your child is sitting at home not involved but there are plenty of teens involved in this lifestyle. And there are plenty of parents who would be shocked at what their child is doing.

Not the poster you’re quoting, but for every teen that relates to Euphoria there’s another that relates to the girls in Booksmart. A Partying-drinking-drugs-sex grind is not every teenager’s reality.

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Anonymous wrote:I watched it and it didn't interest me that much. It reminded me of "Kids," set forward in time around 25 years. I didn't feel like it was saying much new or interesting.

This. And it also is soooo tired when every incarnation of this story gets told and people are up in arms about "parents need to wake up and this is what life is like for teens". Nope, for a segment yes. But not even close to the majority. Teens are actually DELAYING risky behaviors in the last few decades. We should be far more scared of the online witch hunts and bullying fodder..that's what's really going on with the majority not kids and bearing out upticks in teen suicides, depression, etc. This is very much not reality on any scale.

You’re in denial. Just last year a student at Whitman died while drunk when leaving a house party containing students underage drinking. I’ve coached teens and have been told about parties involving drugs and alcohol. In the school I coached, there were several incidents involving students having sex in the school. During a county wide coaches meeting we were told to check water bottles for alcohol. Maybe your child is sitting at home not involved but there are plenty of teens involved in this lifestyle. And there are plenty of parents who would be shocked at what their child is doing.

The world needs more prudes, then. Heavy drug use and sex is nothing but trouble for teens. I am so sick of shows and movies that glorify this and act like it is what it means to be a teen.

I don't understand why people enjoy watching teens wreck their lives.

I don't think the behavior portrayed is a good idea at all, and it is terribly risky, but it isn't necessarily "watching teens wreck their lives." The reality and the problem is that 9/10 teens who engage in the behavior won't wreck their lives - they'll regret the behavior, likely, but their lives won't be wrecked in the long run. It's just that you really don't want to be the 1/10 teens who engages in the behavior whose life is wrecked.