Anonymous wrote:Asheville, Boise and RIchmond are hot for retirees and loafers, but is any actual industry going on there?

Agree with previous posters about Detroit and Baltimore even though they sounded a little racist.

Richmond is a state capital and thus has all the benefits of the GA, state lobbyists, and state government jobs, has a huge arts industry (especially in advertising), has headquarters to several businesses including Capital One, still has Phillip Morris which manufactures many things other than cigarettes, and has a stable tourist industry. I can’t speak for the other cities.

Anonymous wrote:Pittsburgh. Carnegie Mellon graduates are attracting businesses or starting their own. The city has an increasingly youthful vibe. Cost of living is low, and public transport is decent. It is a spot of blue in a sea of red Pennsyltucky.

Pittsburgh is one of the most depressing cities I've ever been too. It's like a valley of hills and dark horizons which is quite the feat considering coal long ago left that area of PA.

Pittsburgh. Carnegie Mellon graduates are attracting businesses or starting their own. The city has an increasingly youthful vibe. Cost of living is low, and public transport is decent. It is a spot of blue in a sea of red Pennsyltucky.

Ann Arbor Michigan is a better bet than Detroit

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Anonymous wrote:LOL at everyone who named dead flyover hellholes that have eye-popping violent crime, double digit BILLIONS in infrastructure time bombs, polluted land, & eye-popping public retiree obligations.

The rich will get richer — already thriving coasts and sun belt are safest bets. Fact is nobody with talent wants to live in a cold flyover dump with high taxes and stupid people.

Can you actually name some suggestions? Sun belt is a lot of cities. Which are the thriving coasts? California is a sick and debt ridden state.

Perhaps....but it’s California.

Baltimore. I bet my life on it. The lone holdout of east coast cities that remains affordable. Already well-developed in certain areas. In ten years it will be DC circa 2005.

Anonymous wrote:LOL at everyone who named dead flyover hellholes that have eye-popping violent crime, double digit BILLIONS in infrastructure time bombs, polluted land, & eye-popping public retiree obligations.

The rich will get richer — already thriving coasts and sun belt are safest bets. Fact is nobody with talent wants to live in a cold flyover dump with high taxes and stupid people.

Can you actually name some suggestions? Sun belt is a lot of cities. Which are the thriving coasts? California is a sick and debt ridden state.

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Anonymous wrote:Asheville, Boise and RIchmond are hot for retirees and loafers, but is any actual industry going on there?

Agree with previous posters about Detroit and Baltimore even though they sounded a little racist.

Again I ask why? This is a blue collar town dominated by a declining industry.

Sorry, I meant I agree with the anti-Detroit posters, although some of them sound a bit racist, they're not wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:Asheville, Boise and RIchmond are hot for retirees and loafers, but is any actual industry going on there?

Agree with previous posters about Detroit and Baltimore even though they sounded a little racist.

Didn't Florida get the ball rolling by being a state for retirees who wanted warmth and low taxes? Florida is booming compared to what it was in the 80s.

FL also has a lot of semi-scammy companies headquartering there due to lax regulations. I worked at a company in Baltimore one time that was a bit scammy but we had an office in Florida for the really egregious stuff. Low COL also helped. Also a lot of shipping goes through Flordia, which will never be the case for Asheville.

Anonymous wrote:Asheville, Boise and RIchmond are hot for retirees and loafers, but is any actual industry going on there?

Agree with previous posters about Detroit and Baltimore even though they sounded a little racist.

Didn't Florida get the ball rolling by being a state for retirees who wanted warmth and low taxes? Florida is booming compared to what it was in the 80s.

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Anonymous wrote:LOL at everyone who named dead flyover hellholes that have eye-popping violent crime, double digit BILLIONS in infrastructure time bombs, polluted land, & eye-popping public retiree obligations.

The rich will get richer — already thriving coasts and sun belt are safest bets. Fact is nobody with talent wants to live in a cold flyover dump with high taxes and stupid people.

I get a chuckle imagining someone who thinks of themselves as cosmopolitan writing something ignorant and outdated. Carry on, PP!

Just to focus on Detroit:

- most dangerous city in US, easily 500 too few police officers (broke as a joke)
- can't afford to pave streets or replace water mains which break every week (broke as a joke)
- pension obligations are batsh*t insane
- most adult illiteracy in US
- most expensive, yet worst public school system in US
- UM and MSU grads (i.e. smartest in-state kids) all b-line for Chicago and coasts at graduation
- brutal weather
- more blight than anywhere, literally need $500M+ to tear down rotting houses

Anonymous wrote:Asheville, Boise and RIchmond are hot for retirees and loafers, but is any actual industry going on there?

Agree with previous posters about Detroit and Baltimore even though they sounded a little racist.

Again I ask why? This is a blue collar town dominated by a declining industry.

Anonymous wrote:Greenville, SC, Grand Rapids, MI, Boise, ID, and Kansas City are all areas that I have heard a lot about in the past few years in terms of economic development, growing population, growing restaurant/beer scene, and such.

Greenville is one of the most tedious places in the world. It will never be hot.

Asheville, Boise and RIchmond are hot for retirees and loafers, but is any actual industry going on there?

Agree with previous posters about Detroit and Baltimore even though they sounded a little racist.

Anonymous wrote:Boise is the next Denver CO. Colorado is no longer cheap so people are looking elsewhere and Boise fits the bill

The south is cheaper and people are flocking to get lower costs of living. These 3 cities also have strong growth rates

Charleston SC
Raleigh NC
Myrtle Beach NC/SC

But you have t put up with living in a red state.