Anonymous wrote:Any behavioral specialist will tell you that the absolute last thing you want to do is reward and positively reinforce this behavior (refusing to leave playground) by calling a parent to come pick him up! That's so stupid.

The parent is probably fed up dealing with the incompetent school staff. Why on EARTH would they call the police in a situation where everyone was safe and fine???

This, from a mom of a kid with special needs who had this problem in kindergarten until we got a different placement. They called all the time for everything.

While I am fully on the side of the parent here, I'm annoyed by the theme that this school might not be the right placement.

Why can't the goal be for the base school to step up to the plate and educate the children assigned to go there? Find a solution, don't just say you can't do it. Instead, school districts prefer to ship kids half way across the county, to schools or centers where they can be quarantined down at the end of dark hallways in closet size classrooms. In classes where they won't receive the same education as their "peers" (term used lightly, since they don't really have the opportunity to have any peers or friends, because they spend 90% of their day in self-contained and live so far away from any of the gen ed kids in the school). Falling further behind educationally and socially every year.

Yes, I know the answer is money. Nobody wants to pay to have resources in place where they are needed. But when it is your child who is suffering due to being forced into an alternative placement because the base school doesn't want to deal, that's not a satisfactory answer.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Police was called because school officials can not pick up and carry a child. I’m a teacher. We had a runner leave the school. We had two workers run after the child until police came. Police had to bring the child back. If we are not professionally trained and have the green light to restrain a child, then we can not do it. Police or parents can

Seems to me that the school should a) have a behavior intervention plan in place for kids who run or won't move and b) have someone professionally trained to restrain a child if such restraint is part of the BIP. If the school cannot train or obtain trained personnel to implement a kid's BIP, then the district should place the kid in a school who can implement the BIP.

I've heard of situations where the parent does exactly what was described in the OP because the parent wants the school to provide the supports the child needs to stay in/go into the classroom. The school is refusing to provide those supports, and instead calls the parent frequently, asking the parent to become a defacto class aide for their child. The parent is -- rightly -- resisting this.

And then the school called the police to retaliate against the parent, is likely what happened.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Police was called because school officials can not pick up and carry a child. I’m a teacher. We had a runner leave the school. We had two workers run after the child until police came. Police had to bring the child back. If we are not professionally trained and have the green light to restrain a child, then we can not do it. Police or parents can

Seems to me that the school should a) have a behavior intervention plan in place for kids who run or won't move and b) have someone professionally trained to restrain a child if such restraint is part of the BIP. If the school cannot train or obtain trained personnel to implement a kid's BIP, then the district should place the kid in a school who can implement the BIP.

I've heard of situations where the parent does exactly what was described in the OP because the parent wants the school to provide the supports the child needs to stay in/go into the classroom. The school is refusing to provide those supports, and instead calls the parent frequently, asking the parent to become a defacto class aide for their child. The parent is -- rightly -- resisting this.

+1 If the school can't handle a situation such as the OP described, I would question whether this is the right placement for the kid.

They called the police because the child was refusing to leave the playground? really?

OP you claim to know a lot of details, but I bet you there is a LOT more to the story than you realize. MYOB.

Anonymous wrote:Police was called because school officials can not pick up and carry a child. I’m a teacher. We had a runner leave the school. We had two workers run after the child until police came. Police had to bring the child back. If we are not professionally trained and have the green light to restrain a child, then we can not do it. Police or parents can

Seems to me that the school should a) have a behavior intervention plan in place for kids who run or won't move and b) have someone professionally trained to restrain a child if such restraint is part of the BIP. If the school cannot train or obtain trained personnel to implement a kid's BIP, then the district should place the kid in a school who can implement the BIP.

I've heard of situations where the parent does exactly what was described in the OP because the parent wants the school to provide the supports the child needs to stay in/go into the classroom. The school is refusing to provide those supports, and instead calls the parent frequently, asking the parent to become a defacto class aide for their child. The parent is -- rightly -- resisting this.

Anonymous wrote:So what really happened, OP, is that you and the other school staff became impatient and called the police rather than do your job.

You need to apologize to this family for traumatizing their child by calling the police and for suggesting that the parent should pick him up (illegal denial of education and a completely foolish idea behaviorally).

And you added another bargaining chip to prove that the school is not equipped or willing to handle their responsibilities under FAPE and IDEA.

So what really happened, OP, is that you and the other school staff became impatient and called the police rather than do your job.

You need to apologize to this family for traumatizing their child by calling the police and for suggesting that the parent should pick him up (illegal denial of education and a completely foolish idea behaviorally).

Too often you have to have a crisis situation to get the school to take action. As someone who has been on the receiving end of a lot of school phone calls you are supposed to be the experts and know what to do. You should not need to call mom in to obtain compliance. If you do need to call me in then let’s schedule a meeting so I can get the supports my kid really needs.

Anonymous wrote:I can see why the parent would refuse. They don't want to reward their kid's refusal to go to class. The kid was not hurt or in danger or sick. They don't want to do the school's job for them. It's not sustainable if the parent has to come in all the time because the school can't handle the kid. Either the school figures out how to deal with this kid's issues, or it offers an alternative placement to a school that can.

+1 I find it hard to believe that not one educational professional in that school would have been able to figure out a way to convince that kid to leave the playground. At my kid's school, there's one teacher with a special ed master's degree who is called in to deal with the really bad meltdowns. She has the magic touch.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here. Parent was at home a few minutes away and picked up phone each time. Said couldn't leave because was waiting for a repair man.

so you know the answer... why as us?

+1 And perhaps the school calls regularly for issues they should be able to deal with.

I can see why the parent would refuse. They don't want to reward their kid's refusal to go to class. The kid was not hurt or in danger or sick. They don't want to do the school's job for them. It's not sustainable if the parent has to come in all the time because the school can't handle the kid. Either the school figures out how to deal with this kid's issues, or it offers an alternative placement to a school that can.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For the people that feel that it was escalation to call the mom, and then call the police, when kid was "just staying on the playground and safe"
The only way to insure the safety would be for one staff person to remain outside with that student.
Unless that kid has a 1-1 aide, that is not something that can happen. Staff have other assignments.
If, as others have suggested, this is building toward an argument that the kid needs a 1-1 aide, then this is the process that has to happen.

plus what if he runs from the play ground?

That could happen any day from any child at recess. This child didnt leave school property. Calling the police was completely insane.

Completely mishandled by the school. If child safety was so important that they had to call the police for a child on the playground, then they should have take a staff member away from whatever they were doing to monitor the child.

Boss could threaten to fire an employee for having to leave in the middle of the day to pick up their child yet again.