Anonymous
Post 05/17/2019 15:39     Subject: Teacher claiming assignment not turned in when it was
I got a grade lower than I was expecting in a class my first semester in college (B+ v A or A-). The class involved 3 papers worth 25% each and section/small group participation worth 25%. Had gotten the first two papers back w/ A-s on each; prof was a notoriously hard grader, so figured I'd end up w/ at least an A- for the class and maybe an A. Went to prof to ask about it. Thought it was really unlikely I'd gotten a C or whatever on the final paper; I participated all the time in class, so just assumed that would be an A. Turns out I'd gotten an A on the final paper, but a D in class participation. WTF? I try to explain that that's impossible, but that's difficult to prove. TA is now on vacation somewhere unreachable. Finally gets back and, luckily, TA fesses up that he made a mistake transcribing the grades from his book to the computer because he'd alphabetized my last name differently than the computer did (apostrophe always causing problems). Actually got an A. Prof was like, great, and gave me an A- for the class. I remain a bit bitter to this day b/c A-, A-, A, A w/ the curve the class was known for would have gotten me an A the first time around. No question. But, by the time I'd gotten my corrected grade, it was more than a YEAR later. Such a pain in the ass.
Anonymous
Post 05/16/2019 14:01     Subject: Teacher claiming assignment not turned in when it was
Anonymous wrote:8th grade son has never failed to turn in an assignment, so I was surprised when I saw his English teacher had given him a zero on a recent assignment, saying he hadn't turned it in. I asked DS about it, and he said he turned in the work on time, got an A, and the teacher actually had it hung up in her classroom with the work of the rest of the class. He took a picture of his completed assignment hanging on the wall. He talked to the teacher about the zero and showed her he had turned in the assignment. It's been 3 weeks and the teacher has not changed his zero in the grade book.

I want DS to advocate for himself, and he has done that well, but the teacher is not listening to him, and he should not be penalized for not doing work that he actually did. Is it time to intervene? WWYD?


Unfortunately, I've had several friends say that teachers miss assignments or lose assignments. Their kids -many of htem- now take pics of their assignments prior to turning them in.
Anonymous
Post 05/16/2019 13:00     Subject: Re:Teacher claiming assignment not turned in when it was
I teach my kids that they will have some teachers who simply are difficult in one way or another and it isn't the end of the world. In fact, dealing with bumbling people who get in your way is good preparation for the real world. It's fine to help your kid write an email, but then I'd let it go.
Anonymous
Post 05/16/2019 12:08     Subject: Teacher claiming assignment not turned in when it was
Anonymous wrote:I remember in 10th grade, my Englisg teacher told me I hadn't tirned3in an assignment. I knew I 100% did and was talking to her very normally and she literally screams 'no, you didn't!' I was shocked. I just ended up redoing it. Yes, she was an older teacher and probably burned out.

Glad you're advocating for your kid.


Ugh, excuse the typos.
Anonymous
Post 05/16/2019 12:08     Subject: Teacher claiming assignment not turned in when it was
I remember in 10th grade, my Englisg teacher told me I hadn't tirned3in an assignment. I knew I 100% did and was talking to her very normally and she literally screams 'no, you didn't!' I was shocked. I just ended up redoing it. Yes, she was an older teacher and probably burned out.

Glad you're advocating for your kid.
Anonymous
Post 05/16/2019 11:52     Subject: Teacher claiming assignment not turned in when it was
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Deep breath Op, this is not high school with grades needed to get into college, thank goodness. Assume something like this will happen again when the stakes are MUCH higher. Great he had some way to prove it (need I say it was a oddly convenient that he had proof at-the-ready ... are you sure there's not more story you're not telling us ... or he's not telling you ...)



It's not "oddly convenient" the kid had proof the assignment was turned in -- his assignment was hanging up in the teacher's classroom. She could see for herself he had turned it in and she had graded it.


Because zeros have such high stakes, tons of kids take photo proof of things like this.

It isn't "oddly convenient" so much as it is a good step toward self-advocacy.


Very true.

I save every email I get from coworkers. Seems insane, I know, but it's saved my butt so many times when someone says they told me a, b, c when really they told me x, y, z and I have the proof.

My kid took some instagram photos of him completing a DNA project for his honors biology class a few weeks ago. It turned out to be a good thing because when the grades were posted, he got a 75% and was immediately upset because he knew the work he turned in was not 75% work. He spoke with his teacher the next morning and she told him she was very surprised by the quality of work he turned in and she never expected he'd be the type of student to "phone it in" towards the end of the school year. He asked her to clarify with him what exactly was wrong with his project because he was so confused. When she asked him to grab his to go over it and he came back with his, she said, "that's not yours" and pointed to the project sticker each had to fill out and put on theirs when they turned them in that morning. She was correct - his project had another student's name from another period. She pulled "his" out and showed him what she'd graded as his. So the teacher consulted with the Dean for his grade and they met with the student whose name was on my son's project. That kid said it was his, of course. Then it clicked in my son's mind that he'd put photos up on instagram so he showed the teacher. They asked the other student once more if he was sure that was his project and he kept up the ruse. When told they had proof it was not his work, he finally admitted to switching stickers because he needed better than a 70% on this project to not get a D in the class for the grading period. What's hilarious is that not only did he think he'd get away with this, but his initial project DID get over a 70%!


Wow, that is one of the worst cheating stories I have ever heard, given that the person not only was cheating on his own behalf, but to the detriment of his fellow student. Is this a private school and was he expelled? Or at least suspended with a mark on his record explaining exactly what he did?
Anonymous
Post 05/16/2019 11:46     Subject: Teacher claiming assignment not turned in when it was
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Deep breath Op, this is not high school with grades needed to get into college, thank goodness. Assume something like this will happen again when the stakes are MUCH higher. Great he had some way to prove it (need I say it was a oddly convenient that he had proof at-the-ready ... are you sure there's not more story you're not telling us ... or he's not telling you ...)



It's not "oddly convenient" the kid had proof the assignment was turned in -- his assignment was hanging up in the teacher's classroom. She could see for herself he had turned it in and she had graded it.


Because zeros have such high stakes, tons of kids take photo proof of things like this.

It isn't "oddly convenient" so much as it is a good step toward self-advocacy.


Very true.

I save every email I get from coworkers. Seems insane, I know, but it's saved my butt so many times when someone says they told me a, b, c when really they told me x, y, z and I have the proof.

My kid took some instagram photos of him completing a DNA project for his honors biology class a few weeks ago. It turned out to be a good thing because when the grades were posted, he got a 75% and was immediately upset because he knew the work he turned in was not 75% work. He spoke with his teacher the next morning and she told him she was very surprised by the quality of work he turned in and she never expected he'd be the type of student to "phone it in" towards the end of the school year. He asked her to clarify with him what exactly was wrong with his project because he was so confused. When she asked him to grab his to go over it and he came back with his, she said, "that's not yours" and pointed to the project sticker each had to fill out and put on theirs when they turned them in that morning. She was correct - his project had another student's name from another period. She pulled "his" out and showed him what she'd graded as his. So the teacher consulted with the Dean for his grade and they met with the student whose name was on my son's project. That kid said it was his, of course. Then it clicked in my son's mind that he'd put photos up on instagram so he showed the teacher. They asked the other student once more if he was sure that was his project and he kept up the ruse. When told they had proof it was not his work, he finally admitted to switching stickers because he needed better than a 70% on this project to not get a D in the class for the grading period. What's hilarious is that not only did he think he'd get away with this, but his initial project DID get over a 70%!
Anonymous
Post 05/16/2019 11:05     Subject: Teacher claiming assignment not turned in when it was
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don't think it's weird that he took a picture. He was proud of his grade. Also, how is he faking his assignment with HER handwriting on it? Plus, a picture has date and time info embedded so there is proof of that if you doubt (I don't). Teacher most likely forgot about updating.


When did OP say the work had a grade and teacher comments on it already?


In the OP!!


Reading comprehension fail for you. No retakes. Sorry.


OP here. I said the paper was hanging up in the classroom and kid had gotten an A. It's obvious the teacher saw the paper and wrote a grade on it. Kid took a picture to show me because he knew I would ask why he had a zero. He spoke to the teacher in person and pointed out his graded paper hanging on the wall. She agreed that he had turned the assignment in on time, but has not changed is grade.
Anonymous
Post 05/16/2019 10:59     Subject: Teacher claiming assignment not turned in when it was
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don't think it's weird that he took a picture. He was proud of his grade. Also, how is he faking his assignment with HER handwriting on it? Plus, a picture has date and time info embedded so there is proof of that if you doubt (I don't). Teacher most likely forgot about updating.


When did OP say the work had a grade and teacher comments on it already?


In the OP!!


Reading comprehension fail for you. No retakes. Sorry.


The OP said “He took a picture of his completed assignment hanging on the wall. “ Work can be completed, but not yet graded. I would have written “completed assignment with grade on it”.
Guess I’m too specific.


Yes you're too specific, because you didn't read the sentence right before the one you quoted. "he said he turned in the work on time, got an A, and the teacher actually had it hung up in her classroom with the work of the rest of the class. He took a picture of his completed assignment hanging on the wall."

Try another cup of coffee to wake yourself up.
Anonymous
Post 05/16/2019 10:52     Subject: Teacher claiming assignment not turned in when it was
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don't think it's weird that he took a picture. He was proud of his grade. Also, how is he faking his assignment with HER handwriting on it? Plus, a picture has date and time info embedded so there is proof of that if you doubt (I don't). Teacher most likely forgot about updating.


When did OP say the work had a grade and teacher comments on it already?


In the OP!!


Reading comprehension fail for you. No retakes. Sorry.


The OP said “He took a picture of his completed assignment hanging on the wall. “ Work can be completed, but not yet graded. I would have written “completed assignment with grade on it”.
Guess I’m too specific.