Anonymous
05/15/2019 10:32
Subject: Re:Official Abortion Thread
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
A woman has a right to control her body. Period. It doesn't matter the reason.
Too bad the body control only occurs after the pregnancy.
Abortion is the only way women can seemingly control their bodies.
I like how you let men off the hook so easily.
Unfortunately, I didn’t create humankind. I made no personal decision to build a woman’s body to carry unborn babies, and gift a man with a penis.
I also don’t force women to have sex with men who will not support them in case pregnancy occurs. Women choose who they have sex with. If they have sex with a man who won’t help support a possible pregnancy I can’t prevent that.
However, a man can be forced to take a paternity test and the government will even take money out of his check for child support should he prove to be the father and refuse financial responsibility.
Anonymous
05/15/2019 10:31
Subject: Re:Official Abortion Thread
Anonymous wrote:Meanwhile birth rates are at a 32 year low. We are turning into Japan and all you anti-lifers won't have anyone take care of you when older.
https://wtop.com/national/2019/05/fewer-babies-as-us-birth-rate-fails-to-rebound-with-economy/
What do you expect in the country without parental leave, universal healthcare, and affordable childcare?
Anonymous
05/15/2019 10:28
Subject: Official Abortion Thread
Shocking that men don’t take greater care not to cause an accidental pregnancy, either by keeping their pants zipped or getting a vasectomy or at the very least always using condoms.
But really it comes down to men being irresponsible. Learn to say no to your baser instincts, boys. Don’t have sex unless you are willing to deal with the consequences of creating a baby. Wait until you’ve found them right woman you want to spend the rest of your life with.
But really it comes down to men being irresponsible. Learn to say no to your baser instincts, boys. Don’t have sex unless you are willing to deal with the consequences of creating a baby. Wait until you’ve found them right woman you want to spend the rest of your life with.
Anonymous
05/15/2019 10:26
Subject: Official Abortion Thread
I’m a 54-year-old woman, so the birth control pill and abortion have been available throughout my reproductive years, though I have never had an abortion.
I was raised Catholic in the 1970s, attending a parochial grade school and high school. Of the 17 girls in my 8th-grade class of 1978, seven (that I know of) became pregnant out of wedlock - anywhere from high school to a couple of years after college. Most are Caucasian, a few Hispanic. We were taught that b/c was a sin AND totally ineffective. We were also taught that abortion is a mortal sin. This was drilled into us relentlessly, so I have no doubt that this is why my female peers opted not to use b/c and wound up pregnant. Abortion was obviously not an option. Unlike girls a born a decade earlier, all of these girls/women kept their children. Most married the fathers.
Over the years, I have seen what played out. Now I am Facebook friends with most of these women. None of their lives are great, except for maybe one. Most seem sad and caught in a lower-class lifestyle. A few are mothers of incarcerated men. All except for one are divorced and on second or third marriages. None have wealth. Most did not finish college and work low-wage jobs, or don’t work at all. Strikingly, most have children who also have children out of wedlock. It’s like watching this terrible cycle play out all over again.
From what I can gather, all of these women are still strongly against abortion. I was spared their fate, so I view the world through a different lens. The older I get, the more I directly blame the Catholic Church for how my generation (of Catholics) wound up. While our priests were getting it on with each other at the rectory (documented), we were being taught a long list of “sins.” I feel as though I was raised in a cult, managed to get out, but still experience the pain of seeing those who did not fare so well.
The GOP needs an under-class to exploit and profit from. Their policies demonstrate that living children are of little concern to them. The Catholic Church and Evangelical churches need members to generate enough donations for church leaders to live high on the hog while “the faithful” procreate and shuffle along.
Restricting abortion access has never been about babies. It has been totally about controlling women and ensuring a lower class of sheeple. I have a 14-year-old daughter and I am genuinely afraid for the future in which she will live.
I was raised Catholic in the 1970s, attending a parochial grade school and high school. Of the 17 girls in my 8th-grade class of 1978, seven (that I know of) became pregnant out of wedlock - anywhere from high school to a couple of years after college. Most are Caucasian, a few Hispanic. We were taught that b/c was a sin AND totally ineffective. We were also taught that abortion is a mortal sin. This was drilled into us relentlessly, so I have no doubt that this is why my female peers opted not to use b/c and wound up pregnant. Abortion was obviously not an option. Unlike girls a born a decade earlier, all of these girls/women kept their children. Most married the fathers.
Over the years, I have seen what played out. Now I am Facebook friends with most of these women. None of their lives are great, except for maybe one. Most seem sad and caught in a lower-class lifestyle. A few are mothers of incarcerated men. All except for one are divorced and on second or third marriages. None have wealth. Most did not finish college and work low-wage jobs, or don’t work at all. Strikingly, most have children who also have children out of wedlock. It’s like watching this terrible cycle play out all over again.
From what I can gather, all of these women are still strongly against abortion. I was spared their fate, so I view the world through a different lens. The older I get, the more I directly blame the Catholic Church for how my generation (of Catholics) wound up. While our priests were getting it on with each other at the rectory (documented), we were being taught a long list of “sins.” I feel as though I was raised in a cult, managed to get out, but still experience the pain of seeing those who did not fare so well.
The GOP needs an under-class to exploit and profit from. Their policies demonstrate that living children are of little concern to them. The Catholic Church and Evangelical churches need members to generate enough donations for church leaders to live high on the hog while “the faithful” procreate and shuffle along.
Restricting abortion access has never been about babies. It has been totally about controlling women and ensuring a lower class of sheeple. I have a 14-year-old daughter and I am genuinely afraid for the future in which she will live.
Anonymous
05/15/2019 10:21
Subject: Official Abortion Thread
Anonymous wrote:Who needs Sharia law?
We have the American Taliban using the Handmaids Tale as an instruction manual.
Anonymous
05/15/2019 10:21
Subject: Re:Official Abortion Thread
Ah yes. Flicking your own child away- easy.
Guess the old trope that abortion being the hardest and most painful decision a woman can make and how dare the right trivialize it is bs, after all.
Anonymous
05/15/2019 10:19
Subject: Re:Official Abortion Thread
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
A woman has a right to control her body. Period. It doesn't matter the reason.
Too bad the body control only occurs after the pregnancy.
Abortion is the only way women can seemingly control their bodies.
I like how you let men off the hook so easily.
Exactly!! It’s like women get pregnant on their own. Men often support the abortion choice of women but never suffer the consequences of that decision.
Anonymous
05/15/2019 10:16
Subject: Official Abortion Thread
I'd like to hear from all the millennials who claimed Roe would never be challenged and therefore they didn't need to vote.
Anonymous
05/15/2019 10:16
Subject: Re:Official Abortion Thread
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
A woman has a right to control her body. Period. It doesn't matter the reason.
Too bad the body control only occurs after the pregnancy.
Abortion is the only way women can seemingly control their bodies.
I like how you let men off the hook so easily.
Anonymous
05/15/2019 10:13
Subject: Re:Official Abortion Thread
Anonymous wrote:Meanwhile birth rates are at a 32 year low. We are turning into Japan and all you anti-lifers won't have anyone take care of you when older.
https://wtop.com/national/2019/05/fewer-babies-as-us-birth-rate-fails-to-rebound-with-economy/
Solution: bring unwanted children people can’t take care of into the world. Then refuse to provide any support so the family can take care of them.
Spoiler alert: they are not the people who grow up to become productive citizens.
We could also let immigrants in. Ponder that radical thought.
Anonymous
05/15/2019 10:13
Subject: Re:Official Abortion Thread
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Meanwhile birth rates are at a 32 year low. We are turning into Japan and all you anti-lifers won't have anyone take care of you when older.
https://wtop.com/national/2019/05/fewer-babies-as-us-birth-rate-fails-to-rebound-with-economy/
Are we going to bring back state run orphanages? The foster system is about to be more flooded than it already is. These kids are going to have to go somewhere. Especially once the cute and cuddly wears off.
PP wants a forced breeding program like Romania had under Ceausescu
Anonymous
05/15/2019 10:13
Subject: Official Abortion Thread
Who needs Sharia law?
Anonymous
05/15/2019 10:12
Subject: Official Abortion Thread
Anonymous wrote:The men who impregnate, willingly or unwillingly, women should be castrated--publicly and we should start with Clyde Chambliss of Alabama. Also, every pro-life man and woman should have to contribute a minimum of 25% of their annual income to help rear unwanted children.
Within 24 hours all of these hypocrites would be pro choice.
I think perhaps the pro-castrations poster would merit a glance.
Apparently rape and castration are the left’s reason and answer to millions of convenience abortions.
Anonymous
05/15/2019 10:09
Subject: Re:Official Abortion Thread
Anonymous wrote:Meanwhile birth rates are at a 32 year low. We are turning into Japan and all you anti-lifers won't have anyone take care of you when older.
https://wtop.com/national/2019/05/fewer-babies-as-us-birth-rate-fails-to-rebound-with-economy/
Are we going to bring back state run orphanages? The foster system is about to be more flooded than it already is. These kids are going to have to go somewhere. Especially once the cute and cuddly wears off.
Anonymous
05/15/2019 10:07
Subject: Re:Official Abortion Thread
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Interesting that less than 0.1% of all abortions are due to rape, yet the left brings this up as the reason to keep RvW.
Absolutely. That’s the real issue. Using actual rape victims to shield your access to convenience abortion sure is grand.
Only because Alabama chose not to make an exception for them. They could have made an exception. Then this argument would not exist.