Anonymous
05/13/2019 14:15
Subject: Average cost for Travel
My DC plays ECNL and most of the cost is related to travel. it is not only the player's travel cost, but gas and hotel for the parents too. We have occasional airplane travel and flights for a group can be expensive.
Our club does fundraisers, but it isn't like those dollars go directly into my account. I might be the leading fundraiser and the entire team benefits.
Just things to think about for those of you that are cost conscious.
Our club does fundraisers, but it isn't like those dollars go directly into my account. I might be the leading fundraiser and the entire team benefits.
Just things to think about for those of you that are cost conscious.
Anonymous
05/13/2019 13:46
Subject: Average cost for Travel
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Do any of the local clubs disclose their finances in a transparent way, explaining how much they collect, how much goes to the fields rental, how much goes to salaries for coaches and administration, etc? We know that they collect big $$$$ from parents each year, but I am yet to see an comprehensive disclosure through public financials of how the money is spent. If they coaches are not paid well, then who gets to keep the rest of the money?
Our team (not club) does. It's in the annual parental commitment letter we sign.
How are your team's costs, compared to what you're seeing on this thread?
Excellent. I'm the poster paying less than $2000 per year.
Anonymous
05/13/2019 12:46
Subject: Average cost for Travel
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Do any of the local clubs disclose their finances in a transparent way, explaining how much they collect, how much goes to the fields rental, how much goes to salaries for coaches and administration, etc? We know that they collect big $$$$ from parents each year, but I am yet to see an comprehensive disclosure through public financials of how the money is spent. If they coaches are not paid well, then who gets to keep the rest of the money?
Our team (not club) does. It's in the annual parental commitment letter we sign.
How are your team's costs, compared to what you're seeing on this thread?
Anonymous
05/13/2019 12:36
Subject: Average cost for Travel
Anonymous wrote:Do any of the local clubs disclose their finances in a transparent way, explaining how much they collect, how much goes to the fields rental, how much goes to salaries for coaches and administration, etc? We know that they collect big $$$$ from parents each year, but I am yet to see an comprehensive disclosure through public financials of how the money is spent. If they coaches are not paid well, then who gets to keep the rest of the money?
Our team (not club) does. It's in the annual parental commitment letter we sign.
Anonymous
05/13/2019 12:30
Subject: Re:Average cost for Travel
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Let's see 2000$ (average) 13 players = 26,000$ For 3 teams lets say (Red,white,blue) = 78,000
That's 78,000$ now U9-U16 = 624,000$ !!!! Now that's just the boys side..
Should we multiply that number times 2 for the girls???
You forgot Rec and the extra camps like Summer and Winter camp...
Futsal extra training like dribbling and striker clinics
LOL. OK, now divide by all the coaches and staff for that example club. The numbers shrink back down.
Anonymous
05/13/2019 12:29
Subject: Average cost for Travel
Anonymous wrote:Do any of the local clubs disclose their finances in a transparent way, explaining how much they collect, how much goes to the fields rental, how much goes to salaries for coaches and administration, etc? We know that they collect big $$$$ from parents each year, but I am yet to see an comprehensive disclosure through public financials of how the money is spent. If they coaches are not paid well, then who gets to keep the rest of the money?
I haven't seen this. I know that many (if not all?) of the clubs are organized as nonprofits, and at least some have bylaws that specifically forbid compensating directors / board members.
Some budget goes to financial aid (but not nearly enough, as has been discussed on this board.)
So... just because the clubs are nonprofits doesn't mean they don't take in more than they spend, so maybe they have major cash reserves at some of the bigger clubs? Just guessing.
But in theory nobody is "raking it in" on an individual level -- which isn't to say that a problem of same or similar value couldn't be offered at a lower cost by someone more budget-conscious.
Anonymous
05/13/2019 12:23
Subject: Re:Average cost for Travel
Anonymous wrote:Let's see 2000$ (average) 13 players = 26,000$ For 3 teams lets say (Red,white,blue) = 78,000
That's 78,000$ now U9-U16 = 624,000$ !!!! Now that's just the boys side..
Should we multiply that number times 2 for the girls???
You forgot Rec and the extra camps like Summer and Winter camp...
Futsal extra training like dribbling and striker clinics
Anonymous
05/13/2019 12:08
Subject: Re:Average cost for Travel
Let's see 2000$ (average) 13 players = 26,000$ For 3 teams lets say (Red,white,blue) = 78,000
That's 78,000$ now U9-U16 = 624,000$ !!!! Now that's just the boys side..
Should we multiply that number times 2 for the girls???
That's 78,000$ now U9-U16 = 624,000$ !!!! Now that's just the boys side..
Should we multiply that number times 2 for the girls???
Anonymous
05/13/2019 11:59
Subject: Average cost for Travel
Do any of the local clubs disclose their finances in a transparent way, explaining how much they collect, how much goes to the fields rental, how much goes to salaries for coaches and administration, etc? We know that they collect big $$$$ from parents each year, but I am yet to see an comprehensive disclosure through public financials of how the money is spent. If they coaches are not paid well, then who gets to keep the rest of the money?
Anonymous
05/13/2019 11:25
Subject: Average cost for Travel
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:MSI is going to cost 2175$ for 2 practice a week and NCSL league. Now is it just me or does this seem a bit much, usually most clubs have 3 practices a week.
How much does your club cost?
That is high. Our team has 3x practices per week. $1600 for year.
$1600 seems on the low side. What club is that?
When did we the parents decide 1600$ a year for soccer is on the low side? You just need a soccer ball and a field..
Oh you must be a coach or admin that really need to make 90k a year
Nice comment. Most of these coaches are making much less than that, working the coaching job in addition to another job to make ends meet in this very expensive area.
You are free to have your kids play rec or pickup if you don’t want to spend the $1600-2k.
Not the previous poster, but someone must be raking in the cash. Soccer clubs book the county fields on the cheap and then charge thousands of dollars to hundreds of families, who paid for these fields through taxes. When my kids started to play, the top clubs were charging around $1100-1200. This would be considered cheap now. This is not a good trend.
Most coaches will charge somewhere around $150 per 90 min session, and maybe $200 for a game. So if they are lucky or good enough to have 2 teams practicing 3x week plus games on the weekend, they'll be making about $1200 / week. Multiply that by 40 weeks a year (figuring 6 weeks off in summer/winter, also accounting for weather related cancellations) and you're talking about something in the neighborhood of $50,000 a year. Enough to live on, but hardly "raking in the cash" (esp if self-employed and paying for health ins). For those with day jobs, it only works if their other job is flexible enough to accommodate their practice schedule. You can't very well work 9-5 in Tysons and coach 2 teams in Springfield - you'd never make it to practice on time. Those who combine something like being a school teacher with a coaching gig at night probably have the most manageable schedule and will be doing OK financially, but it's not always a very sustainable life style if they plan on having a family some day.
I think most coaches make half that amount for two teams.
Anonymous
05/13/2019 10:45
Subject: Average cost for Travel
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:MSI is going to cost 2175$ for 2 practice a week and NCSL league. Now is it just me or does this seem a bit much, usually most clubs have 3 practices a week.
How much does your club cost?
That is high. Our team has 3x practices per week. $1600 for year.
$1600 seems on the low side. What club is that?
When did we the parents decide 1600$ a year for soccer is on the low side? You just need a soccer ball and a field..
Oh you must be a coach or admin that really need to make 90k a year
Nice comment. Most of these coaches are making much less than that, working the coaching job in addition to another job to make ends meet in this very expensive area.
You are free to have your kids play rec or pickup if you don’t want to spend the $1600-2k.
Not the previous poster, but someone must be raking in the cash. Soccer clubs book the county fields on the cheap and then charge thousands of dollars to hundreds of families, who paid for these fields through taxes. When my kids started to play, the top clubs were charging around $1100-1200. This would be considered cheap now. This is not a good trend.
Most coaches will charge somewhere around $150 per 90 min session, and maybe $200 for a game. So if they are lucky or good enough to have 2 teams practicing 3x week plus games on the weekend, they'll be making about $1200 / week. Multiply that by 40 weeks a year (figuring 6 weeks off in summer/winter, also accounting for weather related cancellations) and you're talking about something in the neighborhood of $50,000 a year. Enough to live on, but hardly "raking in the cash" (esp if self-employed and paying for health ins). For those with day jobs, it only works if their other job is flexible enough to accommodate their practice schedule. You can't very well work 9-5 in Tysons and coach 2 teams in Springfield - you'd never make it to practice on time. Those who combine something like being a school teacher with a coaching gig at night probably have the most manageable schedule and will be doing OK financially, but it's not always a very sustainable life style if they plan on having a family some day.
Anonymous
05/13/2019 10:33
Subject: Re:Average cost for Travel
Anonymous wrote:Why is GFR charging 3600$ for club fees?
Metro United charges $3600 all inclusive (all training, fields, events) for full time DA players. This is a reduction from WS VA costs.
There is no GFR DA. Its just the administrative machinery and fields....
Anonymous
05/13/2019 10:32
Subject: Re:Average cost for Travel
Anonymous wrote:Why is GFR charging 3600$ for club fees?
Because you are Great Falls.
Anonymous
05/13/2019 10:16
Subject: Average cost for Travel
The Balimore DA is just the WS DA costs. They do practice 4x a week.
Anonymous
05/13/2019 09:45
Subject: Re:Average cost for Travel
Why is GFR charging 3600$ for club fees?