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Anonymous wrote:Are you not a WS parent? The rising 05s have a 20 percent win ratio. A far way from playoffs. Their goal should be a 500 season.

Yes, but what the win ratio doesn't tell you is what I was talking about with having non-DA ready players. If you had watched the games, you would see that there is a core group that is very competitive when they are all out there. Then, there is a group of players that aren't ready and can't compete. Just like having a 1-2 positive impact players changes games, having 1-2 (or more) negative impact players changes it too. And there is an 05 forward who has spent the year largely on the 04 team, with the exception of a couple of games. So, if you don't have to force playing time for players that aren't ready and you return a goal scorer to the line up, that changes things.

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Anonymous wrote:Things may have changed. Get a current answer on club affiliation next year.

You aren't listening. I did. Unless it changed today, my information is current. Who are you getting your information from to be so insistent? I'm asking sincerely. Did you have a conversation today? This week? With senior leadership like the owner or Larry? With a coach such as Tom, Spencer or George?

Nope. Just making sure you weren't relying on Larry's email from months ago. It sounds like everyone can put the GFR hand over to rest.

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Anonymous wrote:Things may have changed. Get a current answer on club affiliation next year.

You aren't listening. I did. Unless it changed today, my information is current. Who are you getting your information from to be so insistent? I'm asking sincerely. Did you have a conversation today? This week? With senior leadership like the owner or Larry? With a coach such as Tom, Spencer or George?

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Anonymous wrote:Are you not a WS parent? The rising 05s have a 20 percent win ratio. A far way from playoffs. Their goal should be a 500 season.

Yes, but what the win ratio doesn't tell you is what I was talking about with having non-DA ready players. If you had watched the games, you would see that there is a core group that is very competitive when they are all out there. Then, there is a group of players that aren't ready and can't compete. Just like having a 1-2 positive impact players changes games, having 1-2 (or more) negative impact players changes it too. And there is an 05 forward who has spent the year largely on the 04 team, with the exception of a couple of games. So, if you don't have to force playing time for players that aren't ready and you return a goal scorer to the line up, that changes things.

almost every elite team in the area is like this. the best teams are more level from 1-18. the weaker teams fall off after 1-5 or 1-8. the difference has more to do with depth, not the top talent.

Then if they all tighten their rosters instead of carrying players that aren't ready, they will be more competitive and in reality it will raise the level of training and game tactics for the entire team. The practices become harder for the remaining players. The coach can work on higher level concepts because those players are ready. And with the new Competition Cup, they have a chance at accessing higher level games. Plus, all the match ups for showcases will be higher level, raising development for the remaining players.

woohoo, apple pie AND cake for all? it's a nice thought, but clubs (especially WS) don't generally do this because it reduces club revenues.

if I hadn't been told by Spirit coaches that rosters will be smaller and that this is the direction the new owner wants to move in. I would agree. Several other parents said they had heard the same thing.

I URGE you and others to get a straight answer from Spirit on the direction of the VA program next year.

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Anonymous wrote:Are you not a WS parent? The rising 05s have a 20 percent win ratio. A far way from playoffs. Their goal should be a 500 season.

Yes, but what the win ratio doesn't tell you is what I was talking about with having non-DA ready players. If you had watched the games, you would see that there is a core group that is very competitive when they are all out there. Then, there is a group of players that aren't ready and can't compete. Just like having a 1-2 positive impact players changes games, having 1-2 (or more) negative impact players changes it too. And there is an 05 forward who has spent the year largely on the 04 team, with the exception of a couple of games. So, if you don't have to force playing time for players that aren't ready and you return a goal scorer to the line up, that changes things.

almost every elite team in the area is like this. the best teams are more level from 1-18. the weaker teams fall off after 1-5 or 1-8. the difference has more to do with depth, not the top talent.

Then if they all tighten their rosters instead of carrying players that aren't ready, they will be more competitive and in reality it will raise the level of training and game tactics for the entire team. The practices become harder for the remaining players. The coach can work on higher level concepts because those players are ready. And with the new Competition Cup, they have a chance at accessing higher level games. Plus, all the match ups for showcases will be higher level, raising development for the remaining players.

woohoo, apple pie AND cake for all? it's a nice thought, but clubs (especially WS) don't generally do this because it reduces club revenues.

if I hadn't been told by Spirit coaches that rosters will be smaller and that this is the direction the new owner wants to move in. I would agree. Several other parents said they had heard the same thing.

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Anonymous wrote:Are you not a WS parent? The rising 05s have a 20 percent win ratio. A far way from playoffs. Their goal should be a 500 season.

Yes, but what the win ratio doesn't tell you is what I was talking about with having non-DA ready players. If you had watched the games, you would see that there is a core group that is very competitive when they are all out there. Then, there is a group of players that aren't ready and can't compete. Just like having a 1-2 positive impact players changes games, having 1-2 (or more) negative impact players changes it too. And there is an 05 forward who has spent the year largely on the 04 team, with the exception of a couple of games. So, if you don't have to force playing time for players that aren't ready and you return a goal scorer to the line up, that changes things.

almost every elite team in the area is like this. the best teams are more level from 1-18. the weaker teams fall off after 1-5 or 1-8. the difference has more to do with depth, not the top talent.

Then if they all tighten their rosters instead of carrying players that aren't ready, they will be more competitive and in reality it will raise the level of training and game tactics for the entire team. The practices become harder for the remaining players. The coach can work on higher level concepts because those players are ready. And with the new Competition Cup, they have a chance at accessing higher level games. Plus, all the match ups for showcases will be higher level, raising development for the remaining players.

woohoo, apple pie AND cake for all? it's a nice thought, but clubs (especially WS) don't generally do this because it reduces club revenues.

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Anonymous wrote:Are you not a WS parent? The rising 05s have a 20 percent win ratio. A far way from playoffs. Their goal should be a 500 season.

Yes, but what the win ratio doesn't tell you is what I was talking about with having non-DA ready players. If you had watched the games, you would see that there is a core group that is very competitive when they are all out there. Then, there is a group of players that aren't ready and can't compete. Just like having a 1-2 positive impact players changes games, having 1-2 (or more) negative impact players changes it too. And there is an 05 forward who has spent the year largely on the 04 team, with the exception of a couple of games. So, if you don't have to force playing time for players that aren't ready and you return a goal scorer to the line up, that changes things.

almost every elite team in the area is like this. the best teams are more level from 1-18. the weaker teams fall off after 1-5 or 1-8. the difference has more to do with depth, not the top talent.

Then if they all tighten their rosters instead of carrying players that aren't ready, they will be more competitive and in reality it will raise the level of training and game tactics for the entire team. The practices become harder for the remaining players. The coach can work on higher level concepts because those players are ready. And with the new Competition Cup, they have a chance at accessing higher level games. Plus, all the match ups for showcases will be higher level, raising development for the remaining players.

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Anonymous wrote:Are you not a WS parent? The rising 05s have a 20 percent win ratio. A far way from playoffs. Their goal should be a 500 season.

Yes, but what the win ratio doesn't tell you is what I was talking about with having non-DA ready players. If you had watched the games, you would see that there is a core group that is very competitive when they are all out there. Then, there is a group of players that aren't ready and can't compete. Just like having a 1-2 positive impact players changes games, having 1-2 (or more) negative impact players changes it too. And there is an 05 forward who has spent the year largely on the 04 team, with the exception of a couple of games. So, if you don't have to force playing time for players that aren't ready and you return a goal scorer to the line up, that changes things.

almost every elite team in the area is like this. the best teams are more level from 1-18. the weaker teams fall off after 1-5 or 1-8. the difference has more to do with depth, not the top talent.

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Anonymous wrote:Are you not a WS parent? The rising 05s have a 20 percent win ratio. A far way from playoffs. Their goal should be a 500 season.

Yes, but what the win ratio doesn't tell you is what I was talking about with having non-DA ready players. If you had watched the games, you would see that there is a core group that is very competitive when they are all out there. Then, there is a group of players that aren't ready and can't compete. Just like having a 1-2 positive impact players changes games, having 1-2 (or more) negative impact players changes it too. And there is an 05 forward who has spent the year largely on the 04 team, with the exception of a couple of games. So, if you don't have to force playing time for players that aren't ready and you return a goal scorer to the line up, that changes things.

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Anonymous wrote:Yet another thread dedicated to bashing Spirit.

How shocking! It's slow DD's parents lifelong mission, so it will never end. Of course, it would be easier to admit that DD just isn't cut out for elite soccer, but psychosis has this way of avoiding the rational approach.

WS parents should be careful with throwing stones

Why? This DD couldn’t make WS, so this is a stone worth throwing.

U14: 3-11-5
U15: 2-18-4 (-32 GD)
U16/17: 2-17-2 (-54 GD)
U18/19: 10-10-0

The U16/17 split next year causing even more issues.

Now take that stone and put it back in your pocket.

Different poster. I don't like all the "your DD is slow" crap. I also don't like the trolling on the flip side. I actually think the split age group helps. Now Spirit can do away with the EDP concept, which is the most tragic thing I have ever seen. That was poorly conceived, poorly run, and I feel genuinely bad for those players. I would never have accepted it for my kid. Now, you are either DA or you aren't. They can put the PT players with GFR, which is what should have happened all along. Also, every age group has overly large rosters with a portion of players that should not have been placed at this level. They lack the ability to compete at this level. It doesn't mean they are bad players or that they could never make it. However, it doesn't help them to develop by placing them so far beyond what they can do. It actually breaks their confidence. So, we trim the players that aren't there yet and if they still want a pipeline to Spirit, they can join GFR.

Then you stop playing players up. This makes the at age team competitive and helps the team the play ups were on by also making them more competitive. That will change the record for most of the teams. Some teams are clearly struggling regardless, but every club has an age group that isn't very impressive.

Respectable post.

However, I disagree with you on the impact of the 16/17 split. WS does not have depth. Even at clubs with depth, the 16/17 split will have a significant impact.

The split at WS VA will cause a vacuum effect by pulling up kids from the age group below to cover. The only other scenario is to bring in a large number of players.

It might. It depends on a few factors, so I can't unequivocally say there is no issue. Here's my math on this: there are currently about 14 full time DA 2003s, if I exclude EDP players. (I don't know their situation). In fact, WS VA's U17 team is largely 2003s, even though the reverse is true for many DA clubs, like let's say Cedar Stars as an example. The plan is tighter rosters, and I have seen clubs with that small a roster. NYC FC definitely keeps it small, as an example. There are currently about 20 full time DA 2004s, if I exclude EDP players and players who left. And of those 20, with smaller rosters, some will likely be cut. So, the only problem will be if the 19s don't have enough, and have to pull up 2003s which in turn pulls up 2004s. I don't know their situation. Do they have players coming in? Do they plan to give some space for GFR players? I also don't know if Spirit has planned a closer relationship with GFR. I have seen more involvement from them this spring. We even scrimmaged one of their boys' teams.

That's also excluding any players coming in that I may not know about.

The 2005s will have no issues. That's a strong group that just needs a thinner roster and then it wouldn't be an answer for us to get the forward who plays up back on the team. We could be a U15 play off team IMHO.

I guess we will have to see how it plays out, and if the 2006s can be transformed and how the 2007s turn out.

This is why WSVA gets bashed. The U15 are going to be a playoff team next year? Lol. So will the Washington Wizards.