My grandmother lived with us growing up. She came up during the depression and had been poor most of her life.
She trusted no one.
Sometimes it was too much, but a little bit of that keeps you safe.

So was Claudia brainwashed into thinking that she poisoned them? Or did she actually do it?

What's the likelihood that two crazies (Claudia and Larry) end up under the same roof?

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Anonymous wrote:Once again, do not expect ANY supervision from colleges regarding social or even criminal behavior. The US Supreme Court discouraged "in loco parentis" in the 1970s. Now colleges are advised not to set any precedents by setting or enforcing rules on conduct. It's gotten much worse since 2000.
Your college kid is on their own - totally.

This is totally unacceptable.
Why pay anything for that?

I don't like it either. But what can they do? You can't make your adult children do anything in your own home so why should they be held responsible. They should have enforced the rule about the father living there. They completely dropped the ball on that one. But he already had a strong hold it seems like.

He had a hold on his daughter, it seems, but if he had been tossed out of the dorm he might not have gotten influence over what sound like very vulnerable, susceptible young adults who were in his orbit because he freaking LIVED with them.

Sadly, just because a person is over 18 and "able" to live somewhere that's not home, that does not mean he or she is at all capable of recognizing manipulation. And young adults/college students now want to be easygoing, kind, open to everyone, unbiased--and they think it's judgy, cynical and biased to suspect that someone might be anything other than OK. Live and let live. I see it in my DC and DC's peers. It's commendable in theory but this case shows why it can turn out tragically in reality.

Show my DC and DC's friends an article like this one and they'll say it's awful but can't happen to them because they'll be more aware than these students were.

Which is frightening because I'm sure the students at SLC would have thought the same thing.

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Anonymous wrote:Once again, do not expect ANY supervision from colleges regarding social or even criminal behavior. The US Supreme Court discouraged "in loco parentis" in the 1970s. Now colleges are advised not to set any precedents by setting or enforcing rules on conduct. It's gotten much worse since 2000.
Your college kid is on their own - totally.

This is totally unacceptable.
Why pay anything for that?

I don't like it either. But what can they do? You can't make your adult children do anything in your own home so why should they be held responsible. They should have enforced the rule about the father living there. They completely dropped the ball on that one. But he already had a strong hold it seems like.

Anonymous wrote:Once again, do not expect ANY supervision from colleges regarding social or even criminal behavior. The US Supreme Court discouraged "in loco parentis" in the 1970s. Now colleges are advised not to set any precedents by setting or enforcing rules on conduct. It's gotten much worse since 2000.
Your college kid is on their own - totally.

This is totally unacceptable.
Why pay anything for that?

Anonymous wrote:May I raise child who recognizes this insanity in the first 5 minutes.
May I raise a child who says, “ I’m woke, but no, your criminal father can’t crash here.”

All that education, but so little common sense.

Anonymous wrote:May I raise child who recognizes this insanity in the first 5 minutes.
May I raise a child who says, “ I’m woke, but no, your criminal father can’t crash here.”

Amen! I have no judgment for these poor parents or kids. But for the grace of God....

May I raise child who recognizes this insanity in the first 5 minutes.
May I raise a child who says, “ I’m woke, but no, your criminal father can’t crash here.”

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Anonymous wrote:Once again, do not expect ANY supervision from colleges regarding social or even criminal behavior. The US Supreme Court discouraged "in loco parentis" in the 1970s. Now colleges are advised not to set any precedents by setting or enforcing rules on conduct. It's gotten much worse since 2000.
Your college kid is on their own - totally.

Maybe because they aren't 'kids'. If you're in college and staying in college housing you're an adult/18. Since they were sophomores these women had to be 19 or 20. Smart enough for at least ONE of the 8 housemates to note this wasn't right.

And where was this felon's parole officer in all of this?

not everyone becomes adult at 18. also, going to school while someone else pays the bills is hardly conduces to growing up. 'college experience' in the US is completely screwed up.

Wow. Thank you for sharing. That was bizarre to read. Interesting connection to Donald Trump mentioned in the article, too.

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Anonymous wrote:Once again, do not expect ANY supervision from colleges regarding social or even criminal behavior. The US Supreme Court discouraged "in loco parentis" in the 1970s. Now colleges are advised not to set any precedents by setting or enforcing rules on conduct. It's gotten much worse since 2000.
Your college kid is on their own - totally.

Maybe because they aren't 'kids'. If you're in college and staying in college housing you're an adult/18. Since they were sophomores these women had to be 19 or 20. Smart enough for at least ONE of the 8 housemates to note this wasn't right.

And where was this felon's parole officer in all of this?

What could any one of them have done? The school was already aware and ignored it.

Anonymous wrote:That one family—the Columbia university freshman, the Harvard grad medical resident, and the Sarah Lawrence kid? All three successful siblings in this family destroyed. Those poor parents! They did this amazing job of educating their kids and poof! Gone.

This hit hard. Those parents did so much right. How could someone manipulate a doctor like that???

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Anonymous wrote:How on earth did the school allow this man to live there? When you rent a house, there’s usually a clause limiting the number of times someone not in the lease can stay over. How does a college allow an adult to basically move in to a dorm?

Seriously. A grown man (a parent no less) MOVES IN to a dorm -- nobody says anything? There are not security guards, RAs, resident deans or anything? Or other students did not complain?

It wasn't a dorm. It was off campus housing. The landlord went to court to get this guy evicted eventually.

Liar, LIAR, pants on fire!
The article says it was ON their campus!

Anonymous wrote:Once again, do not expect ANY supervision from colleges regarding social or even criminal behavior. The US Supreme Court discouraged "in loco parentis" in the 1970s. Now colleges are advised not to set any precedents by setting or enforcing rules on conduct. It's gotten much worse since 2000.
Your college kid is on their own - totally.

Maybe because they aren't 'kids'. If you're in college and staying in college housing you're an adult/18. Since they were sophomores these women had to be 19 or 20. Smart enough for at least ONE of the 8 housemates to note this wasn't right.

And where was this felon's parole officer in all of this?

What the what! So bizarre.