Anonymous
Post 04/23/2019 18:32     Subject: Re:Impeachment

It's Congress' duty to considerate and/or initiate impeachment, as Mueller lays out in the report. So if Congress doesn't act if investigations show enough evidence to do so, then can we trust these representatives to do their jobs in the future? Will it erode the trust in Congress, just as Trump has eroded trust in our law enforcement and DOJ? Constitution requires elected officials and members of Congress to do their jobs, politics aside.
Anonymous
Post 04/23/2019 18:32     Subject: Re:Impeachment

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Let's see.

First, it was a recount. Then, it was an invalid election because of the RUSSIANS! Then, there was the hope that he would keel over on his own. There was also the hope that he would resign because the Mueller report would be so bad - remember, he was reported to be the "unindicted coconspirator to at least two felonies." Then, you went to impeachment. Then, the 25th amendment. Now, back to impeachment.

The Democrats have been plotting how to get Trump out of office since before he was inaugurated. Looks like impeachment is your only option at this point. But, here's a dirty little secret, folks. Impeachment will not get him out of office.

So, keep plotting and planning your strategy.
Me? I enjoy reading year-old threads that have not come to fruition with all the conspiracy theories and predictions that never happened.

Like this one: https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/770328.page


And I'm tired of being held hostage by idiots like you and your fellow 37% who refuse to see that Trump is an unfit, incompetent crook. Go move to a country with an authoritarian dictatorship because that's apparently where you'd be happiest.


(in a whisper voice)......Trump is less authoritarian than Obama was.


Why are you whispering? Because you don't want to embarrass yourself?

Today was actually a red letter day in Trump's Imperial Presidency -

*Jared Kushner, top White House advisor, said the US Government investigation into Russian Government attack on our country was "more harmful" than the attack itself

*WH ordered Carl Kline, the security clearance guy, to ignore a Congressional subpoena to testify, without in even trying to assert any legal justification for the refusal

*IRS did not meet the latest deadline to turn over Trump's taxes, in clear violation of a decades-old statute

*WH announced they plan to fight the Congressional subpoena of Don McGahn -- which is super funny because they already waived privilege

So just today there are four examples of a President and an administration that is now OPENLY MOCKING AND DISREGARDING THE LAW.


Let the Supreme Court decide if the subpoenas are enforceable. Congress believes they are and the Trump administration believes they are not so the final arbiter are the courts.



Based on today's census hearing at SCOTUS, this court, which already had legitimacy issues, is now official part of the kabal.
Anonymous
Post 04/23/2019 18:29     Subject: Re:Impeachment

This article from the Atlantic is pretty damning. He gives details of criminality in here that I had seen before and that I think is not in the M Report. Wow. Every R on this forum should read this with a critical eye. Then chose whether or not to believe the source, but you should read it.

"The president dangled pardons in front of witnesses to encourage them to lie to the special counsel, and directly ordered people to lie to throw the special counsel off the scent.

This elaborate pattern of obstruction may have successfully impeded the Mueller investigation from uncovering a conspiracy to commit more serious crimes."
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/04/gop-staffer-advocates-trumps-impeachment/587785/


Anonymous
Post 04/23/2019 18:23     Subject: Re:Impeachment

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:From a Republican.
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/440160-george-conway-case-for-trumps-impeachment-better-than-nixons

In a series of tweets Tuesday morning, attorney George Conway, husband of White House counselor Kellyanne Conway, said President Trump engaged in misconduct “worse than the misconduct that led to Nixon’s resignation.”

Conway linked to a column by The Washington Post’s Greg Sargent that said alleged attempts by Trump to stymie special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation “impeded the inquiry into not just his conduct, but also into the Russian attack on our political system.”

“Exactly right,” Conway, a frequent Trump critic, wrote Tuesday, citing the president’s oath to “support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic.”


Also, a Never Trumper.
Conway. LOL!


People have a lot of reasons to be Never Trumpers. Conway is a lawyer and he knows his stuff.


Conway wanted to be Solicitor General and he did not get the job.


He didn't want it.


He did not want it after he was rejected!

He didn’t want any job in the administration after Trump fired Comey. And it wasn’t solicitor general, it was AAG for the Civil Division. I know there are a lot of lies you need to keep straight.
Anonymous
Post 04/23/2019 18:16     Subject: Re:Impeachment

Anonymous wrote:With the link this time.
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/04/gop-staffer-advocates-trumps-impeachment/587785/


A Trump transition staffer thinks Trump deserves to be impeached.

The Mueller Report Was My Tipping Point
I was a Trump transition staffer, and I’ve seen enough. It’s time for impeachment.

J. W. Verret
Professor of law at George Mason University Antonin Scalia Law School

Let’s start at the end of this story. This weekend, I read Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s report twice, and realized that enough was enough—I needed to do something. I’ve worked on every Republican presidential transition team for the past 10 years and recently served as counsel to the Republican-led House Financial Services Committee. My permanent job is as a law professor at the George Mason University Antonin Scalia Law School, which is not political, but where my colleagues have held many prime spots in Republican administrations.

If you think calling for the impeachment of a sitting Republican president would constitute career suicide for someone like me, you may end up being right. But I did exactly that this weekend, tweeting that it’s time to begin impeachment proceedings.


Scalia law school is hardly a bastion of liberalism. Yet here's a conservative Republican law professor saying impeachment is the right path.
Anonymous
Post 04/23/2019 18:15     Subject: Re:Impeachment

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:From a Republican.
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/440160-george-conway-case-for-trumps-impeachment-better-than-nixons

In a series of tweets Tuesday morning, attorney George Conway, husband of White House counselor Kellyanne Conway, said President Trump engaged in misconduct “worse than the misconduct that led to Nixon’s resignation.”

Conway linked to a column by The Washington Post’s Greg Sargent that said alleged attempts by Trump to stymie special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation “impeded the inquiry into not just his conduct, but also into the Russian attack on our political system.”

“Exactly right,” Conway, a frequent Trump critic, wrote Tuesday, citing the president’s oath to “support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic.”


Also, a Never Trumper.
Conway. LOL!


People have a lot of reasons to be Never Trumpers. Conway is a lawyer and he knows his stuff.


Conway wanted to be Solicitor General and he did not get the job.


He didn't want it.


He did not want it after he was rejected!


Looks like a smart decision in this ethics challenged administration.
Anonymous
Post 04/23/2019 18:15     Subject: Re:Impeachment

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:From a Republican.
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/440160-george-conway-case-for-trumps-impeachment-better-than-nixons

In a series of tweets Tuesday morning, attorney George Conway, husband of White House counselor Kellyanne Conway, said President Trump engaged in misconduct “worse than the misconduct that led to Nixon’s resignation.”

Conway linked to a column by The Washington Post’s Greg Sargent that said alleged attempts by Trump to stymie special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation “impeded the inquiry into not just his conduct, but also into the Russian attack on our political system.”

“Exactly right,” Conway, a frequent Trump critic, wrote Tuesday, citing the president’s oath to “support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic.”


Also, a Never Trumper.
Conway. LOL!


People have a lot of reasons to be Never Trumpers. Conway is a lawyer and he knows his stuff.


Conway wanted to be Solicitor General and he did not get the job.


He didn't want it.


He did not want it after he was rejected!
Anonymous
Post 04/23/2019 18:14     Subject: Re:Impeachment

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Let's see.

First, it was a recount. Then, it was an invalid election because of the RUSSIANS! Then, there was the hope that he would keel over on his own. There was also the hope that he would resign because the Mueller report would be so bad - remember, he was reported to be the "unindicted coconspirator to at least two felonies." Then, you went to impeachment. Then, the 25th amendment. Now, back to impeachment.

The Democrats have been plotting how to get Trump out of office since before he was inaugurated. Looks like impeachment is your only option at this point. But, here's a dirty little secret, folks. Impeachment will not get him out of office.

So, keep plotting and planning your strategy.
Me? I enjoy reading year-old threads that have not come to fruition with all the conspiracy theories and predictions that never happened.

Like this one: https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/770328.page


And I'm tired of being held hostage by idiots like you and your fellow 37% who refuse to see that Trump is an unfit, incompetent crook. Go move to a country with an authoritarian dictatorship because that's apparently where you'd be happiest.


(in a whisper voice)......Trump is less authoritarian than Obama was.


Why are you whispering? Because you don't want to embarrass yourself?

Today was actually a red letter day in Trump's Imperial Presidency -

*Jared Kushner, top White House advisor, said the US Government investigation into Russian Government attack on our country was "more harmful" than the attack itself

*WH ordered Carl Kline, the security clearance guy, to ignore a Congressional subpoena to testify, without in even trying to assert any legal justification for the refusal

*IRS did not meet the latest deadline to turn over Trump's taxes, in clear violation of a decades-old statute

*WH announced they plan to fight the Congressional subpoena of Don McGahn -- which is super funny because they already waived privilege

So just today there are four examples of a President and an administration that is now OPENLY MOCKING AND DISREGARDING THE LAW.


Let the Supreme Court decide if the subpoenas are enforceable. Congress believes they are and the Trump administration believes they are not so the final arbiter are the courts.
Anonymous
Post 04/23/2019 18:14     Subject: Re:Impeachment

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:From a Republican.
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/440160-george-conway-case-for-trumps-impeachment-better-than-nixons

In a series of tweets Tuesday morning, attorney George Conway, husband of White House counselor Kellyanne Conway, said President Trump engaged in misconduct “worse than the misconduct that led to Nixon’s resignation.”

Conway linked to a column by The Washington Post’s Greg Sargent that said alleged attempts by Trump to stymie special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation “impeded the inquiry into not just his conduct, but also into the Russian attack on our political system.”

“Exactly right,” Conway, a frequent Trump critic, wrote Tuesday, citing the president’s oath to “support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic.”


Also, a Never Trumper.
Conway. LOL!


People have a lot of reasons to be Never Trumpers. Conway is a lawyer and he knows his stuff.


Conway wanted to be Solicitor General and he did not get the job.


He didn't want it.
Anonymous
Post 04/23/2019 18:12     Subject: Re:Impeachment

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:From a Republican.
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/440160-george-conway-case-for-trumps-impeachment-better-than-nixons

In a series of tweets Tuesday morning, attorney George Conway, husband of White House counselor Kellyanne Conway, said President Trump engaged in misconduct “worse than the misconduct that led to Nixon’s resignation.”

Conway linked to a column by The Washington Post’s Greg Sargent that said alleged attempts by Trump to stymie special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation “impeded the inquiry into not just his conduct, but also into the Russian attack on our political system.”

“Exactly right,” Conway, a frequent Trump critic, wrote Tuesday, citing the president’s oath to “support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic.”


Also, a Never Trumper.
Conway. LOL!


People have a lot of reasons to be Never Trumpers. Conway is a lawyer and he knows his stuff.


Conway wanted to be Solicitor General and he did not get the job.
Anonymous
Post 04/23/2019 18:12     Subject: Re:Impeachment

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:From a Republican.
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/440160-george-conway-case-for-trumps-impeachment-better-than-nixons

In a series of tweets Tuesday morning, attorney George Conway, husband of White House counselor Kellyanne Conway, said President Trump engaged in misconduct “worse than the misconduct that led to Nixon’s resignation.”

Conway linked to a column by The Washington Post’s Greg Sargent that said alleged attempts by Trump to stymie special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation “impeded the inquiry into not just his conduct, but also into the Russian attack on our political system.”

“Exactly right,” Conway, a frequent Trump critic, wrote Tuesday, citing the president’s oath to “support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic.”


Also, a Never Trumper.
Conway. LOL!


Conway wanted to be Solicitor General and he did not get the job.

People have a lot of reasons to be Never Trumpers. Conway is a lawyer and he knows his stuff.
Anonymous
Post 04/23/2019 18:08     Subject: Re:Impeachment

With the link this time.
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/04/gop-staffer-advocates-trumps-impeachment/587785/


A Trump transition staffer thinks Trump deserves to be impeached.

The Mueller Report Was My Tipping Point
I was a Trump transition staffer, and I’ve seen enough. It’s time for impeachment.

J. W. Verret
Professor of law at George Mason University Antonin Scalia Law School

Let’s start at the end of this story. This weekend, I read Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s report twice, and realized that enough was enough—I needed to do something. I’ve worked on every Republican presidential transition team for the past 10 years and recently served as counsel to the Republican-led House Financial Services Committee. My permanent job is as a law professor at the George Mason University Antonin Scalia Law School, which is not political, but where my colleagues have held many prime spots in Republican administrations.

If you think calling for the impeachment of a sitting Republican president would constitute career suicide for someone like me, you may end up being right. But I did exactly that this weekend, tweeting that it’s time to begin impeachment proceedings.
Anonymous
Post 04/23/2019 18:07     Subject: Re:Impeachment

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:From a Republican.
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/440160-george-conway-case-for-trumps-impeachment-better-than-nixons

In a series of tweets Tuesday morning, attorney George Conway, husband of White House counselor Kellyanne Conway, said President Trump engaged in misconduct “worse than the misconduct that led to Nixon’s resignation.”

Conway linked to a column by The Washington Post’s Greg Sargent that said alleged attempts by Trump to stymie special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation “impeded the inquiry into not just his conduct, but also into the Russian attack on our political system.”

“Exactly right,” Conway, a frequent Trump critic, wrote Tuesday, citing the president’s oath to “support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic.”


Truth from Mr. Kellyanne.


A Trump transition staffer thinks Trump deserves to be impeached.

The Mueller Report Was My Tipping Point
I was a Trump transition staffer, and I’ve seen enough. It’s time for impeachment.

J. W. Verret
Professor of law at George Mason University Antonin Scalia Law School

Let’s start at the end of this story. This weekend, I read Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s report twice, and realized that enough was enough—I needed to do something. I’ve worked on every Republican presidential transition team for the past 10 years and recently served as counsel to the Republican-led House Financial Services Committee. My permanent job is as a law professor at the George Mason University Antonin Scalia Law School, which is not political, but where my colleagues have held many prime spots in Republican administrations.

If you think calling for the impeachment of a sitting Republican president would constitute career suicide for someone like me, you may end up being right. But I did exactly that this weekend, tweeting that it’s time to begin impeachment proceedings.

Anonymous
Post 04/23/2019 18:07     Subject: Impeachment

All of this evasion by the Administration is impeachable. It is an embarrassment to the world and an affront to our Constitution.

Anonymous
Post 04/23/2019 18:04     Subject: Re:Impeachment

There is no question that Trump deserves impeachment, for obstruction of justice if nothing else. But there is so much else that hasn’t been fully explored - Trump’s suspect visits with Putin (which no one is allowed to record or speak about), his financial ties to Russia, Kushner’s financial bailouts (which I find especially egregious), the attempted back channel communications with Russia, violations of the emoluments clause, and on and on. The country seems to think that all investigatory activity ended with the Mueller report, which mostly ends at the election. But Trump has had two years since then to sell out our country. The Trump cult insists that the dozens if not hundreds of highly questionable actions that Trump has taken as President are figments of our imaginations or just coincidences, when it’s obvious to any thinking person that they are not. Hell, Trump doesn’t even try hard to hide it.

But I’m conflicted about impeachment. I have no question that it’s the right and necessary thing to do, but I’m uncertain about the political implications. I’ve read everything I can on both sides, and I’m more confused now than ever. Unfortunately, a large part of our country is so purposefully ignorant and, frankly stupid, that if the argument for impeachment can’t be reduced to a catchy soundbite or physical proof of treason, then they won’t buy it.