Does it seem like center schools have a lot more of their second graders going into AAP than regular old schools?

We are a center with 2% Free/reduced and last year we had 27 kids go to AAP out of 94.

Anonymous wrote:I'm surprised at the high ratios people are reporting. Those are kids who got in through scores like the OP suggested? In my son's grade (he's in 3rd this year), they had 4 get into AAP. I know two of the families personally, though, and those two appealed/did a referral. I don't know if the other two got in by scores.

I have a hard time believing 30/100 kids are "gifted".

Our AART seems great and our school is beloved by everyone I know who goes there. It does have a 25% FARMS rate.

Our school had about 70 second graders, the 4 ended up getting in. We are not a center and don't have local level IV. As I said above, 25% FARMS.

I don't think a single person appealed by doing outside testing. I think parents are just happy with our school. I know 3 families personally who have children who got into AAP and chose not to switch to the center school (from different years than my son's second grade class that I gave the numbers on).

I fell like, again, it just goes to show that it's a really flawed program. There's no way there's that big a discrepancy between schools in terms of actual scholastic aptitude.

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Anonymous wrote:We were told about 30 out of 100 were accepted into AAP at our school.

. Is your school a center? That is a ton and seriously, how can one school have 30 % "gifted" kids and OP's school just have 1 sad little lonely guy? The whole thing is ridiculous.
The most important factor seem to be how good the second grade teachers and AART are at a particular school in getting kids packages together.

No, we are not a center.

Local level 4? Or is there probably a directly line between FARMS rate at a school and few vs. many acceptances?

Yes, Local Level 4 and about 10% FARM rate.

Our school is about 45% FARMs and only had 4 accepted out of around 95 second graders. I know some parents are appealing.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm surprised at the high ratios people are reporting. Those are kids who got in through scores like the OP suggested? In my son's grade (he's in 3rd this year), they had 4 get into AAP. I know two of the families personally, though, and those two appealed/did a referral. I don't know if the other two got in by scores.

I have a hard time believing 30/100 kids are "gifted".

Our AART seems great and our school is beloved by everyone I know who goes there. It does have a 25% FARMS rate.

Last year, 30 out of 90-some got in on first round from our school (not sure how many files were actually submitted - that's the whole grade). Not sure about this year - waiting to hear the number.

This is the same as our school (a center). But I know that almost all of the 2nd grade parents at our school will do a referral if their kids are not in-pool.

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Anonymous wrote:We were told about 30 out of 100 were accepted into AAP at our school.

. Is your school a center? That is a ton and seriously, how can one school have 30 % "gifted" kids and OP's school just have 1 sad little lonely guy? The whole thing is ridiculous.
The most important factor seem to be how good the second grade teachers and AART are at a particular school in getting kids packages together.

No, we are not a center.

Local level 4? Or is there probably a directly line between FARMS rate at a school and few vs. many acceptances?

This 100% and of course AAP acceptance is very important in some communities and their kid study for the tests for years, etc. If 30% of the school gets in to AAP, of course there is way more pressure to get your kid in as well.

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Anonymous wrote:We were told about 30 out of 100 were accepted into AAP at our school.

. Is your school a center? That is a ton and seriously, how can one school have 30 % "gifted" kids and OP's school just have 1 sad little lonely guy? The whole thing is ridiculous.
The most important factor seem to be how good the second grade teachers and AART are at a particular school in getting kids packages together.

No, we are not a center.

Local level 4? Or is there probably a directly line between FARMS rate at a school and few vs. many acceptances?

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Anonymous wrote:We were told about 30 out of 100 were accepted into AAP at our school.

. Is your school a center? That is a ton and seriously, how can one school have 30 % "gifted" kids and OP's school just have 1 sad little lonely guy? The whole thing is ridiculous.
The most important factor seem to be how good the second grade teachers and AART are at a particular school in getting kids packages together.

No, we are not a center.

Just to clarify, I meant 100 out of the entire 2nd grade population. That is not the number referred.

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Anonymous wrote:We were told about 30 out of 100 were accepted into AAP at our school.

. Is your school a center? That is a ton and seriously, how can one school have 30 % "gifted" kids and OP's school just have 1 sad little lonely guy? The whole thing is ridiculous.
The most important factor seem to be how good the second grade teachers and AART are at a particular school in getting kids packages together.

No, we are not a center.

Do more kids get in at center schools or schools with local level 4 classes than just basic schools? The discrepancy in these numbers is unreal.

I guess if you balance out the 1% schools with the 40% schools you get an average of 15% or so. I think most of us hearing that stat assumed it was about 15% *from each school*. Not half the class at one school and one child from another school.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm surprised at the high ratios people are reporting. Those are kids who got in through scores like the OP suggested? In my son's grade (he's in 3rd this year), they had 4 get into AAP. I know two of the families personally, though, and those two appealed/did a referral. I don't know if the other two got in by scores.

I have a hard time believing 30/100 kids are "gifted".

Our AART seems great and our school is beloved by everyone I know who goes there. It does have a 25% FARMS rate.

Last year, 30 out of 90-some got in on first round from our school (not sure how many files were actually submitted - that's the whole grade). Not sure about this year - waiting to hear the number.

Wow. Does anyone else think its so crazy to have 40% from one school and 1% from another school?

Yes, it’s crazy! I’m the OP of this post. One thing is that families love our school - I wonder if we just don’t have many families that do anything past the testing at school? I know a few families that put the parent referral packet together but not many.

Yes. I agree with pp who said what seemed to matter most was the individual school staff. Especially since OP's ds had classmates who were rejected in-pool.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm surprised at the high ratios people are reporting. Those are kids who got in through scores like the OP suggested? In my son's grade (he's in 3rd this year), they had 4 get into AAP. I know two of the families personally, though, and those two appealed/did a referral. I don't know if the other two got in by scores.

I have a hard time believing 30/100 kids are "gifted".

Our AART seems great and our school is beloved by everyone I know who goes there. It does have a 25% FARMS rate.

Last year, 30 out of 90-some got in on first round from our school (not sure how many files were actually submitted - that's the whole grade). Not sure about this year - waiting to hear the number.

Wow. Does anyone else think its so crazy to have 40% from one school and 1% from another school?