Anonymous
04/16/2019 13:20
Subject: Eaton renovation
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:55 to 60 percent of Eaton students don’t love on the boundary area.
Nope. Less than 40% OOB.
40 percent is still a lot for a neighborhood school, and means a lot of vehicle trips.
So let's get DCPS to "right size" the school through the renovation. They could adjust the number down, scale down the renovation (preserve the playground) and make it more of a neighborhood school. And this would help with overcrowding at Wilson down the line.
Parents would not resist.
But of course, logic is not part of the DCPS equation.
You must be new here. DCPS actually wants to expand enrollment (though not as much as they wanted at first) to maintain a lot of lottery spots at Eaton.
Anonymous
04/16/2019 13:18
Subject: Eaton renovation
Anonymous wrote:As someone who drives past Eaton every day at rush hour (morning) I have no idea what the problem is --- unless this is a parking problem and not a traffic problem.
Sure traffic is slow past the school, as it should be, but it isn't slower than on CT ave. Drop off happens during morning rush hour so there is more congestion for a short period of time. 8:15-8:45. Sometimes the back up can be to Porter but 99% of the time it really is only the block before Eaton.
So this is really just a parking problem. Traffic/congestion is just a red herring.
Drop off is along Lowell (with cars on 33rd Pl), so you don’t see it. Only a crazy parent would drop off on busy 34th St. The latter may be slow at morning rush hour but at other times of the day, speeding traffic can be a safety concern.
Anonymous
04/16/2019 12:35
Subject: Eaton renovation
Why is Eaton getting renovated now anyway? They are much lower on the priority list than some of the other schools pending renovation. Maybe Eaton should be deferred until proper funds can be identified in the right priority.
Anonymous
04/16/2019 11:20
Subject: Re:Eaton renovation
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Eaton’s neighbors want the parking problem solved and have had it with the illegal sharing of residential parking passes with favored Eaton staff. That “fix” won’t last much longer, and the lack of staff parking will become even more acute.
Eaton’s neighbors want the parking problem solved and have had it with the illegal sharing of residential parking passes with favored Eaton staff. That “fix” won’t last much longer, and the lack of staff parking will become even more acute.
Untrue that the practice of using RPP is illegal. This was the solution Eaton was told to use by Mary Cheh's office and DDOT.
What is true is that the Eaton community agrees that this is flimsy solution. Eaton would like the same consideration given to Murch, Janney and other Ward 3 schools.
Anonymous
04/16/2019 11:20
Subject: Eaton renovation
As someone who drives past Eaton every day at rush hour (morning) I have no idea what the problem is --- unless this is a parking problem and not a traffic problem.
Sure traffic is slow past the school, as it should be, but it isn't slower than on CT ave. Drop off happens during morning rush hour so there is more congestion for a short period of time. 8:15-8:45. Sometimes the back up can be to Porter but 99% of the time it really is only the block before Eaton.
So this is really just a parking problem. Traffic/congestion is just a red herring.
Sure traffic is slow past the school, as it should be, but it isn't slower than on CT ave. Drop off happens during morning rush hour so there is more congestion for a short period of time. 8:15-8:45. Sometimes the back up can be to Porter but 99% of the time it really is only the block before Eaton.
So this is really just a parking problem. Traffic/congestion is just a red herring.
Anonymous
04/16/2019 11:16
Subject: Eaton renovation
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:55 to 60 percent of Eaton students don’t love on the boundary area.
Nope. Less than 40% OOB.
40 percent is still a lot for a neighborhood school, and means a lot of vehicle trips.
So let's get DCPS to "right size" the school through the renovation. They could adjust the number down, scale down the renovation (preserve the playground) and make it more of a neighborhood school. And this would help with overcrowding at Wilson down the line.
Parents would not resist.
But of course, logic is not part of the DCPS equation.
Anonymous
04/16/2019 10:27
Subject: Eaton renovation
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:55 to 60 percent of Eaton students don’t love on the boundary area.
Nope. Less than 40% OOB.
40 percent is still a lot for a neighborhood school, and means a lot of vehicle trips.
Anonymous
04/16/2019 07:26
Subject: Eaton renovation
Anonymous wrote:55 to 60 percent of Eaton students don’t love on the boundary area.
Nope. Less than 40% OOB.
Anonymous
04/16/2019 06:57
Subject: Eaton renovation
Eaton may be a DCPS school in Ward 3 but it’s not really a Ward 3 school. That’s why CM Cheh won’t use her political capital to get more money for things like parking, the way she did with schools that educate the children of more of her constituents.
Anonymous
04/15/2019 20:49
Subject: Eaton renovation
When is the next planned community meeting?
Anonymous
04/15/2019 20:05
Subject: Re:Eaton renovation
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:^^public transportation to Eaton is not easy
Huh???? Cleveland Park Metro Stop is a stone throw away. It's VERY easy.
You can throw a stone 0.7 miles?
It’s a 15-20 minute walk, which is not insignificant after whatever commute is involved in getting to CP Metro, particularly in pouring rain or extreme cold.
15 minutes is not that long. Cry me a river.
On a nice day for somebody in good health, it’s not that long of a walk and actually rather pleasant. For anybody with mobility issues or poor health, walking half a mile up hill is not easy. Add in any inclement weather and it gets even harder.
I understand the site restrictions and honestly, I’d rather have an awesome underground multi-purpose room than parking, but the parking situation needs to be addressed. If not through underground parking then through re-zoning, passes, whatever. Teachers and staff will keep driving and parking in the neighborhood.
Eaton’s neighbors want the parking problem solved and have had it with the illegal sharing of residential parking passes with favored Eaton staff. That “fix” won’t last much longer, and the lack of staff parking will become even more acute.
Anonymous
04/15/2019 20:01
Subject: Re:Eaton renovation
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Murch parent, if there were cost overruns that's a separate issue. However, parking always pays off...what about for assemblies and gatherings etc?
This city needs as much parking as possible. The areas with limited parking are miserable places to be.
I would be wrong but I don't think that the Murch garage is open to parents or other folks in the evenings or weekends. Just to the few teachers and staff that got parking passes. So not sure how it pays off.
Murch parent here. You are absolutely correct. We still get to park on the street (or walk) like we always did.
The way parking pays off is that you aren’t unnecessarily hindered in recruiting teachers.
I don’t think that the reason that Eaton can’t compete with Janney and Murch is because of parking!
Anonymous
04/15/2019 19:58
Subject: Eaton renovation
55 to 60 percent of Eaton students don’t love on the boundary area.
Anonymous
04/15/2019 19:58
Subject: Re:Eaton renovation
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:^^public transportation to Eaton is not easy
Huh???? Cleveland Park Metro Stop is a stone throw away. It's VERY easy.
You can throw a stone 0.7 miles?
It’s a 15-20 minute walk, which is not insignificant after whatever commute is involved in getting to CP Metro, particularly in pouring rain or extreme cold.
15 minutes is not that long. Cry me a river.
On a nice day for somebody in good health, it’s not that long of a walk and actually rather pleasant. For anybody with mobility issues or poor health, walking half a mile up hill is not easy. Add in any inclement weather and it gets even harder.
55 to 60 percent of Eaton students don’t love on the boundary area.
I understand the site restrictions and honestly, I’d rather have an awesome underground multi-purpose room than parking, but the parking situation needs to be addressed. If not through underground parking then through re-zoning, passes, whatever. Teachers and staff will keep driving and parking in the neighborhood.
So, nothing is getting taken away from you with this renovation. You have never had parking, but suddenly it's something must have? Mmkkkaayyy
Elementary school children/parents aren't in the category i would worry about walking half a mile. Lots of them live closer than that,
Anonymous
04/15/2019 19:56
Subject: Re:Eaton renovation
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My understanding is that DGS and DCPS will not consider underground parking for renovations currently ongoing or on the docket. The Banneker HS new build at Shaw will not have underground parking either.
I'm not surprised. The price that comes with building these garages is ridiculous. I am a Murch parent who thinks they wasted millions on that garage.
We are not right next to Eaton but cant see how it would increase congestion. Already on a busy road. What this limited parking does do is increase parking woes and wars and discourage car pooling . But then again the city LOVES ticketing for revenue.
I cant understand why faculty would not be given parking passes in any case? Thinking of those bad weather days when someone needs to turn up for work. Is it only Council and Mayor that get to park ANYwhere?
Murch parent, if there were cost overruns that's a separate issue. However, parking always pays off...what about for assemblies and gatherings etc?
This city needs as much parking as possible. The areas with limited parking are miserable places to be.
If DC wants to cut traffic congestion to Eaton, then don’t expand the school, lower the OOB cap every year and encourage kids to walk or bike to school.