Anonymous wrote:Small kitchen, lots of guest rooms, old American cars with some dirt on them. Persian rugs obtained by an older relative whist traveling in Iraq or Yemen in the early 1900s. Vacations include things like helicopter trips to hunt moose or elk, or expeditions on camel with Bedouins. Art includes antiquities, framed handwritten poems signed by Maya Angelou, and mounted heads of animals killed while hunting.

Hunting is not classy. At all.

It seems like a lot of people are confusing"class" with "old money".

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Anonymous wrote:The different definitions of class people are working with here are so interesting.

I know. It's a dichotomy of people thinking that class entails material possessions and others who think that it's one's standards of behavior toward others. The latter is more compelling, IMO.

It's a big mistake to conflate one's social class with their moral goodness. High class just means rich + belonging to the caste of rich people. Not that you're a good person.

Anonymous wrote:The different definitions of class people are working with here are so interesting.

I know. It's a dichotomy of people thinking that class entails material possessions and others who think that it's one's standards of behavior toward others. The latter is more compelling, IMO.

The different definitions of class people are working with here are so interesting.

Anonymous wrote:Small kitchen, lots of guest rooms, old American cars with some dirt on them. Persian rugs obtained by an older relative whist traveling in Iraq or Yemen in the early 1900s. Vacations include things like helicopter trips to hunt moose or elk, or expeditions on camel with Bedouins. Art includes antiquities, framed handwritten poems signed by Maya Angelou, and mounted heads of animals killed while hunting.

Good evening, J. Peterman!

Original art, furniture of many different vintages tastefully assembled (never any matching sets and some things more well-worn than others), extremely high quality rugs (again, possibly some more worn and some newer) are the things I can think of that distinguish old money and new money.

I find the classiest people are not grabby. I know wealthy people who are grabby and it's a major turnoff. The truly classy people I know do not need to grab for stuff and their kids don't grab for stuff. The kids don't need your attention all the time. They get enough attention, so they're calm.

The adults don't need to tell you what they do, who they know, where they went to school.... They are fine with who they are in that moment.

Small kitchen, lots of guest rooms, old American cars with some dirt on them. Persian rugs obtained by an older relative whist traveling in Iraq or Yemen in the early 1900s. Vacations include things like helicopter trips to hunt moose or elk, or expeditions on camel with Bedouins. Art includes antiquities, framed handwritten poems signed by Maya Angelou, and mounted heads of animals killed while hunting.

Anonymous wrote:What are some things you notice in homes that indicate social class? I don’t mean income level, more a sense of social standing. Do you think differently about families with books and a piano in their living room than, say, a big tv and bar cart?

Hmmmm

Anonymous wrote:Others have listed some good points. I will add a well tended garden. Lots of workers who come in and out ( dog walkers, housekeeper, groundskeeper, personal chef).

Hiring everything out doesn't mean you have class. It just means you have a lot of money. Don't confuse the two.

You guys are so crazy. High class people live in all sorts of ways. Some are homeless. SMH.

Others have listed some good points. I will add a well tended garden. Lots of workers who come in and out ( dog walkers, housekeeper, groundskeeper, personal chef).

Anonymous wrote:A fancy maid.

The way how they treat the maid is far more telling than a "fancy" maid. At least in my circle.

Quiet confidence with no acknowledgement of "class" as a social construct.