The push for spreading whites around DCPS in the name of diversity is laughable, pathetic, and just plain ignorant.

Only 10% of DCPS students are white.

What do these fools want, 2-3 white kids in each class at each school? Who will that help?

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Anonymous wrote:I like that way of looking at the possibilities. It’s an easy decision that people will disagree with based on proximity ie segregation.

It is because of the perceived "segregation" in Upper NW that the politicians are never going to narrow the boundaries around Deal and Wilson. This reality means that any "Boundary Review" process will be a puppet show with a lot of noise but no action.

The overcrowding problem at Deal and Wilson won't be fixed because it can't be fixed in the real world that we live in.

I don't know why you put segregation in scare quotes. The city is profoundly residentially segregated. Even if it is no longer explicit government policy, it exists. Residential segregation means the schools are segregated.

The schools in upper NW are actually fairly diverse. It's at the low income areas of the city that the schools are not diverse. I don't think "segregation" is the right word for this situation.

Oh let me guess, European diversity right? Compare those “diversity” numbers with overall population of DC public anxious and say that with a straight face. White kids in DC public are like 10%, but 70% in WOTP. Those gaps aren’t nearly as wide in the “lower income” schools. Even if they have 0% white, it’s only a 10% gap vs a 60-70% gap. But you keep thinking you’re in a diverse suburban utopia.

We're getting a bit off-topic, but just to put reality on the table: Alice Deal middle is 48% white. Hardy middle is 20% white. Wilson is 34% white.
What in the world are you talking about?

Probably the lack of racial diversity at the elementary school level in the upper NW schools.

DP, but I thought it was clear elementary was being referenced. Most are not very racially diverse, especially in the lower grades.

My JKLM had kids from 26 different European countries.

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Anonymous wrote:I like that way of looking at the possibilities. It’s an easy decision that people will disagree with based on proximity ie segregation.

It is because of the perceived "segregation" in Upper NW that the politicians are never going to narrow the boundaries around Deal and Wilson. This reality means that any "Boundary Review" process will be a puppet show with a lot of noise but no action.

The overcrowding problem at Deal and Wilson won't be fixed because it can't be fixed in the real world that we live in.

I don't know why you put segregation in scare quotes. The city is profoundly residentially segregated. Even if it is no longer explicit government policy, it exists. Residential segregation means the schools are segregated.

The schools in upper NW are actually fairly diverse. It's at the low income areas of the city that the schools are not diverse. I don't think "segregation" is the right word for this situation.

Oh let me guess, European diversity right? Compare those “diversity” numbers with overall population of DC public anxious and say that with a straight face. White kids in DC public are like 10%, but 70% in WOTP. Those gaps aren’t nearly as wide in the “lower income” schools. Even if they have 0% white, it’s only a 10% gap vs a 60-70% gap. But you keep thinking you’re in a diverse suburban utopia.

We're getting a bit off-topic, but just to put reality on the table: Alice Deal middle is 48% white. Hardy middle is 20% white. Wilson is 34% white.
What in the world are you talking about?

Probably the lack of racial diversity at the elementary school level in the upper NW schools.

Well, it's DCers on DCUM, so if you gotta complain about race and racism, this is the place. Incidentally, boundary review isn't going to do much to make the white population at some of the elementary schools decrease.

Anyway, the point of the thread I thought was about how to reduce overcrowding with a boundary review process. Being mad about the presence of white people at some of the elementary schools is beside the point.

Anonymous wrote:Maybe NWDC parents can push for equal funding for charters? I have no interest in Deal or any school where OP’s “littles” will attend (barf!) but I do want to put my kids in a charter and would love to have more charter options.

Why should they? And why do you think this would matter? Where is this political influence some people here think these families have?

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Anonymous wrote:I like that way of looking at the possibilities. It’s an easy decision that people will disagree with based on proximity ie segregation.

It is because of the perceived "segregation" in Upper NW that the politicians are never going to narrow the boundaries around Deal and Wilson. This reality means that any "Boundary Review" process will be a puppet show with a lot of noise but no action.

The overcrowding problem at Deal and Wilson won't be fixed because it can't be fixed in the real world that we live in.

I don't know why you put segregation in scare quotes. The city is profoundly residentially segregated. Even if it is no longer explicit government policy, it exists. Residential segregation means the schools are segregated.

The schools in upper NW are actually fairly diverse. It's at the low income areas of the city that the schools are not diverse. I don't think "segregation" is the right word for this situation.

Oh let me guess, European diversity right? Compare those “diversity” numbers with overall population of DC public anxious and say that with a straight face. White kids in DC public are like 10%, but 70% in WOTP. Those gaps aren’t nearly as wide in the “lower income” schools. Even if they have 0% white, it’s only a 10% gap vs a 60-70% gap. But you keep thinking you’re in a diverse suburban utopia.

We're getting a bit off-topic, but just to put reality on the table: Alice Deal middle is 48% white. Hardy middle is 20% white. Wilson is 34% white.
What in the world are you talking about?

Probably the lack of racial diversity at the elementary school level in the upper NW schools.

DP, but I thought it was clear elementary was being referenced. Most are not very racially diverse, especially in the lower grades.

Another DP - The two NW elementary schools my kids have gone to are wonderfully diverse in terms of having children from all sorts of racial, ethnic, and national backgrounds.

However, to some people in DC, “diverse” does not mean *actually* diverse, but instead means majority AA.

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Anonymous wrote:I like that way of looking at the possibilities. It’s an easy decision that people will disagree with based on proximity ie segregation.

It is because of the perceived "segregation" in Upper NW that the politicians are never going to narrow the boundaries around Deal and Wilson. This reality means that any "Boundary Review" process will be a puppet show with a lot of noise but no action.

The overcrowding problem at Deal and Wilson won't be fixed because it can't be fixed in the real world that we live in.

I don't know why you put segregation in scare quotes. The city is profoundly residentially segregated. Even if it is no longer explicit government policy, it exists. Residential segregation means the schools are segregated.

The schools in upper NW are actually fairly diverse. It's at the low income areas of the city that the schools are not diverse. I don't think "segregation" is the right word for this situation.

Oh let me guess, European diversity right? Compare those “diversity” numbers with overall population of DC public anxious and say that with a straight face. White kids in DC public are like 10%, but 70% in WOTP. Those gaps aren’t nearly as wide in the “lower income” schools. Even if they have 0% white, it’s only a 10% gap vs a 60-70% gap. But you keep thinking you’re in a diverse suburban utopia.

We're getting a bit off-topic, but just to put reality on the table: Alice Deal middle is 48% white. Hardy middle is 20% white. Wilson is 34% white.
What in the world are you talking about?

Probably the lack of racial diversity at the elementary school level in the upper NW schools.

DP, but I thought it was clear elementary was being referenced. Most are not very racially diverse, especially in the lower grades.

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Anonymous wrote:I like that way of looking at the possibilities. It’s an easy decision that people will disagree with based on proximity ie segregation.

It is because of the perceived "segregation" in Upper NW that the politicians are never going to narrow the boundaries around Deal and Wilson. This reality means that any "Boundary Review" process will be a puppet show with a lot of noise but no action.

The overcrowding problem at Deal and Wilson won't be fixed because it can't be fixed in the real world that we live in.

I don't know why you put segregation in scare quotes. The city is profoundly residentially segregated. Even if it is no longer explicit government policy, it exists. Residential segregation means the schools are segregated.

The schools in upper NW are actually fairly diverse. It's at the low income areas of the city that the schools are not diverse. I don't think "segregation" is the right word for this situation.

Oh let me guess, European diversity right? Compare those “diversity” numbers with overall population of DC public anxious and say that with a straight face. White kids in DC public are like 10%, but 70% in WOTP. Those gaps aren’t nearly as wide in the “lower income” schools. Even if they have 0% white, it’s only a 10% gap vs a 60-70% gap. But you keep thinking you’re in a diverse suburban utopia.

We're getting a bit off-topic, but just to put reality on the table: Alice Deal middle is 48% white. Hardy middle is 20% white. Wilson is 34% white.
What in the world are you talking about?

Probably the lack of racial diversity at the elementary school level in the upper NW schools.

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Anonymous wrote:I like that way of looking at the possibilities. It’s an easy decision that people will disagree with based on proximity ie segregation.

It is because of the perceived "segregation" in Upper NW that the politicians are never going to narrow the boundaries around Deal and Wilson. This reality means that any "Boundary Review" process will be a puppet show with a lot of noise but no action.

The overcrowding problem at Deal and Wilson won't be fixed because it can't be fixed in the real world that we live in.

I don't know why you put segregation in scare quotes. The city is profoundly residentially segregated. Even if it is no longer explicit government policy, it exists. Residential segregation means the schools are segregated.

The schools in upper NW are actually fairly diverse. It's at the low income areas of the city that the schools are not diverse. I don't think "segregation" is the right word for this situation.

Oh let me guess, European diversity right? Compare those “diversity” numbers with overall population of DC public anxious and say that with a straight face. White kids in DC public are like 10%, but 70% in WOTP. Those gaps aren’t nearly as wide in the “lower income” schools. Even if they have 0% white, it’s only a 10% gap vs a 60-70% gap. But you keep thinking you’re in a diverse suburban utopia.

We're getting a bit off-topic, but just to put reality on the table: Alice Deal middle is 48% white. Hardy middle is 20% white. Wilson is 34% white.
What in the world are you talking about?

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Anonymous wrote:I like that way of looking at the possibilities. It’s an easy decision that people will disagree with based on proximity ie segregation.

It is because of the perceived "segregation" in Upper NW that the politicians are never going to narrow the boundaries around Deal and Wilson. This reality means that any "Boundary Review" process will be a puppet show with a lot of noise but no action.

The overcrowding problem at Deal and Wilson won't be fixed because it can't be fixed in the real world that we live in.

I don't know why you put segregation in scare quotes. The city is profoundly residentially segregated. Even if it is no longer explicit government policy, it exists. Residential segregation means the schools are segregated.

The schools in upper NW are actually fairly diverse. It's at the low income areas of the city that the schools are not diverse. I don't think "segregation" is the right word for this situation.

Oh let me guess, European diversity right? Compare those “diversity” numbers with overall population of DC public anxious and say that with a straight face. White kids in DC public are like 10%, but 70% in WOTP. Those gaps aren’t nearly as wide in the “lower income” schools. Even if they have 0% white, it’s only a 10% gap vs a 60-70% gap. But you keep thinking you’re in a diverse suburban utopia.

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Anonymous wrote:I like that way of looking at the possibilities. It’s an easy decision that people will disagree with based on proximity ie segregation.

It is because of the perceived "segregation" in Upper NW that the politicians are never going to narrow the boundaries around Deal and Wilson. This reality means that any "Boundary Review" process will be a puppet show with a lot of noise but no action.

The overcrowding problem at Deal and Wilson won't be fixed because it can't be fixed in the real world that we live in.

I don't know why you put segregation in scare quotes. The city is profoundly residentially segregated. Even if it is no longer explicit government policy, it exists. Residential segregation means the schools are segregated.

The schools in upper NW are actually fairly diverse. It's at the low income areas of the city that the schools are not diverse. I don't think "segregation" is the right word for this situation.

Maybe NWDC parents can push for equal funding for charters? I have no interest in Deal or any school where OP’s “littles” will attend (barf!) but I do want to put my kids in a charter and would love to have more charter options.

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Anonymous wrote:I like that way of looking at the possibilities. It’s an easy decision that people will disagree with based on proximity ie segregation.

It is because of the perceived "segregation" in Upper NW that the politicians are never going to narrow the boundaries around Deal and Wilson. This reality means that any "Boundary Review" process will be a puppet show with a lot of noise but no action.

The overcrowding problem at Deal and Wilson won't be fixed because it can't be fixed in the real world that we live in.

I don't know why you put segregation in scare quotes. The city is profoundly residentially segregated. Even if it is no longer explicit government policy, it exists. Residential segregation means the schools are segregated.

Anonymous wrote:I’m the last boundary review we were zoned out of preferred schools. It does happen. It also created positive growth at the newly zoned school. Likely a net positive for the system. But it’s not as dramatic of an issue as what’s going on WOTP.

Sure, boundary review will bring changes to zones where there's little political resistance to change -- but in the area we've been talking about (Deal and Wilson boundaries), there is so much political resistance to giving anything favorable to people who live within those boundaries, its a political impossibility.

Though I hadn't heard about the fire marshall having a say. I wonder what DCPS will do if too many students is judged a fire hazard?

I’m the last boundary review we were zoned out of preferred schools. It does happen. It also created positive growth at the newly zoned school. Likely a net positive for the system. But it’s not as dramatic of an issue as what’s going on WOTP.

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Anonymous wrote:I like that way of looking at the possibilities. It’s an easy decision that people will disagree with based on proximity ie segregation.

It is because of the perceived "segregation" in Upper NW that the politicians are never going to narrow the boundaries around Deal and Wilson. This reality means that any "Boundary Review" process will be a puppet show with a lot of noise but no action.

The overcrowding problem at Deal and Wilson won't be fixed because it can't be fixed in the real world that we live in.

It'll get fixed when the fire marshal declares that the enrollment numbers are unsafe. Which will happen soon.