Anonymous
04/04/2019 15:32
Subject: 2019 AAP Results
Is anyone else getting the sense that without the numeric GBRS, the teacher commentary becomes a total mystery? Like if you have a teacher who is great at saving samples and writing commentary, that makes much more of a difference without the numeric number for the committee to look at.
Anonymous
04/04/2019 15:31
Subject: Re:2019 AAP Results
Anonymous wrote:
NNAT: 108
COGAT: (V / Q / NV / Composite) 119/132/124 Composite 130
GBRS: (#Consistent / #Frequent / #Occasional) 2 consistent and 2 frequent
In-Pool: (Y/N) : Y
Parent Referral: (Y/N): Letter only, no work samples
WISC: NO
Zip Code: 22180
AAP Decision: (IN / NOT IN) - IN
I am completely surprised given her test results! I really thought I she would not get in without a WISC test.
Ok, I think your child should be in, but this kid didn't get in??? It just doesn't make logical sense.
NNAT 119
Cogat 132 (v 132 / q 128 / nv 126)
GBRS ?
Not in.
Anonymous
04/04/2019 15:28
Subject: Re:2019 AAP Results
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Out of curiosity, what are the odds of a child who is in the referral pool NOT getting in?
I don't know the odds but my oldest did not initially get into Level 4 when he was in the pool in 2nd grade.
My kid was "in the pool" this year based on her test scores and did not get in. Her older sister had much lower test scores and a lower reading level and was in the first round after I parent-referred. This seems like such a crap shoot.
Anonymous
04/04/2019 15:26
Subject: 2019 AAP Results
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Level 3 is a joke at our school. 1-2 hours a month with a part time art.
exactly. That is why there is such a push to get kids into Level 4 -- b/c there is a cliff b/t level 3 and level 4. It's an "all" or "almost-nothing" situation.
If they are in level 3 plus highest math and highest reading group it shouldn’t be a huge difference.
are you not getting it? Level 3 = 45 min. in ONE subject each quarter for 45 min per week. So, if you are in "Level 3" at my kids' elem. school, and if you are lucky enough to get the pull outs each quarter (that is not guaranteed even if your CogAT is 130), then the most you can get is 45 min (TOTAL) per week for about 6 weeks out of each quarter. I think that IS a "huge difference" compared to fulltime AAP at a center.
The problem at our base school is about 40% of the class is FARMS/ELL who are below grade level. Then the top 10-15% leave for the center. In each classroom, there will only be a few kids left who are even working above grade level at all. Our school shares an AART with another school and i have been told level 3 meets every other week for 45 minutes.
Anonymous
04/04/2019 15:23
Subject: Re:2019 AAP Results
NNAT: 104
COGAT: (V / Q / NV / Composite) 123/124/124 Composite 127
GBRS: (#Consistent / #Frequent / #Occasional) 2 consistent and 2 frequent
In-Pool: (Y/N) : N
Parent Referral: (Y/N): Y
WISC: NO
Zip Code:
AAP Decision: (IN / NOT IN) - NOT IN
COGAT: (V / Q / NV / Composite) 123/124/124 Composite 127
GBRS: (#Consistent / #Frequent / #Occasional) 2 consistent and 2 frequent
In-Pool: (Y/N) : N
Parent Referral: (Y/N): Y
WISC: NO
Zip Code:
AAP Decision: (IN / NOT IN) - NOT IN
Anonymous
04/04/2019 14:55
Subject: 2019 AAP Results
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Level 3 is a joke at our school. 1-2 hours a month with a part time art.
exactly. That is why there is such a push to get kids into Level 4 -- b/c there is a cliff b/t level 3 and level 4. It's an "all" or "almost-nothing" situation.
If they are in level 3 plus highest math and highest reading group it shouldn’t be a huge difference.
are you not getting it? Level 3 = 45 min. in ONE subject each quarter for 45 min per week. So, if you are in "Level 3" at my kids' elem. school, and if you are lucky enough to get the pull outs each quarter (that is not guaranteed even if your CogAT is 130), then the most you can get is 45 min (TOTAL) per week for about 6 weeks out of each quarter. I think that IS a "huge difference" compared to fulltime AAP at a center.
My Level III child gets advanced math every day (which is the same as AAP math), above grade level language arts materials every day along with the other kids in the highest reading group, advanced word study grouping once per week, the 1 hour AAP pull out once/week, and some academic extracurriculars available only to the kids in Level III. I know these services are school-based and not standardized across all FCPS schools, but they ought to be. Level III looks much less dismal when you at least get advanced math, advanced language arts groups, and teachers who differentiate for their strongest students.
My LIV child's AAP center does not offer advanced math to gen ed students at all until 5th or 6th grade, which is a shame for the gen ed kids who are talented in math.
This is the same at my LLIV school. The Level III kids go to the AAP class for math and/or advanced language arts (some kids are both, some only one subject) and get an AAP pullout once a week. And since the AAP kids generally follow the same curriculum as Gen Ed (with the exception of advanced math), it's not a big deal.
Anonymous
04/04/2019 14:54
Subject: 2019 AAP Results
NNAT: 132
COGAT: V 127 Q 148 NV 130 Composite 144
GBRS: 2c/2f
In-Pool: (Y/N) Y
Parent Referral: (Y/N) Y; no work samples, outside recommendation though
WISC: n/a
Zip Code: 22044
AAP Decision: IN
COGAT: V 127 Q 148 NV 130 Composite 144
GBRS: 2c/2f
In-Pool: (Y/N) Y
Parent Referral: (Y/N) Y; no work samples, outside recommendation though
WISC: n/a
Zip Code: 22044
AAP Decision: IN
Anonymous
04/04/2019 14:52
Subject: Re:2019 AAP Results
Yes, in pool. The AART is sending the packet home with my child today.
Anonymous
04/04/2019 14:48
Subject: 2019 AAP Results
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Level 3 is a joke at our school. 1-2 hours a month with a part time art.
exactly. That is why there is such a push to get kids into Level 4 -- b/c there is a cliff b/t level 3 and level 4. It's an "all" or "almost-nothing" situation.
If they are in level 3 plus highest math and highest reading group it shouldn’t be a huge difference.
are you not getting it? Level 3 = 45 min. in ONE subject each quarter for 45 min per week. So, if you are in "Level 3" at my kids' elem. school, and if you are lucky enough to get the pull outs each quarter (that is not guaranteed even if your CogAT is 130), then the most you can get is 45 min (TOTAL) per week for about 6 weeks out of each quarter. I think that IS a "huge difference" compared to fulltime AAP at a center.
My Level III child gets advanced math every day (which is the same as AAP math), above grade level language arts materials every day along with the other kids in the highest reading group, advanced word study grouping once per week, the 1 hour AAP pull out once/week, and some academic extracurriculars available only to the kids in Level III. I know these services are school-based and not standardized across all FCPS schools, but they ought to be. Level III looks much less dismal when you at least get advanced math, advanced language arts groups, and teachers who differentiate for their strongest students.
My LIV child's AAP center does not offer advanced math to gen ed students at all until 5th or 6th grade, which is a shame for the gen ed kids who are talented in math.
Anonymous
04/04/2019 14:47
Subject: Re:2019 AAP Results
Anonymous wrote:NOT IN.
NNAT: 126
COGAT: 137
GBRS: do not know
In-Pool: Yes
Parent Referral: No
WISC: -
Zip Code: 22182
AAP Decision: NOT IN
Wow - that is surprising, given the strong COGAT score. If I were you, I'd be curious to see their package to assess why.
Anonymous
04/04/2019 14:45
Subject: 2019 AAP Results
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Level 3 is a joke at our school. 1-2 hours a month with a part time art.
exactly. That is why there is such a push to get kids into Level 4 -- b/c there is a cliff b/t level 3 and level 4. It's an "all" or "almost-nothing" situation.
If they are in level 3 plus highest math and highest reading group it shouldn’t be a huge difference.
are you not getting it? Level 3 = 45 min. in ONE subject each quarter for 45 min per week. So, if you are in "Level 3" at my kids' elem. school, and if you are lucky enough to get the pull outs each quarter (that is not guaranteed even if your CogAT is 130), then the most you can get is 45 min (TOTAL) per week for about 6 weeks out of each quarter. I think that IS a "huge difference" compared to fulltime AAP at a center.
I suppose schools could do things differently but at our school level III is totally separate weekly pullout in addition to a kid theoretically being in the highest math and highest reading group on a daily basis in the regular class.
Anonymous
04/04/2019 14:43
Subject: Re:2019 AAP Results
NOT IN.
NNAT: 126
COGAT: 137
GBRS: do not know
In-Pool: Yes
Parent Referral: No
WISC: -
Zip Code: 22182
AAP Decision: NOT IN
NNAT: 126
COGAT: 137
GBRS: do not know
In-Pool: Yes
Parent Referral: No
WISC: -
Zip Code: 22182
AAP Decision: NOT IN
Anonymous
04/04/2019 14:42
Subject: Re:2019 AAP Results
NNAT: 108
COGAT: (V / Q / NV / Composite) 119/132/124 Composite 130
GBRS: (#Consistent / #Frequent / #Occasional) 2 consistent and 2 frequent
In-Pool: (Y/N) : Y
Parent Referral: (Y/N): Letter only, no work samples
WISC: NO
Zip Code: 22180
AAP Decision: (IN / NOT IN) - IN
I am completely surprised given her test results! I really thought I she would not get in without a WISC test.
Anonymous
04/04/2019 14:41
Subject: 2019 AAP Results
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Level 3 is a joke at our school. 1-2 hours a month with a part time art.
exactly. That is why there is such a push to get kids into Level 4 -- b/c there is a cliff b/t level 3 and level 4. It's an "all" or "almost-nothing" situation.
If they are in level 3 plus highest math and highest reading group it shouldn’t be a huge difference.
are you not getting it? Level 3 = 45 min. in ONE subject each quarter for 45 min per week. So, if you are in "Level 3" at my kids' elem. school, and if you are lucky enough to get the pull outs each quarter (that is not guaranteed even if your CogAT is 130), then the most you can get is 45 min (TOTAL) per week for about 6 weeks out of each quarter. I think that IS a "huge difference" compared to fulltime AAP at a center.
Anonymous
04/04/2019 14:41
Subject: Re:2019 AAP Results
Anonymous wrote:NNAT 119
Cogat 132 (v 132 / q 128 / nv 126)
GBRS ?
Not in.
I’m thinking about appealing. Do I have to schedule a WISC?
You should get a copy of the packet and look at the GBRS and work samples to get an idea of why your child may not have gotten in. It would give you more info in determining whether or not to consider appealing.