Anonymous wrote:OP here. Again, I'm the friend who would prefer to not visit when she has custody.
As background, I have 4 kids myself - so it's not about not liking or understanding kids or parenting.
Or maybe I've lost perspective since I DO have kids. My friend is a first time mother, and at the point where she doesn't realize, or doesn't want, to multi-task (make the focus not about the toddler). There is a lot of talking in a baby voice and in the third person - ostensibly to the child, but it takes over the conversation in a way I'm not accustomed to.
In other words, my sense is that there's not a total awareness that as much as I like kids and her kid specifically, I am not thrilled making everything revolve around the kid when it doesn't have to..
I know some of these things are first time mom , but t's just a bummer for me as I am not sure I see this changing soon.
Anonymous wrote:Assuming that friend is traveling to see you without her own kids and you have part-time custody of your toddler.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm always intrigued by these kind of posts. I don't quite get it, I guess it's a cultural difference. It's possible to hang out with a friend, have adult conversations and all in the presence of a toddler. If she's a first time mother and very focused on her kid she will talk about the kids anyways whether she's alone with you or not. Kids are part of life people. How can you say someone is your friend but you specifically do not want to get to know their own kid, let alone meet them. I mean, if you see them a lot I get the point of a child-free night out.
Mom of 2yo here. No, it is not possible to enjoy adult conversations with a toddler.
I would try to visit when she does not have custody so you can go out.
I manage. My friends manage. It’s called a play date at the park. Kids play together, with the conversation between adults interrupted every 5-10 minutes for correction. 30 seconds and that particular person is back.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm always intrigued by these kind of posts. I don't quite get it, I guess it's a cultural difference. It's possible to hang out with a friend, have adult conversations and all in the presence of a toddler. If she's a first time mother and very focused on her kid she will talk about the kids anyways whether she's alone with you or not. Kids are part of life people. How can you say someone is your friend but you specifically do not want to get to know their own kid, let alone meet them. I mean, if you see them a lot I get the point of a child-free night out.
Mom of 2yo here. No, it is not possible to enjoy adult conversations with a toddler.
I would try to visit when she does not have custody so you can go out.
Anonymous wrote:I really don't see the harm in your arranging your visit when she doesn't have her kids. Does she gets sad on the days when her kids are with the other parent? You could totally frame is like, "I know sometimes the days when you don't have custody are kind of hard so I thought it would be fun to visit during that time!"
Anonymous wrote:No not at all. There's a time for playdates and there's a time for happy hours and dinners with friends.