Anonymous
Post 03/23/2019 18:40     Subject: Re:B and C Teams - Worth it? Where?

Are there any true development clubs out there or do they all eventually try to attract good players who replace some of the existing teams. Talking about boys. U11-U13

Also, how much to the DA treats cost for the same age group?
Anonymous
Post 03/23/2019 18:30     Subject: B and C Teams - Worth it? Where?

Anonymous wrote:Big clubs traditional screw this up. They constantly loose players because there is no team culture. I'd target a med. size club for B teams because they have stable rosters and solid coaching. They also tend not to treat their B teams as meal tickets.


Any boys names you are willing to share?
Anonymous
Post 03/23/2019 18:27     Subject: Re:B and C Teams - Worth it? Where?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How about a very good A Div 2 boys teams (u11-14)? At our current club, anything below the top team (which is always adding "outside" players, even if they belong primarily to another club) is the equivalent of a B- team with no real support of the administration/coaching staff. Meaning, totally useless to stick around.


You mean at a DA club? So the “A” is the “B”?


Yes. A DA club. The A team is very good, but the next level down is more like a B-/C than a true B
Anonymous
Post 03/23/2019 17:14     Subject: Re:B and C Teams - Worth it? Where?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Both the B and the C girls teams at Stoddert are excellent and a lot of fun. First of all if you miss a practice you either make it up or you get kicked off the team (never seen that happen). The girls are all very dedicated and work hard at practices. Excellent skill work.
The A team at the younger ages is mostly made up of physically large kids. Sure - there’s some attitude from the A team girls and families, but the lower level teams play a good game, are well coached and it’s fun.


Stoddert girls does not have the reputation as being a technical program. You have the part about large physical girls right but the program does not teach technical skills. This really hurts the development of the girls. As for the coaching...have heard very different things from a few parents in a few age groups. You may want to attend a few practices at different clubs to compare programs.


They work on foot skills endlessly, they have whole clinics that meet once a week just to work on shoooting and finishing, they have other specialized clinics just to work on 1 v 1 once a week every week. They have goalie clinics. The girls then have skills homework to do. What else were you looking for?

If it’s how to win a game then no they don’t teach that. They teach skills and then let the girls put it together while they play.


OKay sure. I do not know what age but I will assume it is u12 and under. Stoddert girls are consistently not technical when seen at other programs tryouts and play on the field. The reputation of Stoddert is not technical. I am not saying your girls are bad and am saying they are not technical.

Do you have any exposure to other programs or coaching? Do you understand what technical skill means? Maybe ask around. For the amount of time Stoddert spends at practice, the girls should be much better technically. If you practice that much and consistently use the wrong technique it’s not the fault of the girls. Ever wonder why there are some really good girls from DC who play at BSC, McLean or Arlington but not for Stoddert?

Ask your girl to show you a step over, a scissors, a drag, diagonal cruyff, elastico, maradona, V-Pull, stanley matthews, etc. U10 and up should know/ be familiar with these moves if you are in a technical program. How much does she juggle? Girls at other programs are juggling into the 100’s with the top girls at 300 plus at u11. That’s juggling for almost 5 minutes. The majority on the top team can do at least 50 consistently by the end of u11. One program has a contest for their rising u9 girls. They do this drill.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=b5ClnKlYZw0&t=15s

Most will be able to do it under 3 minutes by the end of the u10 season.

Shooting and finishing sound great but under u12 you should be working on touch, individual ball skills, tight space control and proper technique. Other programs work on 1v1 skills ever practice- that’s for everyone because everyone plays all positions till u11 ish. I am not going to get in a back and forth you. Take your girl to some other programs practices. Get exposure to different coaches. If you are coming from a technical program your girl will fit in. Wish your girl/s all the luck and I hope they have fun.


Again - you have no idea what you are talking about. But still you go on and on...
Anonymous
Post 03/23/2019 15:21     Subject: Re:B and C Teams - Worth it? Where?

BRYC or not BRYC, these 2 response is ridiculous. Even on the A team players 6-25 aren't being treating like gold. They are just maintaining if they aren't getting better outside of club training. If you think the A team coaches are responsible for players 1-5 abilities, you haven't been paying attention to what those players are doing elsewhere. Those A coaches are responsible for spotting talent and putting it together. The minimal amount of technical direction individual players get is not typically game changing for a player, but for a team.


Don't disagree as long as coaches at all levels are spotting talent and putting it together, not spotting talent and putting it together on the A team and accepting money from any player and putting them on a B or C team regardless of talent.

Also, just FYI, some clubs charge the same for A, B, or C teams.
Anonymous
Post 03/23/2019 15:17     Subject: Re:B and C Teams - Worth it? Where?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I know at BRYC if your not an A team your treated like a second class citizen both players and parents. That's why we are moving to another club this spring.


If you are talking about a black or silver team then you shouldn't be complaining because you pay a fraction of what the ECNL teams are paying.


Yes, you should be happy to get the scraps of the BRYC table.
We, the entitled parents who are paying ECNL prices (wait, who's responsible for that choice again?) so decree it.
Our children are better players, and therefore, better people.



BRYC or not BRYC, these 2 response is ridiculous. Even on the A team players 6-25 aren't being treating like gold. They are just maintaining if they aren't getting better outside of club training. If you think the A team coaches are responsible for players 1-5 abilities, you haven't been paying attention to what those players are doing elsewhere. Those A coaches are responsible for spotting talent and putting it together. The minimal amount of technical direction individual players get is not typically game changing for a player, but for a team.

You all will never be happy, not that's a bad thing, but it's pretty unrealistic.
Anonymous
Post 03/23/2019 14:55     Subject: Re:B and C Teams - Worth it? Where?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I know at BRYC if your not an A team your treated like a second class citizen both players and parents. That's why we are moving to another club this spring.


If you are talking about a black or silver team then you shouldn't be complaining because you pay a fraction of what the ECNL teams are paying.


Yes, you should be happy to get the scraps of the BRYC table.
We, the entitled parents who are paying ECNL prices (wait, who's responsible for that choice again?) so decree it.
Our children are better players, and therefore, better people.
Anonymous
Post 03/23/2019 14:39     Subject: Re:B and C Teams - Worth it? Where?

For any B and C team players who want to move up, obviously they should do their best to work their skills on their own. In addition, attending extra training elsewhere is helpful too. And it doesn't have to be private - I can be things like Coerver group training. Not only will extra training boost skills. but the player might also meet coaches (or parents) who can suggest a club that would be a better fit and maybe even arrange an introduction with the coach. Club politics might prevent hard work from being recognized or paying off within the club, but hard work pays off in other ways.
Anonymous
Post 03/23/2019 14:14     Subject: Re:B and C Teams - Worth it? Where?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Kids develop at different ages so "B" and "C" teams are certainly worth your time. The kids still get the life skills of commitment, teamwork, competition, and other non-soccer aspects of life skills. If the kid has the potential athletic ability or desire to play on a top team, choose a "B" or "C" team of a big club that has potential upward mobility so they get to know him or her.


I very much agree with this. I am going to move my kiddo to a team where there is more upward mobility as right now there isn’t any.


Sorry that should have said league not team.


I think you mean club not league.


Ha ha. I do. Thank you
Anonymous
Post 03/23/2019 11:46     Subject: Re:B and C Teams - Worth it? Where?

Anonymous wrote:I know at BRYC if your not an A team your treated like a second class citizen both players and parents. That's why we are moving to another club this spring.


If you are talking about a black or silver team then you shouldn't be complaining because you pay a fraction of what the ECNL teams are paying.
Anonymous
Post 03/23/2019 11:02     Subject: Re:B and C Teams - Worth it? Where?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Kids develop at different ages so "B" and "C" teams are certainly worth your time. The kids still get the life skills of commitment, teamwork, competition, and other non-soccer aspects of life skills. If the kid has the potential athletic ability or desire to play on a top team, choose a "B" or "C" team of a big club that has potential upward mobility so they get to know him or her.


I very much agree with this. I am going to move my kiddo to a team where there is more upward mobility as right now there isn’t any.


Sorry that should have said league not team.


I think you mean club not league.
Anonymous
Post 03/23/2019 10:57     Subject: Re:B and C Teams - Worth it? Where?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Kids develop at different ages so "B" and "C" teams are certainly worth your time. The kids still get the life skills of commitment, teamwork, competition, and other non-soccer aspects of life skills. If the kid has the potential athletic ability or desire to play on a top team, choose a "B" or "C" team of a big club that has potential upward mobility so they get to know him or her.


I very much agree with this. I am going to move my kiddo to a team where there is more upward mobility as right now there isn’t any.


Sorry that should have said league not team.
Anonymous
Post 03/23/2019 10:56     Subject: Re:B and C Teams - Worth it? Where?

Anonymous wrote:Kids develop at different ages so "B" and "C" teams are certainly worth your time. The kids still get the life skills of commitment, teamwork, competition, and other non-soccer aspects of life skills. If the kid has the potential athletic ability or desire to play on a top team, choose a "B" or "C" team of a big club that has potential upward mobility so they get to know him or her.


I very much agree with this. I am going to move my kiddo to a team where there is more upward mobility as right now there isn’t any.
Anonymous
Post 03/23/2019 10:40     Subject: Re:B and C Teams - Worth it? Where?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I know at BRYC if your not an A team your treated like a second class citizen both players and parents. That's why we are moving to another club this spring.


Some of the A team is leaving too. Lack of a schedule is annoying.


What age group are you talking about ? Is this for high school ages in the spring ?
Anonymous
Post 03/22/2019 13:22     Subject: Re:B and C Teams - Worth it? Where?

Kids develop at different ages so "B" and "C" teams are certainly worth your time. The kids still get the life skills of commitment, teamwork, competition, and other non-soccer aspects of life skills. If the kid has the potential athletic ability or desire to play on a top team, choose a "B" or "C" team of a big club that has potential upward mobility so they get to know him or her.