Anonymous
Post 02/26/2019 20:54     Subject: BMW x7 is a bust for families
The best SUV I ever had was the Ford Expedition. Totally loaded. Drove and felt felt like being in a big pillow.

Sadly my kids are grown and I have no use of this type of vehicle.
Anonymous
Post 02/26/2019 20:53     Subject: BMW x7 is a bust for families
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have both and the Highlander is not nearly as nice as a BMW interior. Don’t kid yourself.


Maybe, but the Highlander design for the second row captains seats is much more practical. Plus it comes in a hybrid version. Frankly, people buying these cars have multiple kids and the mess that comes along with kids, food, sports equipment, etc., makes me want to spend less money, not more, for a vehicle purchase.


I’m the pp poster who also has both cars and there really isn’t a difference.
Anonymous
Post 02/26/2019 20:53     Subject: BMW x7 is a bust for families
Anonymous wrote:land cruisers are awesome!

until you hit month 4 or 5 or put 4,000 miles on them.

then they are awesome sitting in the shop with "electrical anomalies" or whatever BS they call poor engineering.


I thought toyotas were very good on maintenance?! are you talking about Range Rovers??
Anonymous
Post 02/26/2019 20:49     Subject: BMW x7 is a bust for families
Looks like a copy of the xc90
Anonymous
Post 02/26/2019 20:43     Subject: BMW x7 is a bust for families
land cruisers are awesome!

until you hit month 4 or 5 or put 4,000 miles on them.

then they are awesome sitting in the shop with "electrical anomalies" or whatever BS they call poor engineering.
Anonymous
Post 02/26/2019 17:22     Subject: BMW x7 is a bust for families
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The X7 is a GLS competitor. People have expectations of being able to move between the rows like they’re in an airplane aisle which is kind of unrealistic.

The X7 interior is as good as it gets unless you want to spend $100k+

https://www.caranddriver.com/photos/g23792370/2019-bmw-x7-suv-photos-info-gallery/


This. And if there was that much interior space, it would necessitate a significantly wider, taller, and longer SUV. Then people would be bitching about the X7 is "soooooo huge. I hate it!"

BMW can't win.


This is OP. I just looked at Land Cruiser and I like it. It is roomier and easy to get to third row, but it's not as big as a suburban. And it feels luxury and is not a minivan. It checks my boxes.


Land Cruiser doesn't come with captains chairs and also has a fold-down second row like the X7? Glad you found something but your requirements make no sense.


it's much different. land cruiser second row folds down flat horizontally and then up again vertically so there is TONS of room to get to third row. BMW is a squeeze to get through. even for a child it was tight! Read the reviews on land cruiser access to third row and then you will see. or go check one out! I checked both the x7 and the land cruiser out this week and they are much different. the land cruiser has a lot more room and much easier access to third row. You are correct that it does not have captain's chairs which would be ideal but it's still a lot better than x7. This video is painfully long but you can see what I mean at the 3:37 time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qpgOaml5dg
Anonymous
Post 02/26/2019 14:42     Subject: BMW x7 is a bust for families
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The X7 is a GLS competitor. People have expectations of being able to move between the rows like they’re in an airplane aisle which is kind of unrealistic.

The X7 interior is as good as it gets unless you want to spend $100k+

https://www.caranddriver.com/photos/g23792370/2019-bmw-x7-suv-photos-info-gallery/


This. And if there was that much interior space, it would necessitate a significantly wider, taller, and longer SUV. Then people would be bitching about the X7 is "soooooo huge. I hate it!"

BMW can't win.


This is OP. I just looked at Land Cruiser and I like it. It is roomier and easy to get to third row, but it's not as big as a suburban. And it feels luxury and is not a minivan. It checks my boxes.


Land Cruiser doesn't come with captains chairs and also has a fold-down second row like the X7? Glad you found something but your requirements make no sense.
Anonymous
Post 02/26/2019 13:06     Subject: BMW x7 is a bust for families
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The X7 is a GLS competitor. People have expectations of being able to move between the rows like they’re in an airplane aisle which is kind of unrealistic.

The X7 interior is as good as it gets unless you want to spend $100k+

https://www.caranddriver.com/photos/g23792370/2019-bmw-x7-suv-photos-info-gallery/


This. And if there was that much interior space, it would necessitate a significantly wider, taller, and longer SUV. Then people would be bitching about the X7 is "soooooo huge. I hate it!"

BMW can't win.


This is OP. I just looked at Land Cruiser and I like it. It is roomier and easy to get to third row, but it's not as big as a suburban. And it feels luxury and is not a minivan. It checks my boxes.
Anonymous
Post 02/26/2019 12:11     Subject: BMW x7 is a bust for families
Anonymous wrote:I have both and the Highlander is not nearly as nice as a BMW interior. Don’t kid yourself.


Maybe, but the Highlander design for the second row captains seats is much more practical. Plus it comes in a hybrid version. Frankly, people buying these cars have multiple kids and the mess that comes along with kids, food, sports equipment, etc., makes me want to spend less money, not more, for a vehicle purchase.
Anonymous
Post 02/26/2019 10:48     Subject: BMW x7 is a bust for families
Anonymous wrote:The X7 is a GLS competitor. People have expectations of being able to move between the rows like they’re in an airplane aisle which is kind of unrealistic.

The X7 interior is as good as it gets unless you want to spend $100k+

https://www.caranddriver.com/photos/g23792370/2019-bmw-x7-suv-photos-info-gallery/


This. And if there was that much interior space, it would necessitate a significantly wider, taller, and longer SUV. Then people would be bitching about the X7 is "soooooo huge. I hate it!"

BMW can't win.
Anonymous
Post 02/25/2019 23:18     Subject: BMW x7 is a bust for families
The X7 is a GLS competitor. People have expectations of being able to move between the rows like they’re in an airplane aisle which is kind of unrealistic.

The X7 interior is as good as it gets unless you want to spend $100k+

https://www.caranddriver.com/photos/g23792370/2019-bmw-x7-suv-photos-info-gallery/
Anonymous
Post 02/25/2019 20:56     Subject: BMW x7 is a bust for families
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Tesla X with captain’s chairs in 2nd row. My kids can walk right between them to the 3rd row. I can also move the 2nd row seats even with car seats in them. It’s awesome!


this is good to know! thanks


Until you die

https://electrek.co/2019/02/25/tesla-crash-burning-car-door-handles/
Anonymous
Post 02/25/2019 20:55     Subject: BMW x7 is a bust for families
Anonymous wrote:Tesla X with captain’s chairs in 2nd row. My kids can walk right between them to the 3rd row. I can also move the 2nd row seats even with car seats in them. It’s awesome!


this is good to know! thanks
Anonymous
Post 02/25/2019 20:51     Subject: BMW x7 is a bust for families
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Nooooooooo. I have been tracking the X7 for over 2 years since it was in pre-production. Are you kidding me?? I totally thought this was going to be the answer to what I wanted, which is exactly the same as what you wanted.

I appreciate everyone else's suggestions - Highlander, Acadia, etc but I want a luxury car. What luxury SUV can do this?


What you are describing is very much a first world problem. You can just buy it and live with it. You will get used to it.


Yeah. I don't get it. What's the big deal? You load the third row first then the second row. If kids are old enough to just climb into the backseat, they're old enough to lift the seat to get out

Plan where everybody sits based on order of dropoff or pickup. We do this and it is quick and efficient.

I'm really struggling to see the "problem."


anyone considering buying this car realizes it is a first world problem. It's just that we have choices and it's disappointing that you can't get to the third row from the second row. I have a bmw x5 with a third row currently. I am well aware of kids climbing over the seat...trying to squeeze into the third row by moving second row up ( with car seats) and entering and exiting through the trunk. It sucks! This is why moms like captain's chairs! we want easy and fast and we don't want muddy footprints on the second row seats. other car companies seem to understand that this is what families want. I'm disappointed that BMW does not have this option. I'm going to be ok though! I will just move on to another car.


No it really doesn't suck.

It is just that Americans are stupid and susceptible to marketing and on top of that whine about pretty simple things like making their kids climb over a seat.

You don't even see BWM or Porsche SUV's in Germany but both companies are glad to cash in on Americans stupidity.

Just get a damn Minivan and drop the pretentiousness. The performance of a BWM is completely wasted sitting in traffic around here - if you want people to know that you are wealthy pass around your pay slip but most people don't care.
Anonymous
Post 02/25/2019 20:39     Subject: BMW x7 is a bust for families
Tesla X with captain’s chairs in 2nd row. My kids can walk right between them to the 3rd row. I can also move the 2nd row seats even with car seats in them. It’s awesome!