Anonymous
Post 02/23/2019 18:07     Subject: Should a student, in general go to a college in the state/area where they want to end up?
It just depends OP; if you are going to be a teacher, it makes more sense to get a less expensive degree. If they hate an area, it doesn't make sense to go to college there, unless there is no other choice.

For teachers it makes more sense to get a less expensive degree at least near an area they might plan to teach, so they can make connections student teaching. But, many people can move around, as long as they are ok with meeting different teaching requirements. As a future teacher, it might make more sense to go to the most affordable place and investigate requirements where DD thinks she might want to eventually live.
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2019 18:00     Subject: Re:Should a student, in general go to a college in the state/area where they want to end up?
Most teachers in MD need to get master's degrees
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2019 17:45     Subject: Should a student, in general go to a college in the state/area where they want to end up?
Anonymous wrote:I worked in admissions before grad school and people are clueless about just how low admissions will stoop for minority kids. It was shocking. And the biggest beneficiaries are well off minorities with six-figure income parents, who attended good high schools.

Michelle Obama’s dad made six figures. As did AOC’s dad.


Where did you read this? No where in her book did they say that they were wealthy. In fact, her family lived on the second floor of her Aunt's house and he died her father died in his 50s.
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2019 17:13     Subject: Should a student, in general go to a college in the state/area where they want to end up?
Anonymous wrote:My friend wants his daughter to attend Rice because he knows she won't want to stay in Houston.

Houston is one of the most diverse cities in the country, booming economy, growing quickly, etc.

Your friend sounds close-minded.
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2019 16:54     Subject: Re:Should a student, in general go to a college in the state/area where they want to end up?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP, you say she won't go to grad school, but if she wants to be a teacher then an MA is a good idea. She should probably pick a grad program in the state where she wants to work, rather than picking undergrad based on the state where she wants to work.


Who the heck would pay for a master for a job that doesn't pay for your degree or give you much of an increase for that degree.


Teachers generally get masters degrees.

You can calm down now.
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2019 16:53     Subject: Should a student, in general go to a college in the state/area where they want to end up?
How can you expect a kid who is all of 18 and may have lived in one place to have a great idea of where they want to settle?

It just can't be reasonable to assume nothing will happen. No growth, no change, no new ideas, no new people.

Anonymous
Post 02/23/2019 16:22     Subject: Should a student, in general go to a college in the state/area where they want to end up?
My friend wants his daughter to attend Rice because he knows she won't want to stay in Houston.
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2019 16:13     Subject: Should a student, in general go to a college in the state/area where they want to end up?
Anonymous wrote:Only crummy schools are regional. The top 20, top LACs, and top engineering powers send kids all over.

Yes, every school outside the top 20 is “crummy.” There are 4600 four year colleges in the US. 99.9% of them suck
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2019 09:09     Subject: Should a student, in general go to a college in the state/area where they want to end up?
Only crummy schools are regional. The top 20, top LACs, and top engineering powers send kids all over.
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2019 08:17     Subject: Should a student, in general go to a college in the state/area where they want to end up?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I went to Arizona State and never had a job in AZ. My jobs were here, San Diego, and Palo Alto.


Kind of proves the point. Schools mostly have a regional reach. ASU sends a lot of grads to California. But it's right next door. ASU doesn't send a lot of grads to Chicago.


+1 And when I was in HS in CA, lots of my classmates went to ASU (and then came back to CA after graduation)
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2019 01:07     Subject: Re:Should a student, in general go to a college in the state/area where they want to end up?
Anonymous wrote:OP, you say she won't go to grad school, but if she wants to be a teacher then an MA is a good idea. She should probably pick a grad program in the state where she wants to work, rather than picking undergrad based on the state where she wants to work.


Who the heck would pay for a master for a job that doesn't pay for your degree or give you much of an increase for that degree.
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2019 01:05     Subject: Should a student, in general go to a college in the state/area where they want to end up?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Maybe if you are talking about grad school. Not college. It's a lot for a 17-18 year old to know where they might want to end up and choose a college accordingly. You're still pretty young to have a good idea.


I had a good idea 30+ years ago and I am still here!


I am so sorry
Anonymous
Post 02/22/2019 22:28     Subject: Should a student, in general go to a college in the state/area where they want to end up?
Anonymous wrote:I went to Arizona State and never had a job in AZ. My jobs were here, San Diego, and Palo Alto.


Kind of proves the point. Schools mostly have a regional reach. ASU sends a lot of grads to California. But it's right next door. ASU doesn't send a lot of grads to Chicago.
Anonymous
Post 02/22/2019 19:22     Subject: Should a student, in general go to a college in the state/area where they want to end up?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you lived in North Dakota, maybe. But this is DC and if you want to come back and get a job here, it will be really easy to do so.

That said, many kids don't come back here. Warmer weather, nicer areas, less traffic, more of a community feel, less expensive, etc... can keep kids elsewhere.

I think SLAC's all tend to go home from where they are from or move onto graduate school in a different area. They are usually rural, have no positions in the area, and don't cater to graduates and beyond.

Large university and state schools have a big local population in addition to research and graduate opportunities. But this also depends on the area that it is located in. Clemson, Penn, UConn, WVA, UVA, VT, etc... aren't in large cities or business areas. They will mainly only keep kids staying on for research and graduate.

Schools, like GW, UMCP, NYU, Villanova, Michigan, U Chicago, Wash U, Arizona State, Case Western, UF, UCLA, U of Minnesota, etc... have huge metro areas surrounding them. If kids end up loving that city, having more close college friends than high school friends, than yes, I think I could see kids wanting to stay.

DC is really expensive to live in. Only NY, Cali and parts of Boston are probably more expensive.

And really, do you want your kids and potentially grandkids growing up in this area anyway? It is so densely populated, transient, expensive, and pretty rude/stand-offish of an area. It is only going to get worse.


The most eye opening experience on college tours is how much nicer other areas of the country are. Genuinely nicer, friendlier, happier, and calmer. Not at just the college campuses, but in the surrounding areas. Around here, customer service at hotels, restaurants, fast food, parking, stores, etc... is abysmal. And people in the city and suburbs, elevators etc.. are just rushed and rude. It is much more apparent when you are looking at so many other areas. My daughter said even people in NY were nicer.


I agree. I was wondering why I was enjoying my time at one particular college tour and I realized I hadn't felt like I was about to be shoved for an entire day. People were moving out of the way graciously for each other and holding doors. I don't know what it is, but I feel like people around DC make just walking around into a power trip and try to make you yield to them. My DC is appalled though because I told DC we're moving the whole family to that town and DC thinks I'm serious.
Anonymous
Post 02/22/2019 19:18     Subject: Re:Should a student, in general go to a college in the state/area where they want to end up?
Anonymous wrote:Totally doesn't matter.

I went to college in Jersey. Then moved to Georgia for five years. Then moved to Washington state for 13 years. Now in MD. Where I went to college has nothing to do with anything.


NP and a teacher. Grew up in one state, undergrad not for teaching in a different state, back to home state for grad school for teaching. Graduated and immediately moved. Look up states with reciprocity for teaching licenses. In Maryland I needed two extra classes after I think 8 years but the district offered them for $100 each. Not a big deal. I'm now certified in 4 states. I think it used to be harder but not anymore. And in DC, many of my colleagues are fresh out of college from around the country. Small town Massachusetts was much more local people.