Anonymous
08/17/2019 06:37
Subject: Ethnic Studies
Anonymous wrote:On another thread, someone made a good point about quantitative analysis skills and how many jobs expect them. How do these majors give students those skills?
They don't
Anonymous
08/16/2019 23:52
Subject: Ethnic Studies
Anonymous wrote:On another thread, someone made a good point about quantitative analysis skills and how many jobs expect them. How do these majors give students those skills?
Since these people are quant “experts,” do they have stats on how many students start out on these majors, how many wash out, how many make it through, and how many actually land jobs in their field of study after their average GPA that must hover around 2.9-3.1?
Anonymous
08/16/2019 23:20
Subject: Ethnic Studies
Anonymous wrote:On another thread, someone made a good point about quantitative analysis skills and how many jobs expect them. How do these majors give students those skills?
Berkeley was one of the first universities to start this major. They have an entire department about it. Here are the undergrad requirements:
http://ethnicstudies.berkeley.edu/programs/undergrad/major-requirements/comparative-ethnic-studies-major
and here's a list of all courses offered last semester:
http://ethnicstudies.berkeley.edu/courses/undergraduate/2019/SP
I see one "humanities methods" course and one on writing and composition. Nothing detailed in statistics from what I see.
Anonymous
08/16/2019 22:32
Subject: Ethnic Studies
On another thread, someone made a good point about quantitative analysis skills and how many jobs expect them. How do these majors give students those skills?
Anonymous
08/16/2019 20:36
Subject: Re:Ethnic Studies
Is there something about the phrase “ethnic studies” that triggers conservatives.
When I began at my Ivy you could major in East Asian Studies or Near Eastern Studies. By the time I graduated you could also major in African-American Studies. No doubt within the next 10 years or so there will be a new major in Latinx Studies. I have no doubt these departments can be intellectually rigorous, so why wouldn’t we try to encourage students to study something they are passionate about? Must everyone be channeled into CS and engineering programs these days?
When I began at my Ivy you could major in East Asian Studies or Near Eastern Studies. By the time I graduated you could also major in African-American Studies. No doubt within the next 10 years or so there will be a new major in Latinx Studies. I have no doubt these departments can be intellectually rigorous, so why wouldn’t we try to encourage students to study something they are passionate about? Must everyone be channeled into CS and engineering programs these days?
Anonymous
08/16/2019 20:23
Subject: Ethnic Studies
There are so many lawyers working as paralegals in CA. They have huge school loans to prove that.
Anonymous
08/16/2019 18:48
Subject: Ethnic Studies
Just because a student goes into pre-law, pre-med,pre-engineerin, pre-$$$$, doesn’t mean s/he makes it.
Anonymous
08/16/2019 18:15
Subject: Ethnic Studies
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:They can go work for AOC. Not being snarky. This world is bigger than OP imagines.
Yup.
Ethnic/ gender studies is a great pipeline for crazy politicians and associated nonprofits.
And little else.
Wasn't AOC's Chief of Staff (now fired) from the Tech industry? Most staff on Capitol Hill are lawyers, economists or have technical degrees.
Anonymous
08/16/2019 11:55
Subject: Ethnic Studies
I (white) majored in Africana Studies undergrad. Different graduate degree. I'm making 6 figures working for a non-profit that works with the population I studied. No regrets.
Anonymous
08/16/2019 11:30
Subject: Ethnic Studies
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:They can go work for AOC. Not being snarky. This world is bigger than OP imagines.
Yup.
Ethnic/ gender studies is a great pipeline for crazy politicians and associated nonprofits.
And little else.
You say that like it's a terrible thing. The nonprofit job sector is huge. There are tons of jobs out there for people who want to make the world a better place, rather than make a profit for a corporation.
https://philanthropynewsdigest.org/news/nonprofit-job-growth-from-2007-to-2016-outpaced-for-profit-job-growth
...and the way to make the world a better place is to develop some actual, productive skills. Nonprofits need and demand scientists/ lawyers/ leaders/ engineers/ thinkers...not brainwashed ideologues.
Anonymous
08/16/2019 11:25
Subject: Ethnic Studies
Anonymous wrote:So....if the friend were majoring in History (of dead white people) or English (written by dead white people) or Anthropology (white people studying living non-white people) or Archaeology (white people digging up the stuff of dead non-white people) or Philosophy (written by dead white people) or Classics (works by dead white Greeks and Romans) would that be acceptable to you and your conservative strawman looking to hire someone?
Ethnic Studies can encompass all those fields and more. It's an interdisciplinary major. It's disturbing that you would assume that Ethnic Studies is somehow a major less worthy of respect than other liberal arts majors such as history, English, philosophy, classics, anthropology, or archaeology. Classes satisfying the major requirement will presumably require the same sorts of learning, studying, and demonstrating mastery of the materials than a comparable class taught in the traditional mold so prevalent in higher education until only a few decades ago -- that only things done by white men are worthy of study.
Sorry, but the stuff written by “dead white people” is vastly superior to anything you’ll read in “ethnic studies”
Anonymous
08/16/2019 09:55
Subject: Ethnic Studies
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:They can go work for AOC. Not being snarky. This world is bigger than OP imagines.
Yup.
Ethnic/ gender studies is a great pipeline for crazy politicians and associated nonprofits.
And little else.
You say that like it's a terrible thing. The nonprofit job sector is huge. There are tons of jobs out there for people who want to make the world a better place, rather than make a profit for a corporation.
https://philanthropynewsdigest.org/news/nonprofit-job-growth-from-2007-to-2016-outpaced-for-profit-job-growth
Anonymous
08/16/2019 09:46
Subject: Ethnic Studies
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think many large corporations and universities want professionals who can help them deal with multicultural programming, teaching related material, perhaps minority recruitment. Perhaps media outlets also want experts on such issues. Not sure...but I can imagine jobs this could lead to.
A smart decision. Look at some of the major marketing slip ups that have occurred because firms lacked cultural insight. Quite a few people in my history grad program went on to work in the corporate sector doing this same work.
Yes!
And to the person who mentioned Religious Studies, understanding how religion impacts how people operate in many countries is critical for business and government.
Anonymous
08/16/2019 09:36
Subject: Ethnic Studies
Anonymous wrote:They can go work for AOC. Not being snarky. This world is bigger than OP imagines.
Yup.
Ethnic/ gender studies is a great pipeline for crazy politicians and associated nonprofits.
And little else.
Anonymous
08/16/2019 09:25
Subject: Ethnic Studies
To the person who wants to glorify dead white people for western civilization....do you have any idea how many important contributions have been made by people in other civilizations? That has traditionally been underplayed in our system.
And do you think that women and minorities were given the credit they deserved historically, for their contributions?
Last but not least, you need to acknowledge that it was kind of hard to make major contributions when you were blocked from being educated, learning how to read, owning land, etc etc. So, don't feel too proud of your much lauded ancestors. They also have lots of things to apologize for.
And do you think that women and minorities were given the credit they deserved historically, for their contributions?
Last but not least, you need to acknowledge that it was kind of hard to make major contributions when you were blocked from being educated, learning how to read, owning land, etc etc. So, don't feel too proud of your much lauded ancestors. They also have lots of things to apologize for.