Anonymous
Post 02/20/2019 18:48     Subject: This is why I never buy books new books anymore
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Anonymous wrote:I browse B&N, make a list of what I want, and then order off of Amazon. Fully aware that I'm part of the problem but I'm not willing to pay 30-40% more in a brick & mortar store, sorry.


This is abhorrent behavior. When there are no more brick and mortar stores, it will be because of people like you. Congratulations. You might think I’m overreacting, but you are actively sabotaging the jobs and livelihood of every person who works in the store that you refuse to support. Go to the library if you can’t afford to buy a book.


You are over reacting. Business models change.


Not overreacting, and business models haven’t changed that much. Barnes and Noble is still providing a service that the cheap Amazon shopper is benefiting from, and one that an online store can’t replicate. She showcases the books in person, learns what she wants to read, and then sabotages the provider of that service by purchasing from a competitor that is ruining all other retail. It’s unfair, it’s not victimless, and it should be called out as bad behavior.


Op here and the product has changed and the business model has as well. As I said in my first post, Barnes & Noble needs to seriously reduce it's footprint and cater more towards what people go the store to do. They should also broaden their product selection to cover complementary products.

And to the PP about independent bookstores. No, I am not going to go there and plunk down $27 so they can pay their crazy rent on their cutesy, overpriced location. Please don't tell me about how awesome their service is so I need to shop there. It's no better or worse than B&N

NP. Local stores are better than B&N, and absolutely better than ordering from Amazon. When people shop at my local indie bookstore, they might also visit a local coffee shop, craft store, or any other local businesses in my small town’s downtown area. A locally-owned shop isn’t just pulling in retail for itself; it’s contributing to the local economy.
Anonymous
Post 02/20/2019 17:45     Subject: Re:This is why I never buy books new books anymore
And to the PP about independent bookstores. No, I am not going to go there and plunk down $27 so they can pay their crazy rent on their cutesy, overpriced location. Please don't tell me about how awesome their service is so I need to shop there. It's no better or worse than B&N


Didn’t you just say you won’t shop at Barnes and Noble either? It sounds like you can’t afford books. That’s fine but don’t blame the products or their purveyors.
Anonymous
Post 02/20/2019 17:37     Subject: This is why I never buy books new books anymore
I read about a book a week, including new bestsellers, and probably spend less than $25 a year. I use the library ebook selections straight to my kindle, placing holds on new books and I frequent the Friends of the Library and PTA book sales in the county (MoCo).
Anonymous
Post 02/20/2019 17:31     Subject: This is why I never buy books new books anymore
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I browse B&N, make a list of what I want, and then order off of Amazon. Fully aware that I'm part of the problem but I'm not willing to pay 30-40% more in a brick & mortar store, sorry.


This is abhorrent behavior. When there are no more brick and mortar stores, it will be because of people like you. Congratulations. You might think I’m overreacting, but you are actively sabotaging the jobs and livelihood of every person who works in the store that you refuse to support. Go to the library if you can’t afford to buy a book.


You are over reacting. Business models change.


Not overreacting, and business models haven’t changed that much. Barnes and Noble is still providing a service that the cheap Amazon shopper is benefiting from, and one that an online store can’t replicate. She showcases the books in person, learns what she wants to read, and then sabotages the provider of that service by purchasing from a competitor that is ruining all other retail. It’s unfair, it’s not victimless, and it should be called out as bad behavior.


Op here and the product has changed and the business model has as well. As I said in my first post, Barnes & Noble needs to seriously reduce it's footprint and cater more towards what people go the store to do. They should also broaden their product selection to cover complementary products.

And to the PP about independent bookstores. No, I am not going to go there and plunk down $27 so they can pay their crazy rent on their cutesy, overpriced location. Please don't tell me about how awesome their service is so I need to shop there. It's no better or worse than B&N
Anonymous
Post 02/20/2019 16:33     Subject: This is why I never buy books new books anymore
I love the book of the month club. I get a new hardcover every month for $12.49 with my annual membership. Add ons are just $9.99. And their curated selections are excellent.

Anonymous
Post 02/20/2019 15:56     Subject: This is why I never buy books new books anymore
I place books on my wish list and often the Kindle version will drop to $5 or less, which is when I buy.
Anonymous
Post 02/20/2019 15:41     Subject: This is why I never buy books new books anymore
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I browse B&N, make a list of what I want, and then order off of Amazon. Fully aware that I'm part of the problem but I'm not willing to pay 30-40% more in a brick & mortar store, sorry.


This is abhorrent behavior. When there are no more brick and mortar stores, it will be because of people like you. Congratulations. You might think I’m overreacting, but you are actively sabotaging the jobs and livelihood of every person who works in the store that you refuse to support. Go to the library if you can’t afford to buy a book.


You are over reacting. Business models change.


Not overreacting, and business models haven’t changed that much. Barnes and Noble is still providing a service that the cheap Amazon shopper is benefiting from, and one that an online store can’t replicate. She showcases the books in person, learns what she wants to read, and then sabotages the provider of that service by purchasing from a competitor that is ruining all other retail. It’s unfair, it’s not victimless, and it should be called out as bad behavior.
Anonymous
Post 02/20/2019 15:37     Subject: This is why I never buy books new books anymore
I mostly order used books that are "like new" and I assume whoever bought the book first never read it and thus avoid the "did someone read this on the toilet?" problem. LOL. Or I buy a used hardcover and assume it was too unwieldy for the toilet.

But yeah, OP is right, $27 for a hardcover book is sort of insane.
Anonymous
Post 02/20/2019 15:35     Subject: This is why I never buy books new books anymore
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I browse B&N, make a list of what I want, and then order off of Amazon. Fully aware that I'm part of the problem but I'm not willing to pay 30-40% more in a brick & mortar store, sorry.


This is abhorrent behavior. When there are no more brick and mortar stores, it will be because of people like you. Congratulations. You might think I’m overreacting, but you are actively sabotaging the jobs and livelihood of every person who works in the store that you refuse to support. Go to the library if you can’t afford to buy a book.


You are over reacting. Business models change.
Anonymous
Post 02/20/2019 15:34     Subject: This is why I never buy books new books anymore
Anonymous wrote:I browse B&N, make a list of what I want, and then order off of Amazon. Fully aware that I'm part of the problem but I'm not willing to pay 30-40% more in a brick & mortar store, sorry.


This is abhorrent behavior. When there are no more brick and mortar stores, it will be because of people like you. Congratulations. You might think I’m overreacting, but you are actively sabotaging the jobs and livelihood of every person who works in the store that you refuse to support. Go to the library if you can’t afford to buy a book.
Anonymous
Post 02/20/2019 15:29     Subject: This is why I never buy books new books anymore
I browse B&N, make a list of what I want, and then order off of Amazon. Fully aware that I'm part of the problem but I'm not willing to pay 30-40% more in a brick & mortar store, sorry.
Anonymous
Post 02/20/2019 09:09     Subject: Re:This is why I never buy books new books anymore
Support independent bookstores. Shop local, where your dollars help your own community.
Anonymous
Post 02/20/2019 08:49     Subject: This is why I never buy books new books anymore
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I get weird about library books, because I’m a germaphobe. I can’t help but wonder if people read the book on the toilet, or while they were sick. I also worry about bed bugs being brought into my house. So I buy books, then donate them to charity.


Same here. I used to live at the library as a kid, but now I prefer to buy my books new because who knows where the books have been.


This is why I love ebooks from the library. Delivered right to my Kindle, auto deleted after three weeks. No fines, no grubby hands.
Anonymous
Post 02/20/2019 08:47     Subject: This is why I never buy books new books anymore
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP, check Costco. They have many of the new releases in stock in their stores.

The prices aren't different from Amazon.


But the employees at a Costco warehouse are earning a living wage.
Anonymous
Post 02/20/2019 08:47     Subject: Re:This is why I never buy books new books anymore
Anonymous wrote:It is almost *never* about the writer becoming rich.

It's about paper, printing, binding, and shipping. Inflexible costs. Recently f--ed even further by Trump's dumb tariffs.

Also: do you really think content should be free? Do you have any idea of how long it takes to compose and edit a decent book that isn't a piece of self-published trash?


No, none of those things really cost that much. In fact the cost for printing dropped dramatically. And tariffs have nothing to do with it. Printing costs dropped many years ago.

And the free content comment made me laugh. I think it's called the Internet. Look into it sometimes. Lots of free content.