Anonymous
Post 02/13/2019 18:31     Subject: Re:Since people are now redshirting spring bday kids
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The parents who redshirt for unnecessary reasons will later deal with the consequences. They will have a very old senior in HS living in their house and giving them h*ll. They already had to pay for one more year of a nanny, daycare, preschool, and they will have one less year of contributing to retirement.

I wasn’t held back and now I’m so glad. Maybe it was harder in early elementary school but later on it was so much better to have not been redshirted.



And the kids get an extra year of childhood - is it really that bad.


Right? And if they are like my husband and I, they will spend their senior year taking college classes and graduate college in three years. DH didn’t even live at home the last year of high school. Just lived on campus.
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2019 17:16     Subject: Since people are now redshirting spring bday kids
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:They need to change the rules. It's getting absurd.


Non-DC resident here but curious: What exactly ARE the rules on redshirting? I'm shocked by these threads! I'm in NYC and there is a strict public school rule that all kids born in a given calendar year start K, etc. So you have kids born January-December 2014 all in one grade, etc. I'm not sure under what circumstances exceptions are made but unless you send your kid to private school redshirting is basically not an option. I know a handful of people with Nov/Dec babies for whom the rule really did compel them to look at private schools (this after overspending on real estate in the best public school district prior to getting pregnant) but other than that redshirting really isn't brought up.


NYC resident here too. I don't take a hardline against redshirting -- that would be hypocritical of me as I am redshirting my late December kid (a private that uses year-end cutoff but will allow redshirting in some instances). But I am amused when I read threads worrying about June or other summer birthdays being too young for K ("It just seems so young for K and sitting still!") I'm like June?! Seems old!


Most people on this board are talking about Maryland - which has a September 1 cutoff or Virginia - which has October 1.


Yes I know. I'm referring to different perspectives on what is "young" for K. Just noting that what people think is a developmentally appropriate age for K is largely based off on what their district's cutoff is -- here there are comments about how August kids in general are not ready, and June iffy, whereas those months are not even questionable in other districts.


Yes, I grey up in NY and at least back then (30 years ago), they were really strict about the cutoffs, and you could basically only redshirt if there was a documented developmental delay. Conversely, I was born 4 days after the cutoff and they were not at all flexible pushing me ahead into the grade ahead even though I was beyond ready. The only way around it would be to go to a private school for a year and transfer, which my parents (accurately?) thought would be too disruptive. So, I was always the oldest in the class who had not been left back for delays. As a mature/precocious and smart kid it SUCKED, especially in the younger grades. Couldn't believe my peers did things like nap and cry for their mommies.


Many of us with young ones end up having to do the private for 2 years and then transfer them. It wasn't disruptive at all. My child get the benefit of a strong curriculum, great teachers, small class sizes and was very well prepared. Worth every penny regardless of the age issue. All the kids know ages/birthdays.
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2019 17:13     Subject: Since people are now redshirting spring bday kids
We have some weird dynamics in our family. All the cousins are really close in age and they are all over the place in terms of where they are in school. My daughter has a cousin who is 18 months older than she is who is a year behind her in school, since she's a later birthday and we sent her anyway and he is really old for his age. It just gets sort of odd and confusing when we get together. My mom finds it really confusing. She'll be asking someone about college applications and he's like "Oh, I'm only in tenth grade" and she's like "But I could swear you were born after so and so who is graduating this year." Really, really odd.
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2019 17:13     Subject: Re:Since people are now redshirting spring bday kids
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The parents who redshirt for unnecessary reasons will later deal with the consequences. They will have a very old senior in HS living in their house and giving them h*ll. They already had to pay for one more year of a nanny, daycare, preschool, and they will have one less year of contributing to retirement.

I wasn’t held back and now I’m so glad. Maybe it was harder in early elementary school but later on it was so much better to have not been redshirted.



And the kids get an extra year of childhood - is it really that bad.


Because its not an extra year of childhood. They turn 18 either way. And, we complain about the current generation. It really isn't their fault how they are. It is their parents fault who do not help them grow up and want to keep them as kids.
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2019 17:12     Subject: Since people are now redshirting spring bday kids
Anonymous wrote:You parents need to get a life.

Worry about your kid, not others. Yes, my son is smarter and more athletic than your kid. I did not do it to disadvantage your child, but to help mine work out some behaviour issues.

Would I do over again, probably not, but it was the right decision at the time.




Your son isn't necessarily smarter and more athletic if they are a year older. They have just had one more year to develop. And, no your kid really smarter than my September kid who is the youngest, I just don't brag about it.
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2019 16:57     Subject: Re:Since people are now redshirting spring bday kids
Anonymous wrote:The parents who redshirt for unnecessary reasons will later deal with the consequences. They will have a very old senior in HS living in their house and giving them h*ll. They already had to pay for one more year of a nanny, daycare, preschool, and they will have one less year of contributing to retirement.

I wasn’t held back and now I’m so glad. Maybe it was harder in early elementary school but later on it was so much better to have not been redshirted.



And the kids get an extra year of childhood - is it really that bad.
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2019 16:49     Subject: Since people are now redshirting spring bday kids
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They need to change the rules. It's getting absurd.


Non-DC resident here but curious: What exactly ARE the rules on redshirting? I'm shocked by these threads! I'm in NYC and there is a strict public school rule that all kids born in a given calendar year start K, etc. So you have kids born January-December 2014 all in one grade, etc. I'm not sure under what circumstances exceptions are made but unless you send your kid to private school redshirting is basically not an option. I know a handful of people with Nov/Dec babies for whom the rule really did compel them to look at private schools (this after overspending on real estate in the best public school district prior to getting pregnant) but other than that redshirting really isn't brought up.


NYC resident here too. I don't take a hardline against redshirting -- that would be hypocritical of me as I am redshirting my late December kid (a private that uses year-end cutoff but will allow redshirting in some instances). But I am amused when I read threads worrying about June or other summer birthdays being too young for K ("It just seems so young for K and sitting still!") I'm like June?! Seems old!


Most people on this board are talking about Maryland - which has a September 1 cutoff or Virginia - which has October 1.


Yes I know. I'm referring to different perspectives on what is "young" for K. Just noting that what people think is a developmentally appropriate age for K is largely based off on what their district's cutoff is -- here there are comments about how August kids in general are not ready, and June iffy, whereas those months are not even questionable in other districts.


Yes, I grey up in NY and at least back then (30 years ago), they were really strict about the cutoffs, and you could basically only redshirt if there was a documented developmental delay. Conversely, I was born 4 days after the cutoff and they were not at all flexible pushing me ahead into the grade ahead even though I was beyond ready. The only way around it would be to go to a private school for a year and transfer, which my parents (accurately?) thought would be too disruptive. So, I was always the oldest in the class who had not been left back for delays. As a mature/precocious and smart kid it SUCKED, especially in the younger grades. Couldn't believe my peers did things like nap and cry for their mommies.
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2019 16:36     Subject: Re:Since people are now redshirting spring bday kids
The parents who redshirt for unnecessary reasons will later deal with the consequences. They will have a very old senior in HS living in their house and giving them h*ll. They already had to pay for one more year of a nanny, daycare, preschool, and they will have one less year of contributing to retirement.

I wasn’t held back and now I’m so glad. Maybe it was harder in early elementary school but later on it was so much better to have not been redshirted.

Anonymous
Post 02/13/2019 16:35     Subject: Since people are now redshirting spring bday kids
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You suburbanites are so weird - why would you want to a admit that you’re child is developmentally behind and so needs to be held back an entire year?

I understand that you think it’s some kind of advantage, but it’s really an admission. I am sorry for you all. And you are going to have to have a big talk with your 19 year old high school attending sons.


Eh, my brother was red shirted and he got a PHD and now is working on a cancer cure at NIH. Not really convinced we should feel sorry for redshirters.


No one cares about your age when you’re in college, or doing research. So, he could have gone to school on time, too.,.
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2019 16:31     Subject: Since people are now redshirting spring bday kids
You parents need to get a life.

Worry about your kid, not others. Yes, my son is smarter and more athletic than your kid. I did not do it to disadvantage your child, but to help mine work out some behaviour issues.

Would I do over again, probably not, but it was the right decision at the time.


Anonymous
Post 02/13/2019 16:31     Subject: Since people are now redshirting spring bday kids
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They need to change the rules. It's getting absurd.


Non-DC resident here but curious: What exactly ARE the rules on redshirting? I'm shocked by these threads! I'm in NYC and there is a strict public school rule that all kids born in a given calendar year start K, etc. So you have kids born January-December 2014 all in one grade, etc. I'm not sure under what circumstances exceptions are made but unless you send your kid to private school redshirting is basically not an option. I know a handful of people with Nov/Dec babies for whom the rule really did compel them to look at private schools (this after overspending on real estate in the best public school district prior to getting pregnant) but other than that redshirting really isn't brought up.


NYC resident here too. I don't take a hardline against redshirting -- that would be hypocritical of me as I am redshirting my late December kid (a private that uses year-end cutoff but will allow redshirting in some instances). But I am amused when I read threads worrying about June or other summer birthdays being too young for K ("It just seems so young for K and sitting still!") I'm like June?! Seems old!


Most people on this board are talking about Maryland - which has a September 1 cutoff or Virginia - which has October 1.


Fine. But what is the point of cutoffs if there don't seem to really be any rules regarding them? It almost sounds like it's totally parents choice (in DC, Maryland, Virginia) as to when your kid starts K?
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2019 16:23     Subject: Since people are now redshirting spring bday kids
Anonymous wrote:OMG you guys are the worst. You say you are not jealous or bitter, but why all the anger against parents that chose to redshirt? Admit it! Your kids have June birthdays and now they are the youngest and you are upset with that... ah the.
hypocrisy


I have no dog in this fight as my kids have October and November (x2) birthdays, but I think it’s reasonable to be annoyed when kids in your kid’s class are more than a year older. No matter when the cutoff is, that should not be the case... except for kids with actual delays.
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2019 16:19     Subject: Since people are now redshirting spring bday kids
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You suburbanites are so weird - why would you want to a admit that you’re child is developmentally behind and so needs to be held back an entire year?

I understand that you think it’s some kind of advantage, but it’s really an admission. I am sorry for you all. And you are going to have to have a big talk with your 19 year old high school attending sons.


Eh, my brother was red shirted and he got a PHD and now is working on a cancer cure at NIH. Not really convinced we should feel sorry for redshirters.


I started K at 4 years old (early Dec birthday with a dec. 31 cut off). I too have a doctorate and was an NIH researcher before I traded the .gov email address for one that earns more money. I published at 17! grad high-school at 21! doctorate 26! (that did take 5 years; tried for 4).
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2019 16:12     Subject: Since people are now redshirting spring bday kids
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They need to change the rules. It's getting absurd.


Non-DC resident here but curious: What exactly ARE the rules on redshirting? I'm shocked by these threads! I'm in NYC and there is a strict public school rule that all kids born in a given calendar year start K, etc. So you have kids born January-December 2014 all in one grade, etc. I'm not sure under what circumstances exceptions are made but unless you send your kid to private school redshirting is basically not an option. I know a handful of people with Nov/Dec babies for whom the rule really did compel them to look at private schools (this after overspending on real estate in the best public school district prior to getting pregnant) but other than that redshirting really isn't brought up.


NYC resident here too. I don't take a hardline against redshirting -- that would be hypocritical of me as I am redshirting my late December kid (a private that uses year-end cutoff but will allow redshirting in some instances). But I am amused when I read threads worrying about June or other summer birthdays being too young for K ("It just seems so young for K and sitting still!") I'm like June?! Seems old!


Most people on this board are talking about Maryland - which has a September 1 cutoff or Virginia - which has October 1.


Yes I know. I'm referring to different perspectives on what is "young" for K. Just noting that what people think is a developmentally appropriate age for K is largely based off on what their district's cutoff is -- here there are comments about how August kids in general are not ready, and June iffy, whereas those months are not even questionable in other districts.
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2019 16:07     Subject: Since people are now redshirting spring bday kids
Anonymous wrote:Who redshirts spring birthdays? Anyway, you probably think my late July birthday boy with an IEP was redshirted because he's huge. He wasn't.


My childhood friend redshirted her kids with Jan/Feb birthdays. I have no idea why.