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Anonymous wrote:Our DD did not get into UMD this year. She did not like the feel of UMBC when she visitied. She is okay with Towson, it was better than I expected with lots of new construction. Salisbury was a definite no and she would not even visit Frostburg.

She has received merit aid from several OOS schools that brings the cost down close to in-state, including places like Miami-Ohio and Alabama.

Not too many OOS flagships are going to come close to or under UMD’s instate cost of $23,000. As an example, my DS, who was accepted at UMD this year, got $8000 in merit aid at Pitt but the total OOS cost is still $40,000. He also got $14000 in merit aid at UDel but the total OOS cost is $37,000.

Miami-Ohio is $49,000 OOS. To get close to UMD’s cost, a student would have to receive $26,000 in merit aid. Alabama is $43,000 OOS so would require $20,000 in merit aid. Did your DC really receive that much aid?

My kid's OOS flagship will give sufficient aid to get the cost down to the equivalent of UMD in-state. She didn't get quite that much but there are certainly kids that did. She did get enough to make it cheaper than UVA engineering by a lot.

Anonymous wrote:Go to College confidential and read, read, read. You will learn re: merit aid. Prepare to apply widely, a lot of applications with the goal of landing a good deal. Do not fall in love with any particular school. Since it's pre-med, watch the GPA and whether the merit aid is GPA dependent. But if DC loses merit aid due to GPA they won't be heading to medical school anyway.

There's a whole thread on merit aid: https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/781846.page

Anonymous wrote:Our DD did not get into UMD this year. She did not like the feel of UMBC when she visitied. She is okay with Towson, it was better than I expected with lots of new construction. Salisbury was a definite no and she would not even visit Frostburg.

She has received merit aid from several OOS schools that brings the cost down close to in-state, including places like Miami-Ohio and Alabama.

My kid is at an OOS flagship with costs comparable to UVA (our flagship, which probably would not have taken her had she applied). Truthfully, the OOS place is a far better fit for her than UVA.

If I were choosing between those options, I'd go with Miami of Ohio. Nice reputation, and I like the Midwest. It is nice to live for a while among friendly people. Good luck to her!

Not at umd, the moment your gpa falls below the required gpa, that money is gone forever.

My son has a merit scholarship at a private college. Clearly, on the website, it states that the required gpa is averaged over two semesters. If you fall below the required gpa, you are on probation for one semester. If you don’t pull it up, you lose the scholarship totally with no chance to reapply. The only possible mitagating circumstances they mention are a death in the immediate family and serious extended illness.

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Anonymous wrote:Our DD did not get into UMD this year. She did not like the feel of UMBC when she visitied. She is okay with Towson, it was better than I expected with lots of new construction. Salisbury was a definite no and she would not even visit Frostburg.

She has received merit aid from several OOS schools that brings the cost down close to in-state, including places like Miami-Ohio and Alabama.

Not too many OOS flagships are going to come close to or under UMD’s instate cost of $23,000. As an example, my DS, who was accepted at UMD this year, got $8000 in merit aid at Pitt but the total OOS cost is still $40,000. He also got $14000 in merit aid at UDel but the total OOS cost is $37,000.

Miami-Ohio is $49,000 OOS. To get close to UMD’s cost, a student would have to receive $26,000 in merit aid. Alabama is $43,000 OOS so would require $20,000 in merit aid. Did your DC really receive that much aid?

UMD costs about $27,000/year all-in, not $23,000.

My DC got $20K from Pitt, taking the cost to about $24,000. Less than UMD-CP for us.

At Miami/Ohio, a student with ACT: 33+/SAT: 1450+ and GPA 3.50+ will get half to full tuition, which would equate to between $15-$30K merit for OOS. That could take the cost to about what UMD-CP would cost, depending on the size of the award.

That maybe but if your DC has one bad semester (which most kids do), you can kiss that money goodbye.

A kid who qualifies for the money to begin with is unlikely to have a bad semester that takes the GPA below e.g. 3.0, which is often what is required to maintain the merit scholarship.

Many schools give the student some leeway in any case.

How does it work? 2.95 is okay when 3.0 is required? How about 2.94? Where does it stop and how do you apply fairly??

Each school has its own standards, so you need to check them and determine what is realistic.

My DC has a large ($32K/year) merit scholarship from a LAC. If DC's GPA drops below 3.0, DC has a semester to get it back up. If that doesn't happen, the scholarship is reduced by $5K.

Every school has its own approach.

It’s on school’s website? I have never seen anything like that written.

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Anonymous wrote:Our DD did not get into UMD this year. She did not like the feel of UMBC when she visitied. She is okay with Towson, it was better than I expected with lots of new construction. Salisbury was a definite no and she would not even visit Frostburg.

She has received merit aid from several OOS schools that brings the cost down close to in-state, including places like Miami-Ohio and Alabama.

Not too many OOS flagships are going to come close to or under UMD’s instate cost of $23,000. As an example, my DS, who was accepted at UMD this year, got $8000 in merit aid at Pitt but the total OOS cost is still $40,000. He also got $14000 in merit aid at UDel but the total OOS cost is $37,000.

Miami-Ohio is $49,000 OOS. To get close to UMD’s cost, a student would have to receive $26,000 in merit aid. Alabama is $43,000 OOS so would require $20,000 in merit aid. Did your DC really receive that much aid?

UMD costs about $27,000/year all-in, not $23,000.

My DC got $20K from Pitt, taking the cost to about $24,000. Less than UMD-CP for us.

At Miami/Ohio, a student with ACT: 33+/SAT: 1450+ and GPA 3.50+ will get half to full tuition, which would equate to between $15-$30K merit for OOS. That could take the cost to about what UMD-CP would cost, depending on the size of the award.

That maybe but if your DC has one bad semester (which most kids do), you can kiss that money goodbye.

A kid who qualifies for the money to begin with is unlikely to have a bad semester that takes the GPA below e.g. 3.0, which is often what is required to maintain the merit scholarship.

Many schools give the student some leeway in any case.

How does it work? 2.95 is okay when 3.0 is required? How about 2.94? Where does it stop and how do you apply fairly??

Each school has its own standards, so you need to check them and determine what is realistic.

My DC has a large ($32K/year) merit scholarship from a LAC. If DC's GPA drops below 3.0, DC has a semester to get it back up. If that doesn't happen, the scholarship is reduced by $5K.

Every school has its own approach.

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Anonymous wrote:Our DD did not get into UMD this year. She did not like the feel of UMBC when she visitied. She is okay with Towson, it was better than I expected with lots of new construction. Salisbury was a definite no and she would not even visit Frostburg.

She has received merit aid from several OOS schools that brings the cost down close to in-state, including places like Miami-Ohio and Alabama.

Not too many OOS flagships are going to come close to or under UMD’s instate cost of $23,000. As an example, my DS, who was accepted at UMD this year, got $8000 in merit aid at Pitt but the total OOS cost is still $40,000. He also got $14000 in merit aid at UDel but the total OOS cost is $37,000.

Miami-Ohio is $49,000 OOS. To get close to UMD’s cost, a student would have to receive $26,000 in merit aid. Alabama is $43,000 OOS so would require $20,000 in merit aid. Did your DC really receive that much aid?

UMD costs about $27,000/year all-in, not $23,000.

My DC got $20K from Pitt, taking the cost to about $24,000. Less than UMD-CP for us.

At Miami/Ohio, a student with ACT: 33+/SAT: 1450+ and GPA 3.50+ will get half to full tuition, which would equate to between $15-$30K merit for OOS. That could take the cost to about what UMD-CP would cost, depending on the size of the award.

That maybe but if your DC has one bad semester (which most kids do), you can kiss that money goodbye.

A kid who qualifies for the money to begin with is unlikely to have a bad semester that takes the GPA below e.g. 3.0, which is often what is required to maintain the merit scholarship.

Many schools give the student some leeway in any case.

How does it work? 2.95 is okay when 3.0 is required? How about 2.94? Where does it stop and how do you apply fairly??

Schools can’t do that. It becomes a slippery slope.

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Anonymous wrote:Our DD did not get into UMD this year. She did not like the feel of UMBC when she visitied. She is okay with Towson, it was better than I expected with lots of new construction. Salisbury was a definite no and she would not even visit Frostburg.

She has received merit aid from several OOS schools that brings the cost down close to in-state, including places like Miami-Ohio and Alabama.

Not too many OOS flagships are going to come close to or under UMD’s instate cost of $23,000. As an example, my DS, who was accepted at UMD this year, got $8000 in merit aid at Pitt but the total OOS cost is still $40,000. He also got $14000 in merit aid at UDel but the total OOS cost is $37,000.

Miami-Ohio is $49,000 OOS. To get close to UMD’s cost, a student would have to receive $26,000 in merit aid. Alabama is $43,000 OOS so would require $20,000 in merit aid. Did your DC really receive that much aid?

UMD costs about $27,000/year all-in, not $23,000.

My DC got $20K from Pitt, taking the cost to about $24,000. Less than UMD-CP for us.

At Miami/Ohio, a student with ACT: 33+/SAT: 1450+ and GPA 3.50+ will get half to full tuition, which would equate to between $15-$30K merit for OOS. That could take the cost to about what UMD-CP would cost, depending on the size of the award.

That maybe but if your DC has one bad semester (which most kids do), you can kiss that money goodbye.

A kid who qualifies for the money to begin with is unlikely to have a bad semester that takes the GPA below e.g. 3.0, which is often what is required to maintain the merit scholarship.

Many schools give the student some leeway in any case.

How does it work? 2.95 is okay when 3.0 is required? How about 2.94? Where does it stop and how do you apply fairly??

My friends went to St Mary's and have good careers and loved their time there

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Anonymous wrote:Our DD did not get into UMD this year. She did not like the feel of UMBC when she visitied. She is okay with Towson, it was better than I expected with lots of new construction. Salisbury was a definite no and she would not even visit Frostburg.

She has received merit aid from several OOS schools that brings the cost down close to in-state, including places like Miami-Ohio and Alabama.

Not too many OOS flagships are going to come close to or under UMD’s instate cost of $23,000. As an example, my DS, who was accepted at UMD this year, got $8000 in merit aid at Pitt but the total OOS cost is still $40,000. He also got $14000 in merit aid at UDel but the total OOS cost is $37,000.

Miami-Ohio is $49,000 OOS. To get close to UMD’s cost, a student would have to receive $26,000 in merit aid. Alabama is $43,000 OOS so would require $20,000 in merit aid. Did your DC really receive that much aid?

UMD costs about $27,000/year all-in, not $23,000.

My DC got $20K from Pitt, taking the cost to about $24,000. Less than UMD-CP for us.

At Miami/Ohio, a student with ACT: 33+/SAT: 1450+ and GPA 3.50+ will get half to full tuition, which would equate to between $15-$30K merit for OOS. That could take the cost to about what UMD-CP would cost, depending on the size of the award.

That maybe but if your DC has one bad semester (which most kids do), you can kiss that money goodbye.

A kid who qualifies for the money to begin with is unlikely to have a bad semester that takes the GPA below e.g. 3.0, which is often what is required to maintain the merit scholarship.

Many schools give the student some leeway in any case.

I bet your kid is not old enough right? Incoming freshman? We lived thru one.

This is hilarious. "My kid had a bad semester, therefore most kids have bad semesters."

Whatever makes you feel better, PP.

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Anonymous wrote:Our DD did not get into UMD this year. She did not like the feel of UMBC when she visitied. She is okay with Towson, it was better than I expected with lots of new construction. Salisbury was a definite no and she would not even visit Frostburg.

She has received merit aid from several OOS schools that brings the cost down close to in-state, including places like Miami-Ohio and Alabama.

Not too many OOS flagships are going to come close to or under UMD’s instate cost of $23,000. As an example, my DS, who was accepted at UMD this year, got $8000 in merit aid at Pitt but the total OOS cost is still $40,000. He also got $14000 in merit aid at UDel but the total OOS cost is $37,000.

Miami-Ohio is $49,000 OOS. To get close to UMD’s cost, a student would have to receive $26,000 in merit aid. Alabama is $43,000 OOS so would require $20,000 in merit aid. Did your DC really receive that much aid?

I said close to in-state, not equal.

(This should have been in response to the above post)

If paying $20K, $15K, or even $5K more for an OOS public is “close” enough for you, then you are very fortunate that money is not an issue for you. I don’t say that with malice but genuinely hope that you and your DC appreciate how lucky you are. But for those families where even $5000 more a year makes all the difference, it is unhelpful of you to say that there are OOS options for Maryland residents that are close to or less than UMD. And for a student that was not accepted at UMD, the merit $ amounts are going to be even lower so I really question how “close” to in state you are talking about.

UMD is $23,000 if you don’t include indirect costs like books. To make an apples to apples comparison, here are the similar costs for the schools being discussed if you only include housing, typical meal plan, and tuition + mandatory fees (no books, no supplies, no other incidental costs which can really vary)

UMD (in state)
Tuition and Fees - $10,595
Housing and Meal Plan - $12,429
Total – $23,024
https://admissions.umd.edu/costs

Miami-Ohio (OOS)
Tuition and Fees - $34,895
Housing and Meal Plan - $13,860
Total – $48,754
https://miamioh.edu/onestop/your-money/tuition-fee...ll-2016/2018-cohort/index.html

U. of Alabama (OOS)
Tuition and Fees - $30,030
Housing and Meal Plan - $13,402
Total – $43,432
https://financialaid.ua.edu/cost/

Pitt (OOS)
Tuition and Fees - $31,102 (this increases for many majors) + $1950 fees (reduces a little bit after freshman year)= $33,052
Housing and Meal Plan - $11,582
Total – $44,634
https://oafa.pitt.edu/financialaid/costs/

U. Delaware (OOS)
Tuition and Fees - $34,310
Housing and Meal Plan - $12,862
Total – $ 47,172
https://www.udel.edu/students/student-financial-services/coa/

Cheered to see several Miami-Ohio mentions here. In addition to other comments, note that is a wonderful school full of happy kids - albeit inconvenient to travel to and from.

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Anonymous wrote:Our DD did not get into UMD this year. She did not like the feel of UMBC when she visitied. She is okay with Towson, it was better than I expected with lots of new construction. Salisbury was a definite no and she would not even visit Frostburg.

She has received merit aid from several OOS schools that brings the cost down close to in-state, including places like Miami-Ohio and Alabama.

Not too many OOS flagships are going to come close to or under UMD’s instate cost of $23,000. As an example, my DS, who was accepted at UMD this year, got $8000 in merit aid at Pitt but the total OOS cost is still $40,000. He also got $14000 in merit aid at UDel but the total OOS cost is $37,000.

Miami-Ohio is $49,000 OOS. To get close to UMD’s cost, a student would have to receive $26,000 in merit aid. Alabama is $43,000 OOS so would require $20,000 in merit aid. Did your DC really receive that much aid?

UMD costs about $27,000/year all-in, not $23,000.

My DC got $20K from Pitt, taking the cost to about $24,000. Less than UMD-CP for us.

At Miami/Ohio, a student with ACT: 33+/SAT: 1450+ and GPA 3.50+ will get half to full tuition, which would equate to between $15-$30K merit for OOS. That could take the cost to about what UMD-CP would cost, depending on the size of the award.

That maybe but if your DC has one bad semester (which most kids do), you can kiss that money goodbye.

A kid who qualifies for the money to begin with is unlikely to have a bad semester that takes the GPA below e.g. 3.0, which is often what is required to maintain the merit scholarship.

Many schools give the student some leeway in any case.

This is not true. PP is full of bad info.

NP. My daughter has 4 merit packages and all of them give options if you go below the GPA. None say you lose it and are done. There is probation, percentage off, and option to apply for personal/medical hardship for 1 year.

Good merit packages at decent OOS schools: WVU, Alabama, USC, Ole Miss, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Arizona, Colorado, etc..

Many just say X test score and X gpa = X % off.

Then privates offer great merit and financial packages too.

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Anonymous wrote:Our DD did not get into UMD this year. She did not like the feel of UMBC when she visitied. She is okay with Towson, it was better than I expected with lots of new construction. Salisbury was a definite no and she would not even visit Frostburg.

She has received merit aid from several OOS schools that brings the cost down close to in-state, including places like Miami-Ohio and Alabama.

Not too many OOS flagships are going to come close to or under UMD’s instate cost of $23,000. As an example, my DS, who was accepted at UMD this year, got $8000 in merit aid at Pitt but the total OOS cost is still $40,000. He also got $14000 in merit aid at UDel but the total OOS cost is $37,000.

Miami-Ohio is $49,000 OOS. To get close to UMD’s cost, a student would have to receive $26,000 in merit aid. Alabama is $43,000 OOS so would require $20,000 in merit aid. Did your DC really receive that much aid?

UMD costs about $27,000/year all-in, not $23,000.

My DC got $20K from Pitt, taking the cost to about $24,000. Less than UMD-CP for us.

At Miami/Ohio, a student with ACT: 33+/SAT: 1450+ and GPA 3.50+ will get half to full tuition, which would equate to between $15-$30K merit for OOS. That could take the cost to about what UMD-CP would cost, depending on the size of the award.

That maybe but if your DC has one bad semester (which most kids do), you can kiss that money goodbye.

A kid who qualifies for the money to begin with is unlikely to have a bad semester that takes the GPA below e.g. 3.0, which is often what is required to maintain the merit scholarship.

Many schools give the student some leeway in any case.

I bet your kid is not old enough right? Incoming freshman? We lived thru one.

My two kids are in college - a senior and a sophomore.

Nice try though.