Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here's a thought, has anyone asked the student body as to why they think these "hate crimes" are happening? Are they truly acts of hate or is it ignorance and teenage rebellion?

In our house, we have had discussions about the power of language and symbols. However, as a parent I often feel that words that would have been considered repulsive for my generation has gathered acceptance via music and pop culture. Kids are not ostracized by their peers as they use them in social settings. Instead kids are accepted and viewed as cool by their peers for pushing that envelope against the adult rules.

That is not a recent phenomenon.

So then why does Mrs. Heckert think that calling the acts hate crimes that rise to the level of police involvement will stop the behavior? Is there a better way to create change and understanding of the historic power of what the words and symbols represent?

Case in point, history teaches us that the N word represents a derogatory term meant to segregate and oppress a race because of skin color. A KKK clan robe, a noose, a burning cross, and swastika all represent murder. Not pleasant or funny things when you see them up close or are an actual target in a life threatening way. Students in an affluent suburbia would benefit from the up close and personal experiences that come from the museum exhibits that they are not getting in the classroom. They need an interactive experience to understand the power of the words and symbols they throw around so lightly and with little thought.

Anonymous wrote:Here's a thought, has anyone asked the student body as to why they think these "hate crimes" are happening? Are they truly acts of hate or is it ignorance and teenage rebellion?

In our house, we have had discussions about the power of language and symbols. However, as a parent I often feel that words that would have been considered repulsive for my generation has gathered acceptance via music and pop culture. Kids are not ostracized by their peers as they use them in social settings. Instead kids are accepted and viewed as cool by their peers for pushing that envelope against the adult rules.

That is not a recent phenomenon.

Here's a thought, has anyone asked the student body as to why they think these "hate crimes" are happening? Are they truly acts of hate or is it ignorance and teenage rebellion?

In our house, we have had discussions about the power of language and symbols. However, as a parent I often feel that words that would have been considered repulsive for my generation has gathered acceptance via music and pop culture. Kids are not ostracized by their peers as they use them in social settings. Instead kids are accepted and viewed as cool by their peers for pushing that envelope against the adult rules.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The neighborhoods surrounding Churchill are heavily Jewish. I really wonder how a family with those kinds of beliefs chose to live here.

I wonder why OP mentioned that there have been no school trips to the Holocaust museum?
We live upcounty and a school trip to DC would involve a lot of planning and logistics. Does the museum offer free admission?
Perhaps you just have a very wealthy PTA. We have not had any school trips anywhere

I am curious as to whether these are funded by the county, does the county not offer the same resources to all schools

https://www.ushmm.org/

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The neighborhoods surrounding Churchill are heavily Jewish. I really wonder how a family with those kinds of beliefs chose to live here.

I wonder why OP mentioned that there have been no school trips to the Holocaust museum?
We live upcounty and a school trip to DC would involve a lot of planning and logistics. Does the museum offer free admission?
Perhaps you just have a very wealthy PTA. We have not had any school trips anywhere

I am curious as to whether these are funded by the county, does the county not offer the same resources to all schools

Churchill actually has very few to almost no fieldtrips as well. A shame given the close proximity to national resources and all Smithsonian Museums are free. Schools travel from all over the United States to learn from them but it is not a priority of MCPS to utilize resources in our own backyard.

Perhaps the funding and opportunities should be built into the MCPS curriculum to provide students throughout Montgomery County historical diversity and cultural understanding.

Anonymous wrote:The neighborhoods surrounding Churchill are heavily Jewish. I really wonder how a family with those kinds of beliefs chose to live here.

I wonder why OP mentioned that there have been no school trips to the Holocaust museum?
We live upcounty and a school trip to DC would involve a lot of planning and logistics. Does the museum offer free admission?
Perhaps you just have a very wealthy PTA. We have not had any school trips anywhere

I am curious as to whether these are funded by the county, does the county not offer the same resources to all schools

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MCPS curriculum is not responsible for preventing bullying. Parents are.

No. Bullying is the responsibility of the school.

It starts young and kids need to be suspended.

suspension

lol

#CodeofConductisCrap

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone who doesn't think that bullying and racist/anti-semetic issues aren't happening at other schools in the county are living under a rock. My nephew goes to RM and tells me he is constantly intimidated by some bad apples. Another one of my kids friends goes to Northwest and tells my DS that "you have to be really careful at NW". I am not trying to single out these schools, but there is a lot of bad stuff going on at schools in the county and Churchill is just an easy target for people on these boards. This stuff should not be happening at any school.

text book example of what-about-ism: a variant of the tu quoque logical fallacy that attempts to discredit an opponent's position by charging them with hypocrisy without directly refuting or disproving their argument,

This

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How many instances of black bullying of white and Asian students elsewhere in MCPS are met with principals alerting the entire school community about unacceptable behavior? This goes on all the time and is largely ignored because leadership is afraid of driving those families away.

Unless you can back your claim up with actual evidence I have to conclude you’re just one of those people who prefer to ignore Churchill’s problems by pretending it happens elsewhere but I got news for you, it actually doesn’t. I’m sorry you bought in a school zone full of privileged bullies.

The evidence is clear, but you prefer to ignore it because it's not PC.

YOU, dear PP, are the ultimate example of a privileged bully.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:toxic atmosphere in that cluster - full of hatred.

privilege + segregation = what could go wrong...

+1

Anonymous wrote:DS said the latest incident involved kids handing out "N Word Passes"... i.e., pieces of paper giving white kids permission to use the word. He said the kids he saw giving them out were, themselves, white but maybe it originated from black kids handing them out. Same thing happened at Hoover a week or two ago (black kids handing out N Word Passes to white kids).

Since the police were called in, I don't think it has to do with N word passes

Anonymous wrote:Anyone who doesn't think that bullying and racist/anti-semetic issues aren't happening at other schools in the county are living under a rock. My nephew goes to RM and tells me he is constantly intimidated by some bad apples. Another one of my kids friends goes to Northwest and tells my DS that "you have to be really careful at NW". I am not trying to single out these schools, but there is a lot of bad stuff going on at schools in the county and Churchill is just an easy target for people on these boards. This stuff should not be happening at any school.

text book example of what-about-ism: a variant of the tu quoque logical fallacy that attempts to discredit an opponent's position by charging them with hypocrisy without directly refuting or disproving their argument,

Anonymous wrote:toxic atmosphere in that cluster - full of hatred.

privilege + segregation = what could go wrong...

Anyone who doesn't think that bullying and racist/anti-semetic issues aren't happening at other schools in the county are living under a rock. My nephew goes to RM and tells me he is constantly intimidated by some bad apples. Another one of my kids friends goes to Northwest and tells my DS that "you have to be really careful at NW". I am not trying to single out these schools, but there is a lot of bad stuff going on at schools in the county and Churchill is just an easy target for people on these boards. This stuff should not be happening at any school.

toxic atmosphere in that cluster - full of hatred.