Anonymous
02/05/2019 07:36
Subject: Non-parenting In Breweries
I don’t get the whole bringing kids to winerys and brewerys.
Bad parenting and irresponsible.
Bad parenting and irresponsible.
Anonymous
02/05/2019 07:26
Subject: Non-parenting In Breweries
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Where do people go to that they see hordes of kids running around and crawling on the floor? We take our young kids to restaurants a lot and I have rarely seen this kind of behavior.
Kids should be socialized at an early age. Not only in spaces reserved for them, like daycare and playgrounds, but also and more importantly in the everyday world. That is what happens in a healthy society. Seeing adults interact and learning how behave in different social settings. Finding their place in society.
All over the world kids are welcome everywhere, restaurants, weddings, banks, cafes... In the meantime America is raising sociopaths. I'm not exaggerating much.
I don't see it often out in public --maybe once a year-- but I did see it on Saturday.
I'm inclined to offer empathy and the benefit of the doubt when I can. Maybe these kiddos missed nap time. Perhaps the family was traveling from out of town to visit with friends, so they didn't have access to their usual kit of of toys and art supplies. Sometimes the children involved have invisible medical or developmental disabilities that it's not my business to know about. It is the parents' business to know their children's limitations, though. If your kid isn't ready to handle this situation, don't make him or her do it. It's also the parents job to assess risk; loose supervision on a playground is very different from loose supervision on in a crowded space over hard floors around unstable metal furniture and glassware.
For the most part, it's nbd to me as a patron who was there without children that day. When I got tired of the kids banging into my butt, shrieking, and leaving the door open, I left. I was also more than a little freaked out that someone was going to crack a small head on the concrete floor or get hurt by pulling over glassware from a high-top table or toppling a tall metal stool; providing first aid and helping with accident reports is not my idea of a good time. I just think that, given that breweries don't have to let children in, it would really stink if this type of behavior led to more establishments banning under-21's. It's already happened at least once in DC.
OP, I like you. I agree on all points.
I'm a beer lover and have been to at least a handful of breweries around here and in Asheville NC-- some are very family-friendly, and some aren't. I say, plan accordingly.
Anonymous
02/04/2019 21:02
Subject: Non-parenting In Breweries
Anonymous
02/04/2019 21:01
Subject: Non-parenting In Breweries
^ oh and we are genX old parents.
Anonymous
02/04/2019 21:00
Subject: Non-parenting In Breweries
I’ve done it. DH and I have one. We met a family also with one LO at a brewery with outside seating and food trucks. Sat at a picnic table. Ordered beers. Kids ran outside and played with bean bags for cornhole games not in use. One adult at a time would go run with the kids off in the yard. We walked home.
Anonymous
02/04/2019 20:52
Subject: Non-parenting In Breweries
Anonymous wrote:What IS it with millennials and breweries+beer gardens ? Why such a ... passion? Sincere question from a Gen X
We started it with the microbrews. This is just the next level.
- another GenX
Anonymous
02/04/2019 20:46
Subject: Non-parenting In Breweries
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The US is not Germany. If you want beer gardens with toddlers "like Germany" go live in Germany.
I'm not much of a beer drinker, but I do like wine. So many families seem to think wineries are public parks and bring their T ball sets and frisbees and play right next to tables where PAYING ADULTS are trying to enjoy a glass of wine and the view. We've started specifically seeking out wineries that are 21+ and thankfully, many are starting to enforcing a policy for this.
+1. Keep your kids at home, period, until they are well behaved in public.
lol okay, that seems super reasonable.
Anonymous
02/04/2019 20:43
Subject: Non-parenting In Breweries
Anonymous wrote:The US is not Germany. If you want beer gardens with toddlers "like Germany" go live in Germany.
I'm not much of a beer drinker, but I do like wine. So many families seem to think wineries are public parks and bring their T ball sets and frisbees and play right next to tables where PAYING ADULTS are trying to enjoy a glass of wine and the view. We've started specifically seeking out wineries that are 21+ and thankfully, many are starting to enforcing a policy for this.
+1. Keep your kids at home, period, until they are well behaved in public.
Anonymous
02/04/2019 19:54
Subject: Non-parenting In Breweries
Anonymous wrote:"You have a baby...in a bar!"
No clue WTH is wrong with parents these days. Your kids aren't your drinking buddies. Period.
Most parents aren't bringing their kids to bars at odd hours and staying to get wasted.
Anonymous
02/04/2019 19:50
Subject: Non-parenting In Breweries
"You have a baby...in a bar!"
No clue WTH is wrong with parents these days. Your kids aren't your drinking buddies. Period.
No clue WTH is wrong with parents these days. Your kids aren't your drinking buddies. Period.
Anonymous
02/04/2019 19:43
Subject: Non-parenting In Breweries
Anonymous wrote:Where do people go to that they see hordes of kids running around and crawling on the floor? We take our young kids to restaurants a lot and I have rarely seen this kind of behavior.
Kids should be socialized at an early age. Not only in spaces reserved for them, like daycare and playgrounds, but also and more importantly in the everyday world. That is what happens in a healthy society. Seeing adults interact and learning how behave in different social settings. Finding their place in society.
All over the world kids are welcome everywhere, restaurants, weddings, banks, cafes... In the meantime America is raising sociopaths. I'm not exaggerating much.
+1...
Anonymous
02/04/2019 18:44
Subject: Non-parenting In Breweries
I also want felafel. Should I have to go live in Israel?
What a narrow minded little person you are! America is a diverse country with lots of different kinds of people living lots of different kinds of lives. You sound like someone who doesn't get out much.
What a narrow minded little person you are! America is a diverse country with lots of different kinds of people living lots of different kinds of lives. You sound like someone who doesn't get out much.
Anonymous
02/04/2019 18:41
Subject: Non-parenting In Breweries
The US is not Germany. If you want beer gardens with toddlers "like Germany" go live in Germany.
I'm not much of a beer drinker, but I do like wine. So many families seem to think wineries are public parks and bring their T ball sets and frisbees and play right next to tables where PAYING ADULTS are trying to enjoy a glass of wine and the view. We've started specifically seeking out wineries that are 21+ and thankfully, many are starting to enforcing a policy for this.
I'm not much of a beer drinker, but I do like wine. So many families seem to think wineries are public parks and bring their T ball sets and frisbees and play right next to tables where PAYING ADULTS are trying to enjoy a glass of wine and the view. We've started specifically seeking out wineries that are 21+ and thankfully, many are starting to enforcing a policy for this.
Anonymous
02/04/2019 18:15
Subject: Non-parenting In Breweries
On the subject of millennials and breweries and dogs and kids, in Europe a lot of the socializing occurs in cafes and beer gardens because particularly in large cities people live in small spaces and therefore they're more likely to meet somewhere than to entertain at home. I would imagine that as subsequent generations have more debt and smaller homes and roomates until they're 30, this may change how we socialize as well. Thinking of a friend's memorable apartment in paris where you had to perform gymnastics to get in and out of the bathroom. (Door only opened if you stood on top of the toilet). not a lot of entertaining going on there.
Anonymous
02/04/2019 17:36
Subject: Non-parenting In Breweries
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I love the trend of having beer gardens in the US like they do in Germany. But the breweries in Germany will often have an entire children's playground outside with picnic tables surrounding it -- which is great if your kids are old enough to play on a playground without a parent. Great fun, but more for ages 5 and up -- probably not toddlers unless you plan it for naptime and have the kid sleep in a stroller.
How do you all feel about dogs at breweries? I have some thoughts on that . .
No dogs should be allowed at any restaurant, brewery, coffee shop, grocery store or food establishment.
I love dogs being allowed everywhere, just like Germany! Here dogs can really only sit in outdoor seating at restaurants, or they can go in to my bank lobby. I'm not sure why they are allowed at my bank, but everytime I go, someone is in line with their dog. It is pretty funny.
In Germany there are more places that are dog friendly than kid friendly.
Just like kids, dogs should behave when they are out and about. I don't take my dog anywhere but I have taken past dogs to outdoor seating at restaurants. She would never bite but so many kids would maul her because she was cute that we had to stop taking her. She did not really enjoy strange kids hanging on her.
Dogs are NOT human.
They do not belong in anyplace that serves food or sells things.
Keep your damn dogs at home.
The law disagrees with you. Dogs can be in outdoor patios of restaurants and coffee shops, at least where I live. In fact, most of those places have water dishes and treats they give out to dogs.