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Brilliant! For me, it's like I'm playing a real video game and if I do an extra smooth manuever (safely!) then points! That zen of feeling like you are just navigating it all just right while keeping your eyes on all the cars around you. Love it!

Except that when you crash, real people really get injured or killed.

I've never been in a car crash.

Actually I lied sorry. I have been in one car crash. Sheeting rain at night on an empty highway I was driving very carefully but spun out and nicked the median and lost control.

Not a single other car on the road and I was on hyper alert.

So I have never been in a car crash that was remotely related to aggressive driving.

Not yet you haven't. But that's kind of like my neighbor who canceled their homeowners' insurance because their house hadn't caught on fire in the past and they didn't think it would in the future.

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Brilliant! For me, it's like I'm playing a real video game and if I do an extra smooth manuever (safely!) then points! That zen of feeling like you are just navigating it all just right while keeping your eyes on all the cars around you. Love it!

Except that when you crash, real people really get injured or killed.

I've never been in a car crash.

Actually I lied sorry. I have been in one car crash. Sheeting rain at night on an empty highway I was driving very carefully but spun out and nicked the median and lost control.

Not a single other car on the road and I was on hyper alert.

So I have never been in a car crash that was remotely related to aggressive driving.

Well you were not driving carefully enough if you got in an avoidable accident - if you lost control because of conditions you were not driving very carefully.

But keep on patting yourself on the back.

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Anonymous wrote:They are narcissistic.

Funny I feel it's the exact opposite. The clueless drivers who think as long as they're following the "rules" whatever is happening around them doesn't matter, are the actual narcissists.

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They DGAF about anyone around them. In fact, I think some find pleasure in being the "left lane monitor" and holding up traffic for miles.

So it's weird I think of myself as kind of an aggressive driver but not a 'policing driver' which I think is an entirely different beast.

I like to get where I'm going and I have no tolerance for slow/incompetent drivers. They super annoy me. So I will weave around them. Or if a jerk driver does something jerky I will REALLY lay on my horn.

But I would NEVER like, track down a car to show my displeasure. Or ride the left lane at a slow speed to teach people a lesson. My aggressiveness comes from a combination of enjoying fun driving and not wanting people to slow me down.

I think the road ragers are not quite the same as the aggressive drivers, or at least they're two distinct flavors of the concept.

I don't think these are the "aggressive drivers". More like passive aggressive.

I am similar to you. I like efficiency and find it disturbing that so many people aren't aware of what's happening around them. They should be watching the flow of traffic and placing themselves in the correct lanes. If you want to drive slowly, fine, but stay in the right lane.

I think of my car as a water drop flowing down a rocky stream and I look for the path of least resistance. Around here, since so few people get the "stay right, pass left" concept that requires a lot of weaving.

I love that metaphor! That is how I think of it too. And I get almost peaceful zen like satisfaction in executing a smooth passage through a trafficky section. It's like a puzzle. I am constantly monitoring the cars and their habits around me and identifying problems or trends in the lane speeds. There is nothing more satisfying than picking the PRECISE right moment to change lanes to what was a slower lane to maintain pace.

Exactly! I watch it all so I know right when & where to go. Get past all of the wankers and then smooth sailing!

Brilliant! For me, it's like I'm playing a real video game and if I do an extra smooth manuever (safely!) then points! That zen of feeling like you are just navigating it all just right while keeping your eyes on all the cars around you. Love it!

And you are an idiot - seriously.

How fast you get through any part of the roadway is purely a reflection of the carrying capacity of the road divided by the number of cars. You can speed up in a particular section and get a hard-on because you are passing people but in the end you have to pass through the same bottlenecks and driving fast along one stretch only gets you to the next bottleneck sooner.

And our roadway system is at capacity for much of the day.

I love rolling up behind the jacka$$ macho drivers who just zoomed past me two minutes earlier with a rage acceleration and are now anxiously waiting at the same light that I coast into having saved gas and wear and tear on my car. And then they zoom off and the cycle repeats itself 2 minutes later.

Sure drivers need to pay attention and go when the light turns green and stay in their lane and use their turn signals to help to maximize the efficiency of the system but speeding, and "filling the space" and running red lights does nothing to increase the throughput of autos and only leads to more accidents (which is one of the controllable things that most leads to delays) and stress and wasted gas.

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Brilliant! For me, it's like I'm playing a real video game and if I do an extra smooth manuever (safely!) then points! That zen of feeling like you are just navigating it all just right while keeping your eyes on all the cars around you. Love it!

Except that when you crash, real people really get injured or killed.

I've never been in a car crash.

Actually I lied sorry. I have been in one car crash. Sheeting rain at night on an empty highway I was driving very carefully but spun out and nicked the median and lost control.

Not a single other car on the road and I was on hyper alert.

So I have never been in a car crash that was remotely related to aggressive driving.

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I am similar to you. I like efficiency and find it disturbing that so many people aren't aware of what's happening around them. They should be watching the flow of traffic and placing themselves in the correct lanes. If you want to drive slowly, fine, but stay in the right lane.

I think of my car as a water drop flowing down a rocky stream and I look for the path of least resistance. Around here, since so few people get the "stay right, pass left" concept that requires a lot of weaving.

Are you my father? When he taught me to drive he taught me that driving = taking up available spaces. Like if you're approaching a red light and you are in the right lane and there are 5 cars stopped at the light in the right lane ahead of you but only 2 in the left lane, get yourself over to the left lane to wait at the light. Does being 3 more cars ahead make a huge difference in my time? Not really. But being aware of those situations means you're constantly more aware in general. And like you said, it's more efficient.

Huh. My driver’s ed teacher taught me that most accidents happen while people are changing lanes. So, constantly changing lanes to gain 10 feet is a massively unnecessary risk to all of us.

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Brilliant! For me, it's like I'm playing a real video game and if I do an extra smooth manuever (safely!) then points! That zen of feeling like you are just navigating it all just right while keeping your eyes on all the cars around you. Love it!

Except that when you crash, real people really get injured or killed.

I've never been in a car crash.

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I am similar to you. I like efficiency and find it disturbing that so many people aren't aware of what's happening around them. They should be watching the flow of traffic and placing themselves in the correct lanes. If you want to drive slowly, fine, but stay in the right lane.

I think of my car as a water drop flowing down a rocky stream and I look for the path of least resistance. Around here, since so few people get the "stay right, pass left" concept that requires a lot of weaving.

Are you my father? When he taught me to drive he taught me that driving = taking up available spaces. Like if you're approaching a red light and you are in the right lane and there are 5 cars stopped at the light in the right lane ahead of you but only 2 in the left lane, get yourself over to the left lane to wait at the light. Does being 3 more cars ahead make a huge difference in my time? Not really. But being aware of those situations means you're constantly more aware in general. And like you said, it's more efficient.

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Brilliant! For me, it's like I'm playing a real video game and if I do an extra smooth manuever (safely!) then points! That zen of feeling like you are just navigating it all just right while keeping your eyes on all the cars around you. Love it!

Except that when you crash, real people really get injured or killed.

I can’t think of anywhere else in modern life where people following the law are supposed to yield politely to people breaking the law.

You a$$holes who think you’re in a video game should keep in mind that 16-year-old new drivers and grandmothers and deaf people and people unused to the Beltway and all kinds of other people have just as much of a right to drive as you. If you treat them as impediments in your video game and you cause an accident and kill one of them, you won’t just respawn.

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Anonymous wrote:They are narcissistic.

Funny I feel it's the exact opposite. The clueless drivers who think as long as they're following the "rules" whatever is happening around them doesn't matter, are the actual narcissists.

+1

They DGAF about anyone around them. In fact, I think some find pleasure in being the "left lane monitor" and holding up traffic for miles.

So it's weird I think of myself as kind of an aggressive driver but not a 'policing driver' which I think is an entirely different beast.

I like to get where I'm going and I have no tolerance for slow/incompetent drivers. They super annoy me. So I will weave around them. Or if a jerk driver does something jerky I will REALLY lay on my horn.

But I would NEVER like, track down a car to show my displeasure. Or ride the left lane at a slow speed to teach people a lesson. My aggressiveness comes from a combination of enjoying fun driving and not wanting people to slow me down.

I think the road ragers are not quite the same as the aggressive drivers, or at least they're two distinct flavors of the concept.

I don't think these are the "aggressive drivers". More like passive aggressive.

I am similar to you. I like efficiency and find it disturbing that so many people aren't aware of what's happening around them. They should be watching the flow of traffic and placing themselves in the correct lanes. If you want to drive slowly, fine, but stay in the right lane.

I think of my car as a water drop flowing down a rocky stream and I look for the path of least resistance. Around here, since so few people get the "stay right, pass left" concept that requires a lot of weaving.

I love that metaphor! That is how I think of it too. And I get almost peaceful zen like satisfaction in executing a smooth passage through a trafficky section. It's like a puzzle. I am constantly monitoring the cars and their habits around me and identifying problems or trends in the lane speeds. There is nothing more satisfying than picking the PRECISE right moment to change lanes to what was a slower lane to maintain pace.

Exactly! I watch it all so I know right when & where to go. Get past all of the wankers and then smooth sailing!

Brilliant! For me, it's like I'm playing a real video game and if I do an extra smooth manuever (safely!) then points! That zen of feeling like you are just navigating it all just right while keeping your eyes on all the cars around you. Love it!

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Anonymous wrote:We're curious why you are so slow and stupid.

Leave on time and you will not have to drive the way you do. I’m sorry you’re so incompetent at handling something so simple.

I do leave on time. And still slow, stupid morons like you are in the way. Learn how to drive!

No, you're not leaving on time.

Sadly, no matter what time you leave, there are always slow and stupid people on the road.

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Anonymous wrote:We're curious why you are so slow and stupid.

Leave on time and you will not have to drive the way you do. I’m sorry you’re so incompetent at handling something so simple.

I do leave on time. And still slow, stupid morons like you are in the way. Learn how to drive!

The more you tailgate me, the more I will slow down. So, have at it!

Nah, I'll just go around you, and while doing so, will bless you with the Finger Gesture of Fertility.

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Anonymous wrote:We're curious why you are so slow and stupid.

Leave on time and you will not have to drive the way you do. I’m sorry you’re so incompetent at handling something so simple.

I do leave on time. And still slow, stupid morons like you are in the way. Learn how to drive!

No, you're not leaving on time.

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Anonymous wrote:We're curious why you are so slow and stupid.

Leave on time and you will not have to drive the way you do. I’m sorry you’re so incompetent at handling something so simple.

I do leave on time. And still slow, stupid morons like you are in the way. Learn how to drive!

The more you tailgate me, the more I will slow down. So, have at it!

Ambivalent implies I don't care.

That's not true. I care a great deal about making sure you know you will yield to me.