Anonymous wrote:Don't they flash yellow before flashing red? You should have had time to stop...

Maybe. Maybe the bus driver flashes yellow for the required distance or maybe she only does it for a few feet. There is a law about
when the yellow is to go on, but the bus driver has to follow that law.

treat a school bus like a stale green light, predict it to change.

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Anonymous wrote:I got one for "passing" a school bus on the other side of a two lane road with a 30ft wide grass median with creek running down the middle of it! There was no possible way a kid could've gotten from the bus to in front of my car without getting in the creek up to his knees. Still got a ticket though.

It's a scam. Just like speed cameras.

I avoid being penalized by those scams by stopping for school buses and not speeding. It's a wonderfully effective strategy.

How am I endangering a child on the other side of a road divided by a grassy median strip with a CREEK flowing down the middle of it?!?!

Is the kid going to walk across the water like a little Jesus and leap in front of my car?

This isn't a road separated by a yellow line. This a road separated by a friggin' BODY OF WATER!

You really think that's reasonable?


Then I suggest you not drive at all during school hours. After all, a kid might be getting off a bus in Frederick, and you might be a danger to him in Bethesda.

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It's a scam. Just like speed cameras.

Yes, I hate those scams that are meant to keep people safer, especially when it is children they’re trying to keep safer!

Yes. The kid might've drown crossing the creek between the school bus and my car, on the other side of the median.

You sound like a complete idiot.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Or we could teach kids not to run in to the middle of on coming traffic without looking. Hmm....

Kids are kids. They don't have the perceptual judgment or the motor skills of adults. If you expect them to cross the street like an adult without disabilities -- well, they won't. So either drivers add a few seconds to their trips waiting for a stopped school bus, or kids die. Which do you prefer?

https://now.uiowa.edu/2017/04/why-children-struggle-cross-busy-streets-safely

I think you should certainly have to slow down around buses, pay attention and proceed at 5 mph. But the whole stopping both sides of the street while the kids slowly get off the bus is such a PITA. You are acting like there is either flying past buses at 35 mph and killing a kid or stopping completely but there is an in between.

Let's say you have to stop and sit there for 1 minute. Or even 2 minutes! Is that really too much to ask?

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Anonymous wrote:Or we could teach kids not to run in to the middle of on coming traffic without looking. Hmm....

Kids are kids. They don't have the perceptual judgment or the motor skills of adults. If you expect them to cross the street like an adult without disabilities -- well, they won't. So either drivers add a few seconds to their trips waiting for a stopped school bus, or kids die. Which do you prefer?

https://now.uiowa.edu/2017/04/why-children-struggle-cross-busy-streets-safely

I think you should certainly have to slow down around buses, pay attention and proceed at 5 mph. But the whole stopping both sides of the street while the kids slowly get off the bus is such a PITA. You are acting like there is either flying past buses at 35 mph and killing a kid or stopping completely but there is an in between.

Anonymous wrote:Or we could teach kids not to run in to the middle of on coming traffic without looking. Hmm....

Kids are kids. They don't have the perceptual judgment or the motor skills of adults. If you expect them to cross the street like an adult without disabilities -- well, they won't. So either drivers add a few seconds to their trips waiting for a stopped school bus, or kids die. Which do you prefer?

https://now.uiowa.edu/2017/04/why-children-struggle-cross-busy-streets-safely

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I got one for "passing" a school bus on the other side of a two lane road with a 30ft wide grass median with creek running down the middle of it! There was no possible way a kid could've gotten from the bus to in front of my car without getting in the creek up to his knees. Still got a ticket though.


It's a scam. Just like speed cameras.

Same. Pissed me off. $250. I’m appealing it.

In your case you should not have gotten a ticket and you should appeal it.



OP- did the lights flash yellow before turning red?

Anonymous wrote:With all the dash cam footage I have amassed of loaded school buses screwing up (running red lights, cutting off cars, etc.) I know this has nothing to do with the safety of children. Just a money grab. But thanks for playing.

Yeah, looking out for children and not asshole drivers is such a cash grab. You are not special. But you're a typical asshole entitled driver.

Keep it up.

Anonymous wrote:Or we could teach kids not to run in to the middle of on coming traffic without looking. Hmm....

I always love when asshole drivers try to deflect responsibility for not hitting and killing children onto......children.

Anonymous wrote:I got one for "passing" a school bus on the other side of a two lane road with a 30ft wide grass median with creek running down the middle of it! There was no possible way a kid could've gotten from the bus to in front of my car without getting in the creek up to his knees. Still got a ticket though.


It's a scam. Just like speed cameras.

Won't someone think of the drivers?

Anonymous wrote:Or we could teach kids not to run in to the middle of on coming traffic without looking. Hmm....

Most of us do this, but don’t assume a careless kid will never dart into the road. Hmm....

It stinks, but I would pay it and move on.

FWIW, when I see a school bus slowing I anticipate that they will put their lights on any second and act accordingly.

Anonymous wrote:Or we could teach kids not to run in to the middle of on coming traffic without looking. Hmm....

We can’t even seem to adults, who profess themselves to be so smart and reasonable, to exercise extra caution around school buses at all times, especially when they see them stopped

Model to your children that you’re always in a rush... see what they learn.

Or we could teach kids not to run in to the middle of on coming traffic without looking. Hmm....