Interesting that all the movement is in EA apps: 24,950 this year vs. 21, 573 last. RD apps stagnated at 15,854 this year vs. 15,632 last. We'll see if the yield drops with the increase in apps. EA is the better pool and these kids apparently feel they have to apply early to everything these days to have a chance. Wonder if in state EA numbers were up or if most or all of the increase was from out of state.

Anonymous wrote:Man when I was applying to college a 3.6 (I don't think we had this unweighted/weighted business back then) and anything over a 1350 on the SAT would give you a chance of getting in. Now I feel old and am terrified for potential kids!

+1 It was a totally different ballgame when I was applying to colleges in the '80s.

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Anonymous wrote:DD denied. OOS. 36 GPA. 3.9 UW GPA. Admitted to other top 20 schools. Not her top choice so it’s fine.

Unfortunately the state schools only care about weighted GPA’s

DD's weighted was not super high, but her school weighs it differently than public schools and APs not offered until junior year. She has a rigorous course load for her school. Anyway, I think I now realize why she was denied. Her private school includes kids from all over DMV...about half from VA, but she is an MD resident. So I think that is what killed her chances. Luckily she got into her first choice school, so all is good.

Anonymous wrote:Man when I was applying to college a 3.6 (I don't think we had this unweighted/weighted business back then) and anything over a 1350 on the SAT would give you a chance of getting in. Now I feel old and am terrified for potential kids!

Well many public schools curve and inflate grades now. That is getting out of hand. Really hard to tell these days. In Montgomery County Honors English (which basically everybody but remedial take) gives a full 1.0 increase in GPA. And their grading is messed up too. If you get a 79.5 and a 89.5 that equals an A. Since it is honors it is a 5.0 GPA for that class. They also allow retakes on tests, nothing below a 50%, and did away with final exams since most people were failing them. Then they sit and boast how great their school district is. So no, I don’t feel bad for the kids. If anything it gives them a false sense and not much accountability.

Man when I was applying to college a 3.6 (I don't think we had this unweighted/weighted business back then) and anything over a 1350 on the SAT would give you a chance of getting in. Now I feel old and am terrified for potential kids!

My DC sat down with an alumni rep last year in Cville and had her transcript looked over to inform us how Admissions views her course load. Admissions looks at each core subject and checks to see if the student took the most rigorous class offered. They also check the APs taken, and look at your foreign language taken. It’s a checklist they go through.

When UVA says they value your course load over GPA and test scores, they mean it.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow, a third generation legacy with a 1560 SAT and a weighted 4.3, science olympiad, 6 IB classes, etc. was deferred.

I hope this is a troll because it would be depressing for DC in RD if not!

If your DC is in an IB school, you know that the number of IB courses isn't the same as getting the full diploma or having HLs in hard subjects. You could have 6 IB courses that are all standard level. That would not be an especially competitive curriculum.

If colleges think like you do, they definitely know little about IB. SL classes can be very rigorous, and at schools where there is no AP but only IB, there is a lot of incentive to ensure those SL courses are tough. They become the "most rigorous classes offered by your high school."

The IB diploma actually does allow three HL and three SL classes to achieve the full diploma.

Not here to start the old AP-IB debate, just noting that IB students not going for the full diploma can and do take both SL and HL courses a la carte just like the way other students take AP courses. I think you haven't seen the difference between IB SL and regular "honors" classes.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow, a third generation legacy with a 1560 SAT and a weighted 4.3, science olympiad, 6 IB classes, etc. was deferred.

I hope this is a troll because it would be depressing for DC in RD if not!

My niece is OOS with similar stats. Also deferred.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow, a third generation legacy with a 1560 SAT and a weighted 4.3, science olympiad, 6 IB classes, etc. was deferred.

I hope this is a troll because it would be depressing for DC in RD if not!

If your DC is in an IB school, you know that the number of IB courses isn't the same as getting the full diploma or having HLs in hard subjects. You could have 6 IB courses that are all standard level. That would not be an especially competitive curriculum.

Anonymous wrote:Wow, a third generation legacy with a 1560 SAT and a weighted 4.3, science olympiad, 6 IB classes, etc. was deferred.

I hope this is a troll because it would be depressing for DC in RD if not!

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Anonymous wrote:NoVA; 3.7 unweighted; 4.06 weighted; 32 ACT; 10 AP classes; lots of extracurriculars = Accepted

Wow. You got lucky.

Even UMD is rejecting those stats.

You're probably right. I guess there was just that something special that shone through in the essays and teacher recommendation.

I like that. I want to see a more holistic approach. Not all great students are great test takers.

URM? Lower performing NoVa public?

No and no.

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Anonymous wrote:NoVA; 3.7 unweighted; 4.06 weighted; 32 ACT; 10 AP classes; lots of extracurriculars = Accepted

Wow. You got lucky.

Even UMD is rejecting those stats.

yeah, OK

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Anonymous wrote:NoVA; 3.7 unweighted; 4.06 weighted; 32 ACT; 10 AP classes; lots of extracurriculars = Accepted

Wow. You got lucky.

Even UMD is rejecting those stats.

You're probably right. I guess there was just that something special that shone through in the essays and teacher recommendation.

I like that. I want to see a more holistic approach. Not all great students are great test takers.

URM? Lower performing NoVa public?

Rich white kid?

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Anonymous wrote:NoVA; 3.7 unweighted; 4.06 weighted; 32 ACT; 10 AP classes; lots of extracurriculars = Accepted

Wow. You got lucky.

Even UMD is rejecting those stats.

You're probably right. I guess there was just that something special that shone through in the essays and teacher recommendation.

I like that. I want to see a more holistic approach. Not all great students are great test takers.

That’s a 98% score - kid is a fine test taker.

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Anonymous wrote:NoVA; 3.7 unweighted; 4.06 weighted; 32 ACT; 10 AP classes; lots of extracurriculars = Accepted

Wow. You got lucky.

Even UMD is rejecting those stats.

You're probably right. I guess there was just that something special that shone through in the essays and teacher recommendation.

I like that. I want to see a more holistic approach. Not all great students are great test takers.

URM? Lower performing NoVa public?