Anonymous wrote:So, how many right wing evangelicals are going to step up to adopt the desperately ill children that they don't want aborted?

Some of whom may only survive for days or weeks, or cost hundreds of thousands of dollars to keep alive for a couple years.

***crickets***

But they are all on social media moaning.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2017/apr/18/late-term-abortion-experience-donald-trump

“Abortions that occur at this stage in pregnancy are often the result of tragic diagnoses and are exactly the scenarios wherein patients need their doctors, and not obstructive politicians,”

Case #1
"Their daughter had moderate to severe Dandy-Walker malformation. But that wasn’t the only diagnosis; Laurel also had a brain condition in which fluid builds up in the ventricles, eventually developing into hydrocephalus and possibly crushing her brain. She had a congenital disorder too, in which there was complete or partial absence of the broad band of nerve fibers joining the two hemispheres of the brain.

What this meant was Laurel was expected to never walk, talk, or swallow. That was if she survived birth.
Kate asked her doctor: “What can a baby like mine do? Sleep all the time?
“Babies like yours are not generally comfortable enough to sleep,” the neurologist said.

Case 2
The diagnosis came in the form of a dense two-page MRI report. The fast-growing, inoperable tumor had grown into her brain, heart, and lungs. It had wrapped around her neck, eyes, and deep into her chest. It was so invasive, it was pushing her tongue out of her mouth.
Her chances of living to the age of viability or birth were slim. Lindsey and Matt made the heartbreaking decision to follow through with an abortion at about 24 weeks.

So folks, Catholics and Evangelicals, step up and absorb the coats of having these children. Invite the mom to live with you, and take care of her, so the dad can work.

Step up and pay their hundreds of thousands of dollars of medical bills.

If you think these women are "whores" who just can't be bothered to have a baby, you are 100% wrong.

It doesn't take much time to moan on social media though.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.cbsnews.com/news/new-york-passes-abortion-bill-late-term-if-mothers-health-is-at-risk-today-2019-01-23/

If you dive inti the text of the bill, it becomes apparent that it's so much more than just a full term abortion law. It also effectively allows for post birth abortion, and removes medical qualifications for those people who perform abortions.

It's now harder to be a tattoo artist in NY than perform an abortion.

Is this what we want?

It allows nurse practitioners, licensed midwives, and physician assistants to perform some abortions. How is being in one of those categories “easier” than being a tattoo artist?

Being a licensed midwife is just a matter of paying the license fee and passing a simple test.

It's harder to be a tatto artist

Tattoo artists have completed a master’s or higher degree program in midwifery or a related field that is:
* registered by the Department as licensure qualifying; or
* accredited by the American College of Nurse Midwives Division of Accreditation*; or
* determined by the Department to be equivalent of such a registered** or accredited program?

Huh.

http://www.op.nysed.gov/prof/midwife/midwifelic.htm

So nowhere close to being a doctor.

Are you concerned about midwives delivering babies, too? Or just prescribing RU-486?

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Anonymous wrote:OP please give us statistics for how many abortions occur after viability and please tell us the reasons women seek out such abortions at that stage. Real life cases please, not just something you made up.

Until you can discuss these things there is no use taking with you about anything.

If it happens ONCE, that's enough.

Nope not until you tell us the reasons why women seek out abortions after about 20 weeks. Are you afraid to discuss them?

The child lacks organs that make that child viable... like a heart.

So OP thinks a woman should be forced to go to 40 weeks and undergo L&D with a fetus that cannot live? She needs to spend the second half of her pregnancy waiting for it to die? That is brutal.

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Anonymous wrote:This crazy NYS law goes waaaay beyond Roe v. Wade.

I am pro-choice and this is NUTZ.

1/2 the country has the same law... Colorado... now that is a state with a wide open law.

WV, AK and MS allow for full term abortions, without the mother's health being an issue. The OP is barking up the wrong tree here. Send your outrage to those red states.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.cbsnews.com/news/new-york-passes-abortion-bill-late-term-if-mothers-health-is-at-risk-today-2019-01-23/



If you dive inti the text of the bill, it becomes apparent that it's so much more than just a full term abortion law. It also effectively allows for post birth abortion, and removes medical qualifications for those people who perform abortions.

It's now harder to be a tattoo artist in NY than perform an abortion.




Is this what we want?

It allows nurse practitioners, licensed midwives, and physician assistants to perform some abortions. How is being in one of those categories “easier” than being a tattoo artist?

Being a licensed midwife is just a matter of paying the license fee and passing a simple test.

It's harder to be a tatto artist

That’s a flat out lie. You have to complete a rigorous program at the minimum of a master’s degree level with stringent requirements. Read the education requirements.

http://www.op.nysed.gov/prof/midwife/midwifelic.htm

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.cbsnews.com/news/new-york-passes-abortion-bill-late-term-if-mothers-health-is-at-risk-today-2019-01-23/

If you dive inti the text of the bill, it becomes apparent that it's so much more than just a full term abortion law. It also effectively allows for post birth abortion, and removes medical qualifications for those people who perform abortions.

It's now harder to be a tattoo artist in NY than perform an abortion.

Is this what we want?

It allows nurse practitioners, licensed midwives, and physician assistants to perform some abortions. How is being in one of those categories “easier” than being a tattoo artist?

Being a licensed midwife is just a matter of paying the license fee and passing a simple test.

It's harder to be a tatto artist

Tattoo artists have completed a master’s or higher degree program in midwifery or a related field that is:
* registered by the Department as licensure qualifying; or
* accredited by the American College of Nurse Midwives Division of Accreditation*; or
* determined by the Department to be equivalent of such a registered** or accredited program?

Huh.

http://www.op.nysed.gov/prof/midwife/midwifelic.htm

So nowhere close to being a doctor.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.cbsnews.com/news/new-york-passes-abortion-bill-late-term-if-mothers-health-is-at-risk-today-2019-01-23/



If you dive inti the text of the bill, it becomes apparent that it's so much more than just a full term abortion law. It also effectively allows for post birth abortion, and removes medical qualifications for those people who perform abortions.

It's now harder to be a tattoo artist in NY than perform an abortion.


Is this what we want?

It's harder to become a tattoo artist in NY than to become a doctor?

Yea.... NO.

You don't need to be a Dr to perform an abortion. Even a midwife can do it now.

DP.. and what do you think is involved in becoming a midwife? Did you even bother to find that out before posting your ignorance all over the internet?

https://www.nursepractitionerschools.com/faq/how-to-become-nurse-midwife

The nurse-midwife (NM), now more commmonly referred to as the certified nurse-midwife (CNM), is a highly trained, advanced practice registered nurse (APRN) who specializes in primary and reproductive care for women and their babies...
The ACNM issued a position statement declaring that as of 2010, a Master’s degree be the baseline educational requirement for entry into clinical practice as a Certified Nurse-Midwife (CNM) or Certified Midwife (CM)

Anonymous wrote:This crazy NYS law goes waaaay beyond Roe v. Wade.

I am pro-choice and this is NUTZ.

1/2 the country has the same law... Colorado... now that is a state with a wide open law.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.cbsnews.com/news/new-york-passes-abortion-bill-late-term-if-mothers-health-is-at-risk-today-2019-01-23/

If you dive inti the text of the bill, it becomes apparent that it's so much more than just a full term abortion law. It also effectively allows for post birth abortion, and removes medical qualifications for those people who perform abortions.

It's now harder to be a tattoo artist in NY than perform an abortion.

Is this what we want?

It allows nurse practitioners, licensed midwives, and physician assistants to perform some abortions. How is being in one of those categories “easier” than being a tattoo artist?

Being a licensed midwife is just a matter of paying the license fee and passing a simple test.

It's harder to be a tatto artist

Tattoo artists have completed a master’s or higher degree program in midwifery or a related field that is:
* registered by the Department as licensure qualifying; or
* accredited by the American College of Nurse Midwives Division of Accreditation*; or
* determined by the Department to be equivalent of such a registered** or accredited program?

Huh.

http://www.op.nysed.gov/prof/midwife/midwifelic.htm

Anonymous wrote:Wait until there's a way to predict if an unborn child is going to be LGBTQ.

The same people championing this law now will be frantically writing exceptions to it then.

Since when is LGBTQ a threat to a woman's health?

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Anonymous wrote:Post birth abortion? LOL. Yeah okay

What else would you choose to call a procedure that kills a fetus that has been inadvertently born durning an abortion?

That is not the goal of the law and I do not believe this happens on a remotely regular basis. If it does it is a tragic accident. No one is murdering viable children.

If a fetus is born, alive, as the result of a botched procedure, it is likely a viable human.

Dr Kermit Gosnell is in prison for things that are completely legal now thanks to this bill.

Okay— I read the law text and I can’t find anything that supports the above statement about Gosnell-type crimes being legalized. Where in the text are you getting this?

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Anonymous wrote:OP please give us statistics for how many abortions occur after viability and please tell us the reasons women seek out such abortions at that stage. Real life cases please, not just something you made up.

Until you can discuss these things there is no use taking with you about anything.

If it happens ONCE, that's enough.

Nope not until you tell us the reasons why women seek out abortions after about 20 weeks. Are you afraid to discuss them?

The child lacks organs that make that child viable... like a heart.

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Anonymous wrote:Post birth abortion? LOL. Yeah okay

What else would you choose to call a procedure that kills a fetus that has been inadvertently born durning an abortion?

It's called dying when an fetus that is not viable outside the womb dies.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP please give us statistics for how many abortions occur after viability and please tell us the reasons women seek out such abortions at that stage. Real life cases please, not just something you made up.

Until you can discuss these things there is no use taking with you about anything.

If it happens ONCE, that's enough.

Nope not until you tell us the reasons why women seek out abortions after about 20 weeks. Are you afraid to discuss them?

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.cbsnews.com/news/new-york-passes-abortion-bill-late-term-if-mothers-health-is-at-risk-today-2019-01-23/



If you dive inti the text of the bill, it becomes apparent that it's so much more than just a full term abortion law. It also effectively allows for post birth abortion, and removes medical qualifications for those people who perform abortions.

It's now harder to be a tattoo artist in NY than perform an abortion.




Is this what we want?

It's harder to become a tattoo artist in NY than to become a doctor?

Yea.... NO.

You don't need to be a Dr to perform an abortion. Even a midwife can do it now.