Anonymous wrote:I was always troubled by the study guide. It was like a draft of the exam...don't bother with chapter 3...or any dates.

I think study guides are a detriment to the students. The actually never cover all the topics on the test, just the main ones, and kids are always surprised to find questions on topics they didn't study because they weren't on the study guide.

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Anonymous wrote:Please help me understand. My DC will have an honors Algebra II exam on Wednesday- but teacher did not provide study guide. Teacher told kids didn't know what was on exam because it was written by the county.

This seems crazy.

MCPS HS teacher here. This is a troll post. There is no situation where this could happen. We are given guides with clear instructions.

Folks forever creating fake posts to sh*t on MCPS. Why?

I’m not fake that’s what my DD told me. She ended up with a 91 on the exam ( even without a guide) though she only has an 89 overall. She had an 85 on the quarterly assessment.

Maybe the teacher does not support the use of study guides and that was her excuse.

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Anonymous wrote:Please help me understand. My DC will have an honors Algebra II exam on Wednesday- but teacher did not provide study guide. Teacher told kids didn't know what was on exam because it was written by the county.

This seems crazy.

MCPS HS teacher here. This is a troll post. There is no situation where this could happen. We are given guides with clear instructions.

Folks forever creating fake posts to sh*t on MCPS. Why?

I’m not fake that’s what my DD told me. She ended up with a 91 on the exam ( even without a guide) though she only has an 89 overall. She had an 85 on the quarterly assessment.

Anonymous wrote:Please help me understand. My DC will have an honors Algebra II exam on Wednesday- but teacher did not provide study guide. Teacher told kids didn't know what was on exam because it was written by the county.

This seems crazy.

MCPS HS teacher here. This is a troll post. There is no situation where this could happen. We are given guides with clear instructions.

Folks forever creating fake posts to sh*t on MCPS. Why?

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I think this discussion is in regard to this chart: https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/uploadedFiles/schools/poolesvillehs/departments/math/MathPathways.pdf

and there is no arrow that leads from algebra 2 to honors algebra 2, because that would not qualify for credit. There is two year algebra 2, but that's a different course. Regardless, what the other PP is interested in is not a "pathway" but what's appropriate for a special circumstance. Absolutely, students jump from non-honors to honors track and vice versa. What you can't do is skip a class. My DC took honors algebra 2 in a mixed classroom, it just required a couple extra problems here and there, honors precalc is going fine.

Can you not read? The algebra 2 to honors algebra 2 is right in the middle of the doc (9th to 10th)? There is no pathway that leads from regular algebra 2 to honors precal.

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I have no idea how Poolesville can have that as a pathway, because it is absolutely not an approved MCPS math pathway. The document is from 2016 - may not be current.

DS was in regular Algebra II (as a 10th grader) for the fall semester. He has done very well.

In early Nov., his teacher recommended that he switch to Honors Algebra II for the spring semester.

He's not sure that he wants to make the switch for the spring.

Next year he will look at pre-calc or honors pre-calc.
...just wanted to find out if anyone was successful at going from non-honors Algebra II to honors pre-calc.

Yes, you can switch mid-year from a regular level version of a course to an honors version of a course, and vice versa. If your math teacher is making a recommendation to switch now from Alg 2 to Honors Alg 2, I would do it. You will be better prepared for Honors Precalc than going in from regular Precalc.

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Anonymous wrote:OPP you have to take Honors Algebra 2 to be in Honors PreCal next at our school (Poolesville). If you take regular then you either take regular Pre Cal or Honors Algebra 2 the following year.

I don't think this is correct, the prerequisite is algebra 2 and teacher recommendation, if the teacher is recommending switching to honors mid year, odds are good the second semester alg 2 teacher would also recommend honors pre cacl. Check with the counselor. Anyway, no one would take honors algebra 2 after successfully completing algebra 2.

Thanks.

If you google PHS pathways... the recommended pathways are either non-honors pre-cal or honors algebra II- but maybe it's different at different schools.

But there actually isn't a pathway that includes algebra 2 -> hon algebra 2 (there is two-year algebra 2 which is different) and I don't think that would be possible because it's two credits for the same material. And, I'm not saying it's a standard pathway, just that it shouldn't be prohibited, and the fact that the student is already being recommended to jump track, is a sign that an exception is probably in order. Honors track requires teacher approval, but the only prerequisite is an algebra 2 credit.

There absolutely is a pathway from algebra 2 to honors algebra 2 but feel comfortable in thinking they are the same class when your kid gets into honors pre-Cal. Let me know how it works out.

I think this discussion is in regard to this chart: https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/uploadedFiles/schools/poolesvillehs/departments/math/MathPathways.pdf

and there is no arrow that leads from algebra 2 to honors algebra 2, because that would not qualify for credit. There is two year algebra 2, but that's a different course. Regardless, what the other PP is interested in is not a "pathway" but what's appropriate for a special circumstance. Absolutely, students jump from non-honors to honors track and vice versa. What you can't do is skip a class. My DC took honors algebra 2 in a mixed classroom, it just required a couple extra problems here and there, honors precalc is going fine.

Can you not read? The algebra 2 to honors algebra 2 is right in the middle of the doc (9th to 10th)? There is no pathway that leads from regular algebra 2 to honors precal.

Sorry, you're right it's there. Still teacher recommendation is a pathway, that isn't necessarily charted out and repeating in honors algebra 2 would be some sort of remediation.

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Anonymous wrote:OPP you have to take Honors Algebra 2 to be in Honors PreCal next at our school (Poolesville). If you take regular then you either take regular Pre Cal or Honors Algebra 2 the following year.

I don't think this is correct, the prerequisite is algebra 2 and teacher recommendation, if the teacher is recommending switching to honors mid year, odds are good the second semester alg 2 teacher would also recommend honors pre cacl. Check with the counselor. Anyway, no one would take honors algebra 2 after successfully completing algebra 2.

Thanks.

If you google PHS pathways... the recommended pathways are either non-honors pre-cal or honors algebra II- but maybe it's different at different schools.

But there actually isn't a pathway that includes algebra 2 -> hon algebra 2 (there is two-year algebra 2 which is different) and I don't think that would be possible because it's two credits for the same material. And, I'm not saying it's a standard pathway, just that it shouldn't be prohibited, and the fact that the student is already being recommended to jump track, is a sign that an exception is probably in order. Honors track requires teacher approval, but the only prerequisite is an algebra 2 credit.

There absolutely is a pathway from algebra 2 to honors algebra 2 but feel comfortable in thinking they are the same class when your kid gets into honors pre-Cal. Let me know how it works out.

I think this discussion is in regard to this chart: https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/uploadedFiles/schools/poolesvillehs/departments/math/MathPathways.pdf

and there is no arrow that leads from algebra 2 to honors algebra 2, because that would not qualify for credit. There is two year algebra 2, but that's a different course. Regardless, what the other PP is interested in is not a "pathway" but what's appropriate for a special circumstance. Absolutely, students jump from non-honors to honors track and vice versa. What you can't do is skip a class. My DC took honors algebra 2 in a mixed classroom, it just required a couple extra problems here and there, honors precalc is going fine.

Can you not read? The algebra 2 to honors algebra 2 is right in the middle of the doc (9th to 10th)? There is no pathway that leads from regular algebra 2 to honors precal.

We are not at Poolesville, and just to be clear, I am not talking about repeating Algebra II as an honors course the following year (hence taking it twice).

DS was in regular Algebra II (as a 10th grader) for the fall semester. He has done very well.

In early Nov., his teacher recommended that he switch to Honors Algebra II for the spring semester.

He's not sure that he wants to make the switch for the spring.

Next year he will look at pre-calc or honors pre-calc.
...just wanted to find out if anyone was successful at going from non-honors Algebra II to honors pre-calc.

Sorry to be so confusing! Thannks.

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Anonymous wrote:OPP you have to take Honors Algebra 2 to be in Honors PreCal next at our school (Poolesville). If you take regular then you either take regular Pre Cal or Honors Algebra 2 the following year.

I don't think this is correct, the prerequisite is algebra 2 and teacher recommendation, if the teacher is recommending switching to honors mid year, odds are good the second semester alg 2 teacher would also recommend honors pre cacl. Check with the counselor. Anyway, no one would take honors algebra 2 after successfully completing algebra 2.

Thanks.

If you google PHS pathways... the recommended pathways are either non-honors pre-cal or honors algebra II- but maybe it's different at different schools.

But there actually isn't a pathway that includes algebra 2 -> hon algebra 2 (there is two-year algebra 2 which is different) and I don't think that would be possible because it's two credits for the same material. And, I'm not saying it's a standard pathway, just that it shouldn't be prohibited, and the fact that the student is already being recommended to jump track, is a sign that an exception is probably in order. Honors track requires teacher approval, but the only prerequisite is an algebra 2 credit.

There absolutely is a pathway from algebra 2 to honors algebra 2 but feel comfortable in thinking they are the same class when your kid gets into honors pre-Cal. Let me know how it works out.

I think this discussion is in regard to this chart: https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/uploadedFiles/schools/poolesvillehs/departments/math/MathPathways.pdf

and there is no arrow that leads from algebra 2 to honors algebra 2, because that would not qualify for credit. There is two year algebra 2, but that's a different course. Regardless, what the other PP is interested in is not a "pathway" but what's appropriate for a special circumstance. Absolutely, students jump from non-honors to honors track and vice versa. What you can't do is skip a class. My DC took honors algebra 2 in a mixed classroom, it just required a couple extra problems here and there, honors precalc is going fine.

My child had a similar experience in Honors Geometry (9th grade)-- studied a lot, got a D on the test, and was told it was from the county and could not be reviewed or retaken. this will bring DC's grade down from a B to a C in the class. Very frustrating. They have also had a series of substitute teachers in that class this semester, which hasn't helped.

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Anonymous wrote:OPP you have to take Honors Algebra 2 to be in Honors PreCal next at our school (Poolesville). If you take regular then you either take regular Pre Cal or Honors Algebra 2 the following year.

I don't think this is correct, the prerequisite is algebra 2 and teacher recommendation, if the teacher is recommending switching to honors mid year, odds are good the second semester alg 2 teacher would also recommend honors pre cacl. Check with the counselor. Anyway, no one would take honors algebra 2 after successfully completing algebra 2.

Thanks.

If you google PHS pathways... the recommended pathways are either non-honors pre-cal or honors algebra II- but maybe it's different at different schools.

But there actually isn't a pathway that includes algebra 2 -> hon algebra 2 (there is two-year algebra 2 which is different) and I don't think that would be possible because it's two credits for the same material. And, I'm not saying it's a standard pathway, just that it shouldn't be prohibited, and the fact that the student is already being recommended to jump track, is a sign that an exception is probably in order. Honors track requires teacher approval, but the only prerequisite is an algebra 2 credit.

There absolutely is a pathway from algebra 2 to honors algebra 2 but feel comfortable in thinking they are the same class when your kid gets into honors pre-Cal. Let me know how it works out.

Anonymous wrote:At our school, anyone who has passed Alg II could sign up for Honors PreCalc. However, dd said teacher was discouraging it because Honors pre-calc is so much harder than Honors Alg II. Teacher said you should treat it as if it were an AP class. (doesn't count as one, but is the same work load).

It's a big jump for everyone, mostly because the 2.0 curriculum is poor preparation. The flavor of algebra 2 doesn't make much difference, being ready to work hard to catch up in precalc is what's needed.

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Anonymous wrote:OPP you have to take Honors Algebra 2 to be in Honors PreCal next at our school (Poolesville). If you take regular then you either take regular Pre Cal or Honors Algebra 2 the following year.

I don't think this is correct, the prerequisite is algebra 2 and teacher recommendation, if the teacher is recommending switching to honors mid year, odds are good the second semester alg 2 teacher would also recommend honors pre cacl. Check with the counselor. Anyway, no one would take honors algebra 2 after successfully completing algebra 2.

Thanks.

If you google PHS pathways... the recommended pathways are either non-honors pre-cal or honors algebra II- but maybe it's different at different schools.

But there actually isn't a pathway that includes algebra 2 -> hon algebra 2 (there is two-year algebra 2 which is different) and I don't think that would be possible because it's two credits for the same material. And, I'm not saying it's a standard pathway, just that it shouldn't be prohibited, and the fact that the student is already being recommended to jump track, is a sign that an exception is probably in order. Honors track requires teacher approval, but the only prerequisite is an algebra 2 credit.