Anonymous
Post 01/17/2019 08:57     Subject: Re:Karen Pence is Teaching at School that Bars LGBT Students and Teachers
As a parent of kids in public schools, I'd rather have her teaching at one of these schools than at a public school. Same with anyone who attended Oral Roberts, Liberty, or Bob Jones University.
Anonymous
Post 01/17/2019 08:57     Subject: Karen Pence is Teaching at School that Bars LGBT Students and Teachers
What part of “private” don’t you understand, OP?


If it was a school that banned the children of republicans, or of gun owners, or anyone else you didn’t like, you’d be fighting for their right to discriminate, as they are a private institution.

Anonymous
Post 01/17/2019 08:38     Subject: Karen Pence is Teaching at School that Bars LGBT Students and Teachers
Anonymous wrote:Christians, fighting hard to put Christ back into Christmas while skipping keeping Christ in Christianity.



Anonymous
Post 01/17/2019 08:28     Subject: Re:Karen Pence is Teaching at School that Bars LGBT Students and Teachers
Anonymous wrote:This means Pence will never be a successful presidential candidate. Most ambitious Vice Presidents wives launch a First Lady type initiative to lend a sympathetic, caring tone to their men.

She's probably filling the family's coffers because defense lawyers are expensive and Pence is in Russiagate up to his lying eyeballs.


Teaching art at a private Christian school aint exactly going to fill the coffers.
Anonymous
Post 01/17/2019 08:09     Subject: Karen Pence is Teaching at School that Bars LGBT Students and Teachers
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Funny that this thread is about teaching art to Christian children and it's one of the most vitriolic, profane exchanges on this board (which is saying a lot).

Did we hit a nerve, Trumpies?



uh . . . Who was originally butthurt?


OP is taking offense at Pence's new teaching position. Remember that this is a private school embracing a religious philosophy. Many religions either condone homosexuality or just barely tolerate it. As a former Catholic who attended Catholic school, I can share what the beliefs were. Sue, you can be gay but don't act on those "impulses." So you either follow the rules or move on.

It is what it is.

So this is where I just have to laugh at the hypocrisy of the neo liberals, which is an appropriate term these days. You'll fight to the death to be "inclusive" in SOME cases but will attack when a religion excludes certain people and forbids specific practices.

Let's look at a woman's right to cover. You must know that the Koran is not gay-friendly. But if she sends her child to a school steeped in "true" Islamic doctirne (as in what's in the Koran is right), do you "love the sinner but hate the sin?"

And what's the sin in this case? her belief system? which is, by the way, the same "extended" doctrine which encourages her to cover

Would you become angry is this woman were president or First Lady?

You can't have it both ways.


Just as long as you acknowledge that these same people crying about religious liberty would be raging at a second lady going to teach at a madrasa.

We get it. Karen Pence thinks a huge number of American citizens should suppress their true selves or face eternity in hell. It is equally valid that those Americans and their family/friends have an equal right to think Karen Pence is a looney whose ideas are psychologically harmful. She doesn’t accept them for who they are and they don’t accept her for who she is. Freedom!


You will have liberals and conservatives aghast at the thought of a first lady teaching at an Islamic institute.

No one fits into a box. My good friend is from Iran. They were all practicing until they hit the US - all at a very age. Suddenly, there's a Christmas tree in the house. She married a Christian and they baptized their baby. Her mother covered until she moved here. their choice to "adapt, to be "flexible" regarding their beliefs

So where do they fit into the picture?

There is no UNITED States. We are pockets of tiny agendas floating around the country. Sometimes one pocket absorbs its neighboring pocket. Other times, the pockets are at war.

Unless there's harm being done - and that's another gray area to define - we should just float around in our pockets, as likes will always attract likes, right?
Anonymous
Post 01/17/2019 08:02     Subject: Karen Pence is Teaching at School that Bars LGBT Students and Teachers
Anonymous wrote:Is Karen Pence trolling Jill Biden in the upsidedown?



I love you.
Anonymous
Post 01/17/2019 07:31     Subject: Karen Pence is Teaching at School that Bars LGBT Students and Teachers
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Funny that this thread is about teaching art to Christian children and it's one of the most vitriolic, profane exchanges on this board (which is saying a lot).

Did we hit a nerve, Trumpies?



uh . . . Who was originally butthurt?


OP is taking offense at Pence's new teaching position. Remember that this is a private school embracing a religious philosophy. Many religions either condone homosexuality or just barely tolerate it. As a former Catholic who attended Catholic school, I can share what the beliefs were. Sue, you can be gay but don't act on those "impulses." So you either follow the rules or move on.

It is what it is.

So this is where I just have to laugh at the hypocrisy of the neo liberals, which is an appropriate term these days. You'll fight to the death to be "inclusive" in SOME cases but will attack when a religion excludes certain people and forbids specific practices.

Let's look at a woman's right to cover. You must know that the Koran is not gay-friendly. But if she sends her child to a school steeped in "true" Islamic doctirne (as in what's in the Koran is right), do you "love the sinner but hate the sin?"

And what's the sin in this case? her belief system? which is, by the way, the same "extended" doctrine which encourages her to cover

Would you become angry is this woman were president or First Lady?

You can't have it both ways.


Just as long as you acknowledge that these same people crying about religious liberty would be raging at a second lady going to teach at a madrasa.

We get it. Karen Pence thinks a huge number of American citizens should suppress their true selves or face eternity in hell. It is equally valid that those Americans and their family/friends have an equal right to think Karen Pence is a looney whose ideas are psychologically harmful. She doesn’t accept them for who they are and they don’t accept her for who she is. Freedom!
Anonymous
Post 01/17/2019 07:21     Subject: Karen Pence is Teaching at School that Bars LGBT Students and Teachers
Anonymous wrote:Ben Shapiro on Twitter:

“Which is more discriminatory: a private school requiring that its voluntary attendees abide by a code of conduct, or people saying such a school should not exist because that school disagrees with their ideas?”


Or C) one group of people saying another group of people shouldn’t exist. I’ll go with C as most discriminatory.
Anonymous
Post 01/17/2019 07:21     Subject: Karen Pence is Teaching at School that Bars LGBT Students and Teachers
Anonymous wrote:Funny that this thread is about teaching art to Christian children and it's one of the most vitriolic, profane exchanges on this board (which is saying a lot).

Did we hit a nerve, Trumpies?



uh . . . Who was originally butthurt?


OP is taking offense at Pence's new teaching position. Remember that this is a private school embracing a religious philosophy. Many religions either condone homosexuality or just barely tolerate it. As a former Catholic who attended Catholic school, I can share what the beliefs were. Sue, you can be gay but don't act on those "impulses." So you either follow the rules or move on.

It is what it is.

So this is where I just have to laugh at the hypocrisy of the neo liberals, which is an appropriate term these days. You'll fight to the death to be "inclusive" in SOME cases but will attack when a religion excludes certain people and forbids specific practices.

Let's look at a woman's right to cover. You must know that the Koran is not gay-friendly. But if she sends her child to a school steeped in "true" Islamic doctirne (as in what's in the Koran is right), do you "love the sinner but hate the sin?"

And what's the sin in this case? her belief system? which is, by the way, the same "extended" doctrine which encourages her to cover

Would you become angry is this woman were president or First Lady?

You can't have it both ways.
Anonymous
Post 01/17/2019 07:19     Subject: Karen Pence is Teaching at School that Bars LGBT Students and Teachers
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ben Shapiro on Twitter:

“Which is more discriminatory: a private school requiring that its voluntary attendees abide by a code of conduct, or people saying such a school should not exist because that school disagrees with their ideas?”


Name one poster or person who has said the school “shouldn’t exist.” Thanks.


Me. I don't think it should exist. It's abusing children.

There's a difference between a church and a school.
Anonymous
Post 01/17/2019 07:17     Subject: Karen Pence is Teaching at School that Bars LGBT Students and Teachers
Anonymous wrote:Ben Shapiro on Twitter:

“Which is more discriminatory: a private school requiring that its voluntary attendees abide by a code of conduct, or people saying such a school should not exist because that school disagrees with their ideas?”


There's nothing discriminatory about saying the school should not be allowed to discriminate. It's a public accommodation. At the very least, it should never get a cent of public money and should be taxed like a for-profit.
Anonymous
Post 01/17/2019 07:15     Subject: Karen Pence is Teaching at School that Bars LGBT Students and Teachers
Anonymous wrote:These religious zealots are such hypocrites.....a pox on them all.


This. Imagine, in this day and age, harassing CHILDREN for being gay or gender non-conforming. It's child abuse.
Anonymous
Post 01/17/2019 07:03     Subject: Re:Karen Pence is Teaching at School that Bars LGBT Students and Teachers
Anonymous wrote:She's a hypocrite. A school that considers extramarital sex immoral while her husband fronts for a thrice married adulterer.


Exactly. The Pences are massive hypocrites!
Anonymous
Post 01/17/2019 07:01     Subject: Karen Pence is Teaching at School that Bars LGBT Students and Teachers
Anonymous wrote:Ben Shapiro on Twitter:

“Which is more discriminatory: a private school requiring that its voluntary attendees abide by a code of conduct, or people saying such a school should not exist because that school disagrees with their ideas?”


Name one poster or person who has said the school “shouldn’t exist.” Thanks.
Anonymous
Post 01/17/2019 06:59     Subject: Re:Karen Pence is Teaching at School that Bars LGBT Students and Teachers
Anonymous wrote:So what? It's a Christian school. Obviously many Christians believe that engaging in same sex sexual behavior is a sin. Are Christians now required to accept same sex relations?


It’s funny how when you put it like that you realize how much they have in common with conservative Muslims. Maybe some day they’ll realize that too.