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Anonymous wrote:Let the FARM outlier and maybe even a little bit more who's qualified, but didn't get as high academic achievement as 9As to go to a "home school" with strong cohort may make more sense than send them to a group with super outliers from a strong home school?

I am not normally the English language police on message boards, but this is incomprehensible.

I had to read it three times to understand his or her point.

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Anonymous wrote:If your child comes from a W-Feeder ES, I am curious what kind of stats it takes to get acceptance/waitlisted to a MS Magnet.


(There is another thread, but it has other types of information including acceptances in general, and I think information will get lost when it goes to 10+ pages.)

My kid got in, but we cared enough about our child's education to move to a feeder where there wasn't a large cohort of high-performers.

Troll.

+1. Not very smart one either

Anonymous wrote:Let the FARM outlier and maybe even a little bit more who's qualified, but didn't get as high academic achievement as 9As to go to a "home school" with strong cohort may make more sense than send them to a group with super outliers from a strong home school?

I am not normally the English language police on message boards, but this is incomprehensible.

Let the FARM outlier and maybe even a little bit more who's qualified, but didn't get as high academic achievement as 9As to go to a "home school" with strong cohort may make more sense than send them to a group with super outliers from a strong home school?

Anonymous wrote:Maybe test into EACH school you want is a solution for fairness- peer, cohort, race, curriculum...

That is essentially what happens, but you have to "test in" (CogAT, MAP and grades) when compared to YOUR home middle school, not your CES class or the county as a whole.

So, if your home middle school has a lot of students who are scoring in the 90th percentiles (nationally or MCPS) it takes a lot more to look like an outlier. It really isn't as hard as people keep making it seem.

If there are already a lot of high performing kids at the middle school, the middle school the kids have a peer group and agree with it or not, the county has been very clear in saying they are looking to ensure high performing kids have a peer group... and they are using the magnets to provide a peer group for those who do not have one at their home school. They haven't said the magnet is for the top xx kids at each school or the top xx kids in the county.

Maybe test into EACH school you want is a solution for fairness- peer, cohort, race, curriculum...

Anonymous wrote:What's the ratio of CES seats to magnet seats 3:1?

It's got to be close to that. There are what roughly 300 magnet seats for 13 centers many of which have two or more classes.

Anonymous wrote:What's the ratio of CES seats to magnet seats 3:1?

Good question. Even before the new process, there were not that many MS magnet seats. Increasing the overall applicant pool AND adding more CES seats in the last 2 years have significantly increased the ratio.

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Anonymous wrote:Well one of the Potomac CES schools used to send over half its class to the MS magnet and those were mostly Asian kids. This school and these kids consistently have the highest PARCC and MAP scores in the county. With the new change, only 1 or 2 kids were admitted.

You’re talking about last year. The question is this year.

Exactly, not that an anonymous post proves anything anyway, but so far no across the board 99s and rejection stories. There are people with one really good score and two mediocre scores, but not a slam dunk. There are people with well rounded but not perfect scores who are a little surprised their kid got in. Sounds like the process went smoother this year.

Of course, there are many 4*99% rejection. People are already used to it based on last year’s experience and can joke about it. It’s kind of an honor roll now.

Last year, MCPS did not report the MCPS averages, only National averages. I suspect many of the cross the board 99% rejections last year were not 99% across the board for the MCPS pool. That is why MCPS reported the new data this year and most likely why the board hasn't blown up compared to last year.

What's the ratio of CES seats to magnet seats 3:1?

Anonymous wrote:DC was accepted from their W feeder CES. Stats sound more or less the same as many that were rejected. Given the limited number of seats and thousands of qualified applicants could be random beyond a point.

Do you know how many kids are accepted from that CES?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well one of the Potomac CES schools used to send over half its class to the MS magnet and those were mostly Asian kids. This school and these kids consistently have the highest PARCC and MAP scores in the county. With the new change, only 1 or 2 kids were admitted.

You’re talking about last year. The question is this year.

Exactly, not that an anonymous post proves anything anyway, but so far no across the board 99s and rejection stories. There are people with one really good score and two mediocre scores, but not a slam dunk. There are people with well rounded but not perfect scores who are a little surprised their kid got in. Sounds like the process went smoother this year.

Of course, there are many 4*99% rejection. People are already used to it based on last year’s experience and can joke about it. It’s kind of an honor roll now.

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Anonymous wrote:Well one of the Potomac CES schools used to send over half its class to the MS magnet and those were mostly Asian kids. This school and these kids consistently have the highest PARCC and MAP scores in the county. With the new change, only 1 or 2 kids were admitted.

Really? I thought they were mostly American kids?

Race isn't a factor that can be considered, but it sounds like that school has such a strong cohort that a magnet would be superfluous.

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Anonymous wrote:If W feeders have such a strong cohort, there's no need for kids in those school's to attend a magnet.

But there is a need for a magnet curriculum. Or, at least some sort of curriculum for gifted learners.

+1,000,000!

Have you heard about the new enriched classes?

DC was accepted from their W feeder CES. Stats sound more or less the same as many that were rejected. Given the limited number of seats and thousands of qualified applicants could be random beyond a point.