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Anonymous wrote:So, what did you do with the math major? Genuinely interested.

NP

Have a 73 person company providing cryptographic support to public and private companies.

So you’re no different from that guy who has a chain of dry cleaners.

Anonymous wrote:Can’t stand the kid. Good luck to him all the same.

You sound like a lovely human being.

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1270 doesn't even get you into GMU engineering here. That's why no one takes Harvard seriously in academic circles. High intellects go to MIT, Cal tech, and Princeton.

For STEM, sure. "Academic circles" include more than STEM, but if you want to exclude everything else as non-academic, then I don't think you are talking about Academia in the general sense.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So, what did you do with the math major? Genuinely interested.

NP

Have a 73 person company providing cryptographic support to public and private companies.

You mean you started a small business with the BS degree, of which you are the CEO? (I'm not trying to challenge you -- I just don't understand the wording. I can't tell if you are in charge, or if it is thriving, or still ongoing, or what. I assume all is well.)

If so, good for you! Sounds like a needed and valued service.

I think SAT scores are a useful part of the picture, but they are only one part. Grit and drive will carry you far, so long as you can do the work. I think Hogg will do well in his chosen major (Poli Sci), even if he probably would not have done well in yours.

And sounds like you decided to leave secondary ed without a master's or PhD, because that was presumably not what you needed for what you wanted to do. We'll see what Hogg does.

Regardless, it's Harvard's discretion -- as a private institution -- to decide if he is likely to do well with what he has to bring to what they have to offer.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just another example of the lowest difficulty setting for white males.

He only had an SAT of 1270 and the average Harvard SAT is around 1500.

Preposterous comment reflecting no understanding of how competitive universities actually work. This is not a cookie-cutter exercise. The Harvard mean is a bit below 1500. The distribution in the lower percentages is wide but all of those applicants are distinguished in some respects. Some have extensive international backgrounds. Some are jocks. A tiny handful are armed forces veterans. A 1270 is in the top 15% nationally and is numerically tough to distinguish from the top 10%. He may not be at the top of the admissions range but he is definitely above the bottom. He has distinguished himself and he will do well.

It is more difficult to get into Harvard than to stay in Harvard. He will get through with activism and end up in politics. It is not like he is going into engineering, math, or medicine where intellect is needed.

Absolutely correct.

The number of mathematicians and physicists who amount to nothing is truly astounding given their supposed intellect. Hogg has already affected the nation.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just another example of the lowest difficulty setting for white males.

He only had an SAT of 1270 and the average Harvard SAT is around 1500.

Preposterous comment reflecting no understanding of how competitive universities actually work. This is not a cookie-cutter exercise. The Harvard mean is a bit below 1500. The distribution in the lower percentages is wide but all of those applicants are distinguished in some respects. Some have extensive international backgrounds. Some are jocks. A tiny handful are armed forces veterans. A 1270 is in the top 15% nationally and is numerically tough to distinguish from the top 10%. He may not be at the top of the admissions range but he is definitely above the bottom. He has distinguished himself and he will do well.

Actually this long-winded comment is the one that is less informed. Top 15% is not competitive for the top schools. Numbers are EASY to distinguish.

Hogg got in for other reasons. Just like Jared Kushner did. Deal.

The bottom 25% at Harvard have an average SAT score of 1460.

-TheCollegeFix

Read the whole thing. The bottom 25% of the upper 90% is a little shy of 1460. The bottom 10% of applicants measured --SOLELY-- by SAT are often so overwhelming in other respects that Harvard chooses to not count them in released averages.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just another example of the lowest difficulty setting for white males.

He only had an SAT of 1270 and the average Harvard SAT is around 1500.

Preposterous comment reflecting no understanding of how competitive universities actually work. This is not a cookie-cutter exercise. The Harvard mean is a bit below 1500. The distribution in the lower percentages is wide but all of those applicants are distinguished in some respects. Some have extensive international backgrounds. Some are jocks. A tiny handful are armed forces veterans. A 1270 is in the top 15% nationally and is numerically tough to distinguish from the top 10%. He may not be at the top of the admissions range but he is definitely above the bottom. He has distinguished himself and he will do well.

It is more difficult to get into Harvard than to stay in Harvard. He will get through with activism and end up in politics. It is not like he is going into engineering, math, or medicine where intellect is needed.

Absolutely correct.

It's way harder to master high level math and engineering, which takes years of persistent study and high IQ.

Sending BS tweets and organizing meaningless marches are much easier. Every single HS student can do that.

1270 doesn't even get you into GMU engineering here. That's why no one takes Harvard seriously in academic circles. High intellects go to MIT, Cal tech, and Princeton.

Here's a tip: Just because 95% of the general public can't do something does not make the remaining 5% superior. Undergraduate mathematicians are intellectually one trick ponies. I say this as a physics major who did most of the same math courses, because they were interesting to me. Yes, I took Topoology for Dummies just like you probably did.

They (and we) are really good at one or two things. But the undergraduate in math or physics is an infant in their field. What we can do upon graduation is useful because quantitative and analyitical skills are economically useful. But let's not get too full of ourselves. Unless we have something bigger to bring to the table, we are cogs in the machine just like the rest of the workforce.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just another example of the lowest difficulty setting for white males.

He only had an SAT of 1270 and the average Harvard SAT is around 1500.

Colleges use the SAT as a predictor of whether unknown students are likely to do well. I think he’s proven in other arenas that he’s likely to do well.

Harvard's acceptance rate is supposedly VERY low.

The 4.59 percent admission rate is the lowest of all the Ivy League schools this year.

https://www.boston.com/news/education/2018/03/29/harvard-acceptance-rate-2018

When did Harvard make the offer?

In the spring, he was vocal about being shut out of these campuses: UC Los Angeles, UC San Diego, UC Santa Barbara and UC Irvine. Harvard didn't make the offer at that point??? Or did it suddenly come to the rescue after he slammed a Conservative news personality?

You think that’s the only thing he’s done?

What?

I know why Harvard took him. He's a great PR piece for the university.

Again, I'm simply asking about timing. California schools didn't accept him at the time of the interview. After the interview - months later, I guess - he updates his fans about his acceptance into Harvard.

It's all in the timing.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just another example of the lowest difficulty setting for white males.

He only had an SAT of 1270 and the average Harvard SAT is around 1500.

Preposterous comment reflecting no understanding of how competitive universities actually work. This is not a cookie-cutter exercise. The Harvard mean is a bit below 1500. The distribution in the lower percentages is wide but all of those applicants are distinguished in some respects. Some have extensive international backgrounds. Some are jocks. A tiny handful are armed forces veterans. A 1270 is in the top 15% nationally and is numerically tough to distinguish from the top 10%. He may not be at the top of the admissions range but he is definitely above the bottom. He has distinguished himself and he will do well.

It is more difficult to get into Harvard than to stay in Harvard. He will get through with activism and end up in politics. It is not like he is going into engineering, math, or medicine where intellect is needed.

You have a fairly narrow definition of intellect. Obviously no genius yourself.

Developed my intellect as a math major Cal Tech after turning down Harvard. How about you?

Unimpressive to me. Math is easy until you are a PhD candidate.

Anonymous wrote:So, what did you do with the math major? Genuinely interested.

NP

Have a 73 person company providing cryptographic support to public and private companies.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just another example of the lowest difficulty setting for white males.

He only had an SAT of 1270 and the average Harvard SAT is around 1500.

Colleges use the SAT as a predictor of whether unknown students are likely to do well. I think he’s proven in other arenas that he’s likely to do well.

Harvard's acceptance rate is supposedly VERY low.

The 4.59 percent admission rate is the lowest of all the Ivy League schools this year.

https://www.boston.com/news/education/2018/03/29/harvard-acceptance-rate-2018

When did Harvard make the offer?

In the spring, he was vocal about being shut out of these campuses: UC Los Angeles, UC San Diego, UC Santa Barbara and UC Irvine. Harvard didn't make the offer at that point??? Or did it suddenly come to the rescue after he slammed a Conservative news personality?

You think that’s the only thing he’s done?

So, what did you do with the math major? Genuinely interested.

NP

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just another example of the lowest difficulty setting for white males.

He only had an SAT of 1270 and the average Harvard SAT is around 1500.

Preposterous comment reflecting no understanding of how competitive universities actually work. This is not a cookie-cutter exercise. The Harvard mean is a bit below 1500. The distribution in the lower percentages is wide but all of those applicants are distinguished in some respects. Some have extensive international backgrounds. Some are jocks. A tiny handful are armed forces veterans. A 1270 is in the top 15% nationally and is numerically tough to distinguish from the top 10%. He may not be at the top of the admissions range but he is definitely above the bottom. He has distinguished himself and he will do well.

It is more difficult to get into Harvard than to stay in Harvard. He will get through with activism and end up in politics. It is not like he is going into engineering, math, or medicine where intellect is needed.

You have a fairly narrow definition of intellect. Obviously no genius yourself.

Developed my intellect as a math major Cal Tech after turning down Harvard. How about you?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just another example of the lowest difficulty setting for white males.

He only had an SAT of 1270 and the average Harvard SAT is around 1500.

Preposterous comment reflecting no understanding of how competitive universities actually work. This is not a cookie-cutter exercise. The Harvard mean is a bit below 1500. The distribution in the lower percentages is wide but all of those applicants are distinguished in some respects. Some have extensive international backgrounds. Some are jocks. A tiny handful are armed forces veterans. A 1270 is in the top 15% nationally and is numerically tough to distinguish from the top 10%. He may not be at the top of the admissions range but he is definitely above the bottom. He has distinguished himself and he will do well.

It is more difficult to get into Harvard than to stay in Harvard. He will get through with activism and end up in politics. It is not like he is going into engineering, math, or medicine where intellect is needed.

Absolutely correct.