Anonymous
01/09/2019 21:47
Subject: Re:NNAT results December 2018
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:DD got the max, 160 points on NNAT
Don't get cocky! Wait and see how your DD does on the Cogats!
However the DD does on the Cogat, she will be in pool. Samples are not needed.
If her CogAT is under 132 then she will need sample. In pool does not mean that she is in AAP. From what I have read on this site, NNAT is weighed less then the CogAT because of how/what the NNAT tests. If the CogAT score is low, that 160 in the NNAT probably is meaningless.
Not to mention, there is plenty of anecdotal evidence that kids whose scores are too high are looked at with a great deal of skepticism because it could very well indicate that a student was prepped. So the test scores should be in line with the GBRSs and other indicators. So high test scores not matched with similar GBRSs are seen as problematic because the parents prepped the kid for the test.
Instead of focusing on the number, focus on helping your child enjoy school and make her best effort in class.
This quote cracks me up. Even if the kid was "prepped" the actual test is different. Its not like the answers are the same for the prep and actual NNAT
That's like saying my kid scored high on the SATs but he was "prepped"
Everyone knows you can teach the test and that is why there are other factors that are included. There are places that look at the disparity between grades and a high score on the SATs and don't accept kids to their colleges because the grades were too low or the recommendations are crap. There needs to be an explanation for why there is a disparity. But you need to have a high SAT and high grades to get into the elite schools.
For AAP, they look at GBRS and work samples. So kids with high scores but crappy GBRSs are not likely to be accepted into AAP. Why? Because there is a disparity which probably means that the kid was prepped for the test and did is not doing well in the class. AAP isn't just for raw intelligence, the kids have to show some type of motivation or need in the regular classroom.
If high tests scores were all that was needed, then there would be a lower rejection rate of the kids coming out of the pool.
How do you prep a kid for the test? Isn't the test straight forward?
Google NNAT and take a look at the first page or two of links. There are people who sell test prep packages and there are tutoring programs that people enroll their kids in that teach them how to answer the questions. So you can teach the pattern recognition to the kids. There are similar packages available for the CogAT that is taken in second grade.
The committee looks at the super high scores with suspicion because it can be prepped. There are teachers who will tell you that they hear kids saying that they knew the questions before hand, those would be kids who were repped usiing old tests and recognized the questions.
There is no doubt that a very small percentage of kids will score a perfect score without prepping but it is rare.
Anonymous
01/09/2019 21:37
Subject: NNAT results December 2018
160 on NNAT is a highest score. It is only possible if your child is born after April. Is that true?
Anonymous
01/09/2019 10:56
Subject: Re:NNAT results December 2018
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:DD got the max, 160 points on NNAT
Don't get cocky! Wait and see how your DD does on the Cogats!
However the DD does on the Cogat, she will be in pool. Samples are not needed.
If her CogAT is under 132 then she will need sample. In pool does not mean that she is in AAP. From what I have read on this site, NNAT is weighed less then the CogAT because of how/what the NNAT tests. If the CogAT score is low, that 160 in the NNAT probably is meaningless.
Not to mention, there is plenty of anecdotal evidence that kids whose scores are too high are looked at with a great deal of skepticism because it could very well indicate that a student was prepped. So the test scores should be in line with the GBRSs and other indicators. So high test scores not matched with similar GBRSs are seen as problematic because the parents prepped the kid for the test.
Instead of focusing on the number, focus on helping your child enjoy school and make her best effort in class.
This quote cracks me up. Even if the kid was "prepped" the actual test is different. Its not like the answers are the same for the prep and actual NNAT
That's like saying my kid scored high on the SATs but he was "prepped"
Everyone knows you can teach the test and that is why there are other factors that are included. There are places that look at the disparity between grades and a high score on the SATs and don't accept kids to their colleges because the grades were too low or the recommendations are crap. There needs to be an explanation for why there is a disparity. But you need to have a high SAT and high grades to get into the elite schools.
For AAP, they look at GBRS and work samples. So kids with high scores but crappy GBRSs are not likely to be accepted into AAP. Why? Because there is a disparity which probably means that the kid was prepped for the test and did is not doing well in the class. AAP isn't just for raw intelligence, the kids have to show some type of motivation or need in the regular classroom.
If high tests scores were all that was needed, then there would be a lower rejection rate of the kids coming out of the pool.
How do you prep a kid for the test? Isn't the test straight forward?
Anonymous
01/09/2019 10:44
Subject: Re:NNAT results December 2018
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:DD got the max, 160 points on NNAT
Don't get cocky! Wait and see how your DD does on the Cogats!
However the DD does on the Cogat, she will be in pool. Samples are not needed.
If her CogAT is under 132 then she will need sample. In pool does not mean that she is in AAP. From what I have read on this site, NNAT is weighed less then the CogAT because of how/what the NNAT tests. If the CogAT score is low, that 160 in the NNAT probably is meaningless.
Not to mention, there is plenty of anecdotal evidence that kids whose scores are too high are looked at with a great deal of skepticism because it could very well indicate that a student was prepped. So the test scores should be in line with the GBRSs and other indicators. So high test scores not matched with similar GBRSs are seen as problematic because the parents prepped the kid for the test.
Instead of focusing on the number, focus on helping your child enjoy school and make her best effort in class.
This quote cracks me up. Even if the kid was "prepped" the actual test is different. Its not like the answers are the same for the prep and actual NNAT
That's like saying my kid scored high on the SATs but he was "prepped"
Everyone knows you can teach the test and that is why there are other factors that are included. There are places that look at the disparity between grades and a high score on the SATs and don't accept kids to their colleges because the grades were too low or the recommendations are crap. There needs to be an explanation for why there is a disparity. But you need to have a high SAT and high grades to get into the elite schools.
For AAP, they look at GBRS and work samples. So kids with high scores but crappy GBRSs are not likely to be accepted into AAP. Why? Because there is a disparity which probably means that the kid was prepped for the test and did is not doing well in the class. AAP isn't just for raw intelligence, the kids have to show some type of motivation or need in the regular classroom.
If high tests scores were all that was needed, then there would be a lower rejection rate of the kids coming out of the pool.
Anonymous
01/09/2019 10:10
Subject: Re:NNAT results December 2018
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:DD got the max, 160 points on NNAT
Don't get cocky! Wait and see how your DD does on the Cogats!
However the DD does on the Cogat, she will be in pool. Samples are not needed.
If her CogAT is under 132 then she will need sample. In pool does not mean that she is in AAP. From what I have read on this site, NNAT is weighed less then the CogAT because of how/what the NNAT tests. If the CogAT score is low, that 160 in the NNAT probably is meaningless.
Not to mention, there is plenty of anecdotal evidence that kids whose scores are too high are looked at with a great deal of skepticism because it could very well indicate that a student was prepped. So the test scores should be in line with the GBRSs and other indicators. So high test scores not matched with similar GBRSs are seen as problematic because the parents prepped the kid for the test.
Instead of focusing on the number, focus on helping your child enjoy school and make her best effort in class.
This quote cracks me up. Even if the kid was "prepped" the actual test is different. Its not like the answers are the same for the prep and actual NNAT
That's like saying my kid scored high on the SATs but he was "prepped"
Anonymous
01/09/2019 10:02
Subject: Re:NNAT results December 2018
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:DD got the max, 160 points on NNAT
Don't get cocky! Wait and see how your DD does on the Cogats!
However the DD does on the Cogat, she will be in pool. Samples are not needed.
If her CogAT is under 132 then she will need sample. In pool does not mean that she is in AAP. From what I have read on this site, NNAT is weighed less then the CogAT because of how/what the NNAT tests. If the CogAT score is low, that 160 in the NNAT probably is meaningless.
Not to mention, there is plenty of anecdotal evidence that kids whose scores are too high are looked at with a great deal of skepticism because it could very well indicate that a student was prepped. So the test scores should be in line with the GBRSs and other indicators. So high test scores not matched with similar GBRSs are seen as problematic because the parents prepped the kid for the test.
Instead of focusing on the number, focus on helping your child enjoy school and make her best effort in class.
This quote cracks me up. Even if the kid was "prepped" the actual test is different. Its not like the answers are the same for the prep and actual NNAT
Anonymous
01/09/2019 09:40
Subject: Re:NNAT results December 2018
Anonymous wrote:It might be better if they moved it around each year, it would be harder to prep the test if it happened at random times.
The only people I know that prepped, did it over summer break.
Anonymous
01/09/2019 09:37
Subject: Re:NNAT results December 2018
We still have not received the NNAT result. Anyone else?
Anonymous
01/09/2019 09:34
Subject: Re:NNAT results December 2018
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:DD got the max, 160 points on NNAT
Don't get cocky! Wait and see how your DD does on the Cogats!
However the DD does on the Cogat, she will be in pool. Samples are not needed.
If her CogAT is under 132 then she will need sample. In pool does not mean that she is in AAP. From what I have read on this site, NNAT is weighed less then the CogAT because of how/what the NNAT tests. If the CogAT score is low, that 160 in the NNAT probably is meaningless.
Not to mention, there is plenty of anecdotal evidence that kids whose scores are too high are looked at with a great deal of skepticism because it could very well indicate that a student was prepped. So the test scores should be in line with the GBRSs and other indicators. So high test scores not matched with similar GBRSs are seen as problematic because the parents prepped the kid for the test.
Instead of focusing on the number, focus on helping your child enjoy school and make her best effort in class.
Anonymous
01/09/2019 08:06
Subject: Re:NNAT results December 2018
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:DD got the max, 160 points on NNAT
Don't get cocky! Wait and see how your DD does on the Cogats!
However the DD does on the Cogat, she will be in pool. Samples are not needed.
Anonymous
01/09/2019 08:03
Subject: Re:NNAT results December 2018
Anonymous wrote:DD got the max, 160 points on NNAT
Don't get cocky! Wait and see how your DD does on the Cogats!
Anonymous
01/09/2019 07:45
Subject: NNAT results December 2018
Still waiting for the result... Not sure if it will be mailed or sent home in the weekly folder.
Anonymous
01/07/2019 13:43
Subject: Re:NNAT results December 2018
DD got the max, 160 points on NNAT . I am not bothering with samples.
. I am not bothering with samples.
Anonymous
01/07/2019 10:57
Subject: NNAT results December 2018
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What percentile does a child need to be in to qualify for the pool?
Pool will likely be a 132 on the NNAT, which I believe is 99%
Pool will likely be a 132 on the NNAT which is 98th percentile.
Anonymous
01/07/2019 10:50
Subject: Re:NNAT results December 2018
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know why the nnat was administered earlier this year, instead of in the spring like past years?
Our AART said there was some testing conflict in the spring
It might be better if they moved it around each year, it would be harder to prep the test if it happened at random times.