Anonymous
Post 12/12/2018 14:32     Subject: Re:Racine files residency fraud lawsuits against 6 Maryland parents
Anonymous wrote:I see people complain on this board all the time about Maryland plates at DC schools.... if the DMV can determine where people live why can't DCPS? Are enrollee families not required to show evidence of residency before being admitted?

- Sincerely, parent to 2019-2020 PK3 student showing my ignorance


I haven't gotten to the end yet but a lot of families have family members that live in DC. I know someone that lives in MD but her parents live in DC. She uses their address for her son's school.

IMO, coming from a school system outside of DC, it was much harder to prove residency there. We could only use a utility bill in our names or a signed lease/mortgage. In DC you can use a DC license and a car registration. That absolutely does not prove you live in a household in DC.
Anonymous
Post 12/12/2018 14:29     Subject: Racine files residency fraud lawsuits against 6 Maryland parents
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Schools involved:

CHML
Hyde
McKinley Tech
Ellington
Ballou
Richard Wright PCS
Hardy
Wheatley

All else aside, I cannot imagine cheating to get my kid into Ballou.


Shows how difficult to prosecute as also filed false Food Stamp docs, that's why shouldn't be up to the schools. Re. Ballou didn't the teacher of the year who also committed residency fraud have some of her kids at Ballou? Think husband worked there as a coach or something.


If any of the cheaters works for the DC government in any capacity, why aren't such persons summarily fired? They've demonstrated through their fraud that they are unworthy of being placed in a position of public trust.


Innocent until proven guilty is a foreign concept to you?
Anonymous
Post 12/12/2018 14:26     Subject: Racine files residency fraud lawsuits against 6 Maryland parents
Anonymous wrote:Seeking back tuition and damages of $700,000

https://twitter.com/AGKarlRacine/status/1072907015859683328


Yes, go Racine! I’m glad I voted for him.
Anonymous
Post 12/12/2018 14:07     Subject: Racine files residency fraud lawsuits against 6 Maryland parents
The forms you literally sign to enroll make you state that this is all truthful, that this is your residence, and that there are penalties for false claims.

Anonymous
Post 12/12/2018 14:00     Subject: Racine files residency fraud lawsuits against 6 Maryland parents
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So my question- will and how will this be publicized to scare off other cheaters?


Well, for starters a reporter from Channel 4 was tweeting it out, so I assume it will be on the local news.


I seem to remember a couple of posters up at metro stop shelters within the last year.


There is signage about residency fraud being illegal in most Metro stations (particularly those on or near the DC/MD border), on buses and every school is supposed to post something too.


PP here. TBH I think this would be more effective than articles in the WaPo etc.--not sure the cheaters are all reading the WaPo cover to cover.

Seems there should especially be signs in schools, and perhaps residency fraud could also be mentioned by principal at beginning of school year, and/or mentioned on school websites. But not sure they'll require or encourage that.
Anonymous
Post 12/12/2018 13:57     Subject: Racine files residency fraud lawsuits against 6 Maryland parents
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So my question- will and how will this be publicized to scare off other cheaters?


Well, for starters a reporter from Channel 4 was tweeting it out, so I assume it will be on the local news.


I seem to remember a couple of posters up at metro stop shelters within the last year.


There is signage about residency fraud being illegal in most Metro stations (particularly those on or near the DC/MD border), on buses and every school is supposed to post something too.
Anonymous
Post 12/12/2018 13:56     Subject: Re:Racine files residency fraud lawsuits against 6 Maryland parents
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I see people complain on this board all the time about Maryland plates at DC schools.... if the DMV can determine where people live why can't DCPS? Are enrollee families not required to show evidence of residency before being admitted?

- Sincerely, parent to 2019-2020 PK3 student showing my ignorance


How so DMV doesn't know where people live, they just determine that in order to get DC tags you need such and such docs...same as DC public schools. Plenty of fraudsters driving around on DC streets with DC tags!


No one cares if you cheat on your DMV tags. That's just more $$ for DC. School tuition, however COSTS DC money.
Anonymous
Post 12/12/2018 13:56     Subject: Re:Racine files residency fraud lawsuits against 6 Maryland parents
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I see people complain on this board all the time about Maryland plates at DC schools.... if the DMV can determine where people live why can't DCPS? Are enrollee families not required to show evidence of residency before being admitted?

- Sincerely, parent to 2019-2020 PK3 student showing my ignorance


How so DMV doesn't know where people live, they just determine that in order to get DC tags you need such and such docs...same as DC public schools. Plenty of fraudsters driving around on DC streets with DC tags!


+1 And in some cases, people's living situation may be fluid. Living in grandma's house in DC for a few months, then back to a place in MD.
Anonymous
Post 12/12/2018 13:56     Subject: Racine files residency fraud lawsuits against 6 Maryland parents
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So my question- will and how will this be publicized to scare off other cheaters?


Well, for starters a reporter from Channel 4 was tweeting it out, so I assume it will be on the local news.


Now in Washington Post, at least online addition...but doubt will stop majority of folks as it seems chances of getting caught are pretty slim. They need more staff!
Anonymous
Post 12/12/2018 13:55     Subject: Racine files residency fraud lawsuits against 6 Maryland parents
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So my question- will and how will this be publicized to scare off other cheaters?


Well, for starters a reporter from Channel 4 was tweeting it out, so I assume it will be on the local news.


I seem to remember a couple of posters up at metro stop shelters within the last year.
Anonymous
Post 12/12/2018 13:54     Subject: Racine files residency fraud lawsuits against 6 Maryland parents
Anonymous wrote:So my question- will and how will this be publicized to scare off other cheaters?


Well, for starters a reporter from Channel 4 was tweeting it out, so I assume it will be on the local news.
Anonymous
Post 12/12/2018 13:51     Subject: Re:Racine files residency fraud lawsuits against 6 Maryland parents
Anonymous wrote:I see people complain on this board all the time about Maryland plates at DC schools.... if the DMV can determine where people live why can't DCPS? Are enrollee families not required to show evidence of residency before being admitted?

- Sincerely, parent to 2019-2020 PK3 student showing my ignorance


How so DMV doesn't know where people live, they just determine that in order to get DC tags you need such and such docs...same as DC public schools. Plenty of fraudsters driving around on DC streets with DC tags!
Anonymous
Post 12/12/2018 13:51     Subject: Racine files residency fraud lawsuits against 6 Maryland parents
So my question- will and how will this be publicized to scare off other cheaters?
Anonymous
Post 12/12/2018 13:49     Subject: Racine files residency fraud lawsuits against 6 Maryland parents
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Press release with details on each case https://oag.dc.gov/release/ag-racine-sues-six-maryland-parents-residency


6 parents but only 3 families and one family was double-dipping so not many cases get prosecuted. I wonder how much work this took to uncover?


One family had 4 kids cheating, another had 3.


I meant double dipping in the sense that is was the same father for two families! At least he works so can garnish his check!
Anonymous
Post 12/12/2018 13:48     Subject: Re:Racine files residency fraud lawsuits against 6 Maryland parents
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I see people complain on this board all the time about Maryland plates at DC schools.... if the DMV can determine where people live why can't DCPS? Are enrollee families not required to show evidence of residency before being admitted?

- Sincerely, parent to 2019-2020 PK3 student showing my ignorance


Yes you have to show proof of residency.

It seems one of the more common forms of residency fraud is that a family lives in Maryland but uses the address of a person living in DC (often a close relative) as their enrollment address. They may keep a DC driver's license with that address, register their car there, or have a utility bill in their name.

If you present legitimate documents that meet the requirement, how is the registrar to know if you are committing fraud.

The way people get caught is a) sloppy fraudulent documents b) someone reporting that they know Suzy Q lives elsewhere.

It's also complicated because many, many kids have parents who are divorced or separated or never married who live in separate jurisdictions. If you have one parent who legitimately lives in DC, the regulations say that is enough for you to enroll. The rules do not get into definitions of what constitutes residency, custodial parents and so forth. The rules have to be flexible to handle this reality and also enforce the law.



In one case here they also were in receipt of benefits in DC, no way registrar would know. Look at the uproar on here about Ellington criticizing the investigation, sometimes you can't win for trying. A registrar is not a police officer they can only accept what is provided but not their job to also be detectives, if it passes the sniff test they have to take it.