Anonymous wrote:Can anyone recommend a Jeep-like vehicle with excellent safety ratings?
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There are no other “Jeep-like” vehicles. Period. Wranglers are in a class all by themselves when it comes to capabilities. Even other Jeep brand vehicles (Grand Cherokee, Cherokee, Patriot, Compass) aren’t even in the same category. There is literally nothing else manufactured today that can do what a Jeep Wrangler can, off-road. Not a Range Rover or Land Rover, not the Benz G-wagon, not the Toyota Landcruiser or 4Runner, nothing. The Wrangler is a whole category of vehicle all by itself. There more cars that have “Bugatti Chiron-like” performance than have “Jeep Wrangler-like” performance.

It’s literally the rarest *type* of vehicle in the world, despite being quite common. And if/when it ever stops being manufactured, it will literally be the end for an entire class of vehicle. That’s something that hasn’t happened since the 1920’s, when Bugatti and Dusenburg stopped making single-seat coupes.

It’s interesting to me that ths OP seems to pop up a couple times a year with a thread like this, or posts during other threads about cars whenever “Jeep Wrangler” appears, and posts things like this, of questionable legitimacy, or casts aspersions at people who drive Wranglers.


It’s weird. But I’ve seen it enough now to recognize the OP’s writing style and the M/O.



OP- what’s your deal? Why do you hate Jeeps and Jeep owners so much? Did an EX drive a Jeep? What’s the story?

Anonymous wrote:Can anyone recommend a Jeep-like vehicle with excellent safety ratings?

Or for that matter, just a good car with good safety and reliability? We are looking to sell our old Volvo and buy new, but I'm not convinced Volvo is the safety leader it once was.

There is nothing comparable right now that is Jeep like - in terms of the Wrangler. Toyota had the FJ but that was discontinued years ago. Some recommended the Nissan Pathfinder but it wasn't anything equal when I test drove it (nice SUV but not similar).

Anonymous wrote:Can anyone recommend a Jeep-like vehicle with excellent safety ratings?

Or for that matter, just a good car with good safety and reliability? We are looking to sell our old Volvo and buy new, but I'm not convinced Volvo is the safety leader it once was.

We passed on volvo due to the string of bad reliability and safety reviews.

Can anyone recommend a Jeep-like vehicle with excellent safety ratings?

Or for that matter, just a good car with good safety and reliability? We are looking to sell our old Volvo and buy new, but I'm not convinced Volvo is the safety leader it once was.

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Anonymous wrote:If you aren't driving one, why do you care?

Exactly. If you don't think they are safe, don't buy one.

P.S. -- How about all of those people on here who boast about driving a 15 year old car "until the wheels fall off." None of those cars have the safety features of the new cars. Are you as critical of them?

Because those 15 year old cars are safer than this POS Jeep!

You just do not have $50k to spend so you’d rather slam it than enjoy one. Enjoy your Honda minivan.

Wrangler and "$50k car" in the same sentence

Technically the one I want is $54.

By that logic the Odyssey is also a $50k car, and the BMW 5-series is a $96k car because you can get an M550i and check every option. The Wrangler starts at $27k and 9/10 units sold will be the base model.

I highly doubt 9/10 models are base models. And if they are, people load them up with a bunch of after market shit.

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Anonymous wrote:If you aren't driving one, why do you care?

Exactly. If you don't think they are safe, don't buy one.

P.S. -- How about all of those people on here who boast about driving a 15 year old car "until the wheels fall off." None of those cars have the safety features of the new cars. Are you as critical of them?

Because those 15 year old cars are safer than this POS Jeep!

You just do not have $50k to spend so you’d rather slam it than enjoy one. Enjoy your Honda minivan.

Wrangler and "$50k car" in the same sentence

Technically the one I want is $54.

By that logic the Odyssey is also a $50k car, and the BMW 5-series is a $96k car because you can get an M550i and check every option. The Wrangler starts at $27k and 9/10 units sold will be the base model.

The point of a Wangler is to off road. The lower models cannot do so without significant upgrades so they make no sense. Most sold are not base models. Most are the middle two.

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Anonymous wrote:If you aren't driving one, why do you care?

Exactly. If you don't think they are safe, don't buy one.

P.S. -- How about all of those people on here who boast about driving a 15 year old car "until the wheels fall off." None of those cars have the safety features of the new cars. Are you as critical of them?

Because those 15 year old cars are safer than this POS Jeep!

You just do not have $50k to spend so you’d rather slam it than enjoy one. Enjoy your Honda minivan.

Wrangler and "$50k car" in the same sentence

Technically the one I want is $54.

By that logic the Odyssey is also a $50k car, and the BMW 5-series is a $96k car because you can get an M550i and check every option. The Wrangler starts at $27k and 9/10 units sold will be the base model.

Anonymous wrote:I don't GAF if you want to get yourself a Wrangler. Heck, they look fun!

For the life of me, though, I cannot comprehend why any parent in their right mind would get one for their kid. Yet, Wranglers seem to be the car of choice for the spoiled teenager set this season.

Ditto this. It's not the safety features that a car does or does not have, it is the control issues associated with driving the Wrangler. This is NOT a vehicle appropriate for an inexperienced driver.