Anonymous
Post 11/24/2018 17:02     Subject: Article: Why Can't Allyson Get Ahead?

I've been out of high school for almost 25 years, but the kids that took multiple AP classes did not go on to achieve worthless two-year degrees. Something does not add up.
Anonymous
Post 11/24/2018 16:49     Subject: Article: Why Can't Allyson Get Ahead?

Yeah, the student loans to get the useless associates' degree was the first of many poor decisions. The "No Child Left Behind" law made people like Allyson think that a degree, any degree, in any subject, would be enough to create and maintain a stable economic existence. We would be better off, as a country, if we would bring back a lot more vocational ed and offer a lot more direction and incentive in the community college sphere towards steering the Allysons (and her male counterparts) into more skilled trades. There is a huge dearth of young people who know how to be electricians, plumbers, medical technicians, mechanics---the last 25 years of educational policy have made people think they are somehow "less than" the college educated if they pursue those fields. But no one is outsourcing those jobs to India or the Philippines. And unskilled immigrants can't easily acquire those jobs because they don't have the language skills to obtain the necessary training.
Anonymous
Post 11/24/2018 16:07     Subject: Article: Why Can't Allyson Get Ahead?

I love how folks have empathy and compassion for men who can’t find jobs. But women with kids are a source of scorn. The men who fathers these children don’t pay and don’t have to provide emotionally for the children. Men never suffer the consequences of bad choices. People will scream you live in a bubble if your criticize men’s poor choices of careers but women are open season.
Anonymous
Post 11/24/2018 16:06     Subject: Re:Article: Why Can't Allyson Get Ahead?

“A pregnancy to a woman is perhaps one of the most determinative aspects of her life. It disrupts her body. It disrupts her education. It disrupts her employment. And it often disrupts her entire family life.”
- Sarah Weddington
Anonymous
Post 11/24/2018 15:58     Subject: Article: Why Can't Allyson Get Ahead?

She was never going to get ahead based on all her poor decisions. She took out student loans of $18,000 to get a degree in early childhood education. She now owes $22,000 on those loans. She could have gotten that degree for almost free at a community college. It also says she had saved up $7,000 yet showed so much money.
Then she could have stayed in Kentucky where the father of her child lives so he could help with childcare and expenses.
Anonymous
Post 11/24/2018 15:38     Subject: Article: Why Can't Allyson Get Ahead?

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:I somehow get a feeling that many who say she made a bunch of poor decisions also would be against an abortion.

Sticking with that would have saved everyone a lot of trouble. And that is the truth for a lot of families out there. I would even say that about my BIL’s kids.

But how does any of this judgment of how she got here help now? It’s counterproductive.


I get the same feeling. I have no idea what should happen now, although offering free long-term contraception to anyone under 25 is a good start. I'd be okay with incentivizing it, too. I think publishing stories like this serves a valuable purpose, because there are a lot of people out there who seriously underestimate how difficult it is to raise kids when you're low-income.


+10000

This is a great start to solving this problem. None of the pro-birthers are pushing for this though - which makes sense since they aren’t trying to solve any problems. They just want to judge and punish people, like heartless twiats.


Anytime someone pushes for free long term contraception, they’re called racist and accused of wanting to steralize minorities.


Bullshit


Many States offered Norplan as part of welfare benefits. They were sued, so, you’re wrong.


Don’t offer it as part of welfare. That’s f-ed up.

But it should be an option — along with good healthcare — for all women.


Why is that fed up?

Seems a judicious trade off.


You really need to ask why? Your moral compass is broken.

It’s one thing to offer it to ALL young people in a free, easily accessible way.

It’s another to force it on groups of people, many who were born into welfare themselves.

It’s pretty sad if you can’t discern the difference.




Like I posted, anytime it’s mentioned, people call racism.

Just look above, I say people call racism, someone calls BS, then someone argues it is. Lol
Anonymous
Post 11/24/2018 15:25     Subject: Article: Why Can't Allyson Get Ahead?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I somehow get a feeling that many who say she made a bunch of poor decisions also would be against an abortion.

Sticking with that would have saved everyone a lot of trouble. And that is the truth for a lot of families out there. I would even say that about my BIL’s kids.

But how does any of this judgment of how she got here help now? It’s counterproductive.


I get the same feeling. I have no idea what should happen now, although offering free long-term contraception to anyone under 25 is a good start. I'd be okay with incentivizing it, too. I think publishing stories like this serves a valuable purpose, because there are a lot of people out there who seriously underestimate how difficult it is to raise kids when you're low-income.


+10000

This is a great start to solving this problem. None of the pro-birthers are pushing for this though - which makes sense since they aren’t trying to solve any problems. They just want to judge and punish people, like heartless twiats.


Anytime someone pushes for free long term contraception, they’re called racist and accused of wanting to steralize minorities.


Bullshit


Many States offered Norplan as part of welfare benefits. They were sued, so, you’re wrong.


Don’t offer it as part of welfare. That’s f-ed up.

But it should be an option — along with good healthcare — for all women.


Why is that fed up?

Seems a judicious trade off.


You really need to ask why? Your moral compass is broken.

It’s one thing to offer it to ALL young people in a free, easily accessible way.

It’s another to force it on groups of people, many who were born into welfare themselves.

It’s pretty sad if you can’t discern the difference.


Anonymous
Post 11/24/2018 15:15     Subject: Article: Why Can't Allyson Get Ahead?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I somehow get a feeling that many who say she made a bunch of poor decisions also would be against an abortion.

Sticking with that would have saved everyone a lot of trouble. And that is the truth for a lot of families out there. I would even say that about my BIL’s kids.

But how does any of this judgment of how she got here help now? It’s counterproductive.


I get the same feeling. I have no idea what should happen now, although offering free long-term contraception to anyone under 25 is a good start. I'd be okay with incentivizing it, too. I think publishing stories like this serves a valuable purpose, because there are a lot of people out there who seriously underestimate how difficult it is to raise kids when you're low-income.


+10000

This is a great start to solving this problem. None of the pro-birthers are pushing for this though - which makes sense since they aren’t trying to solve any problems. They just want to judge and punish people, like heartless twiats.


Anytime someone pushes for free long term contraception, they’re called racist and accused of wanting to steralize minorities.


Bullshit


Many States offered Norplan as part of welfare benefits. They were sued, so, you’re wrong.


Don’t offer it as part of welfare. That’s f-ed up.

But it should be an option — along with good healthcare — for all women.


How is that messed up? It wasn’t a requirement in order to qualify, it was an offer to pay for it.

Subsidies for rent - necessary.
Subsidies for food - necessary.
Subsidies for birth control - racist.

Nice logic.
Anonymous
Post 11/24/2018 15:06     Subject: Article: Why Can't Allyson Get Ahead?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have to know how Allyson manages to accidentally get pregnant at all during a time in which birth control pills, condoms, spermicidal lube, and Plan B is all available at the nearest pharmacy?

Allyson seems like the type of person who will find herself woefully unprepared for anything, be it preventing a pregnancy or the aftermath of a natural disaster.

This isn't about being pregnant.... this is about being Allyson.


Fifty percent of pregnancies are unplanned/accidental. Are you unaware of reality?



So you are saying that 49% of the pregnancies are among women as stupid as Allyson. Accidental would be about 1%.


How do you define “accidental”?
Anonymous
Post 11/24/2018 15:05     Subject: Article: Why Can't Allyson Get Ahead?

So, the stupid ones can abort, right? RIGHT?
Anonymous
Post 11/24/2018 15:04     Subject: Article: Why Can't Allyson Get Ahead?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have to know how Allyson manages to accidentally get pregnant at all during a time in which birth control pills, condoms, spermicidal lube, and Plan B is all available at the nearest pharmacy?

Allyson seems like the type of person who will find herself woefully unprepared for anything, be it preventing a pregnancy or the aftermath of a natural disaster.

This isn't about being pregnant.... this is about being Allyson.


Fifty percent of pregnancies are unplanned/accidental. Are you unaware of reality?


Because people consider not using any birth control and getting pregnant "unplanned" and "accidental." If you're not using at least one form of birth control and having sex, getting pregnant is expected, planned, and deliberate.

It is only "unplanned" and "accidental" when you're using birth control and it fails, or you were raped or otherwise involuntarily inseminated.
Anonymous
Post 11/24/2018 14:59     Subject: Article: Why Can't Allyson Get Ahead?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have to know how Allyson manages to accidentally get pregnant at all during a time in which birth control pills, condoms, spermicidal lube, and Plan B is all available at the nearest pharmacy?

Allyson seems like the type of person who will find herself woefully unprepared for anything, be it preventing a pregnancy or the aftermath of a natural disaster.

This isn't about being pregnant.... this is about being Allyson.


Fifty percent of pregnancies are unplanned/accidental. Are you unaware of reality?



So you are saying that 49% of the pregnancies are among women as stupid as Allyson. Accidental would be about 1%.
Anonymous
Post 11/24/2018 14:59     Subject: Article: Why Can't Allyson Get Ahead?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Good, I see we’re kicking someone already down.


It’s the American way. F*ck you for being poor! The shocking lack of empathy is staggering.

I also find it ironic she named her child Atlas.


That’s cause she didn’t know the baby daddy’s name.


Stop. She isn’t Casey Anthony.
Anonymous
Post 11/24/2018 14:50     Subject: Article: Why Can't Allyson Get Ahead?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Good, I see we’re kicking someone already down.


It’s the American way. F*ck you for being poor! The shocking lack of empathy is staggering.

I also find it ironic she named her child Atlas.


That’s cause she didn’t know the baby daddy’s name.
Anonymous
Post 11/24/2018 14:23     Subject: Article: Why Can't Allyson Get Ahead?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I somehow get a feeling that many who say she made a bunch of poor decisions also would be against an abortion.

Sticking with that would have saved everyone a lot of trouble. And that is the truth for a lot of families out there. I would even say that about my BIL’s kids.

But how does any of this judgment of how she got here help now? It’s counterproductive.


I get the same feeling. I have no idea what should happen now, although offering free long-term contraception to anyone under 25 is a good start. I'd be okay with incentivizing it, too. I think publishing stories like this serves a valuable purpose, because there are a lot of people out there who seriously underestimate how difficult it is to raise kids when you're low-income.


+10000

This is a great start to solving this problem. None of the pro-birthers are pushing for this though - which makes sense since they aren’t trying to solve any problems. They just want to judge and punish people, like heartless twiats.


Anytime someone pushes for free long term contraception, they’re called racist and accused of wanting to steralize minorities.


Bullshit


Many States offered Norplan as part of welfare benefits. They were sued, so, you’re wrong.


Don’t offer it as part of welfare. That’s f-ed up.

But it should be an option — along with good healthcare — for all women.


Why is that fed up?

Seems a judicious trade off.