Anonymous wrote:Every FCPS teacher's nightmare. The following acronyms profiling one student.

2E
ADHD
AAP

Please for everyone's sake (teachers, students, parents), enroll your student in the regular curriculum before you constantly harass teachers and counselors to babysit and nurse your little snowflake to class.

Yes, we believe that it is a teacher's nightmare. But we are very grateful for teachers and counselors who are there to help these kids along the way. Thank you for being the wind beneath their wings. Thank you for letting these kids know that with them, the sky is their limits.

History has proven that these 2e kids are special, they might be the ones that change the world for the better. And without teachers/counselor, it's not going to happen.
"One child, one teacher, one book, one pen can change the world". Please be that teacher!!!!!!!

Anonymous wrote:Every FCPS teacher's nightmare. The following acronyms profiling one student.

2E
ADHD
AAP

Please for everyone's sake (teachers, students, parents), enroll your student in the regular curriculum before you constantly harass teachers and counselors to babysit and nurse your little snowflake to class.

Why is it such a nightmare for you wonderful teachers?

Anonymous wrote:Every FCPS teacher's nightmare. The following acronyms profiling one student.

2E
ADHD
AAP

Please for everyone's sake (teachers, students, parents), enroll your student in the regular curriculum before you constantly harass teachers and counselors to babysit and nurse your little snowflake to class.

These 2e are truly gifted kids, not just "advanced". Just like any kids with learning disabilities that get special treatments, being gifted does not mean these kids should not have accommodations. Why should our 2e kids need to be in regular curriculum?????

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Every FCPS teacher's nightmare. The following acronyms profiling one student.

2E
ADHD
AAP

Please for everyone's sake (teachers, students, parents), enroll your student in the regular curriculum before you constantly harass teachers and counselors to babysit and nurse your little snowflake to class.

Because why should we make an effort to challenge a child who is very bright but processes information differently? I mean, by all means, lets keep "those kids" out of challenging programs that might engage them and help them to grow as people.

Many kids with learning disabilities and ADHD have above average intelligence, they process information differently. Once you understand how a child processes information, the child is capable of very impressive work. Asking teachers and the school district to help a child understand how they learn is hardly all that much to ask. Or are you actually advocating that we consign bright kids who learn differently to a world of mediocrity or failure because a child might need a bit of extra help?

No one is saying that kids with more serious learning issues should be in AAP, but kids with learning issues who are intelligent should have the same access to AAP as a kid without said learning issues.

What do you mean when you say "with more serious learning issues"?

I would mean a child who cannot do the work with support. Tutors, resource support and the like can help a gifted child with learning issues succeed in advanced classes. If those resources are in place and the child continues to struggle, the AAP placement might not be the best placement. But you could make that argument for any child who is in AAP and not able to keep up, whether it is due to learning issues or lack of effort.

I am not the person to determine what more serious issues might be. I would hope that a parent is working with various support personal to decide what is best for their child but also willing to see that some efforts are not working and a change is needed. There are children with serious learning issues who can thrive in AAP and there are very smart kids who will flounder in AAP. Each situation is individual and should be looked at as such.

Public schools are meant to meet the needs of all and have limitations on what they can provide. Schools need to be willing to work with children who learn differently and parents need to determine what is best for their child. I would hope that any parent who has a child with learning disabilities is working with professionals that are providing support or adequate information to help parents make informed decisions. That might be that the parent should be pressing for their child to be included in a program like AAP because their child can succeed in it, with or without support, or a parent understanding that an AAP placement might be too much for their child. But really, that is no different then any parent.

I would not trust the school if the school said that a child with a learning disability cannot handle AAP even if their test scores and gen ed classwork demonstrates that they met the bench mark. I would work with tutors and the like to see if the individualized support can help my child meet the demands of AAP. If so, I would advocate for my child. If my child was struggling with AAP even with support, I would consider pulling my child until we learned how my child processed information and was succeeding in a regular classroom. Then I would revist the AAP option.

We all want what is best for our kids. Sometimes that is a program like AAP and some times it is gen ed. It depends on the child, the parents understanding of what the child is capable of (and that is not told just by test scores), and sometimes, unfortunately, what resources the parents can afford to provide (tutors and the like).

Anonymous wrote:Every FCPS teacher's nightmare. The following acronyms profiling one student.

2E
ADHD
AAP

Please for everyone's sake (teachers, students, parents), enroll your student in the regular curriculum before you constantly harass teachers and counselors to babysit and nurse your little snowflake to class.

Because my ADHD AAP snowflake is entitled to a free and appropriate public education under section 504 of the Rehabilitation Act of 1973, not to be denied academic services because of a medical issue. Thank goodness my child's teacher doesn't share your attitude and recommended a 504 to formalize and ensure she gets the accommodations the teacher was already providing.

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Anonymous wrote:Every FCPS teacher's nightmare. The following acronyms profiling one student.

2E
ADHD
AAP

Please for everyone's sake (teachers, students, parents), enroll your student in the regular curriculum before you constantly harass teachers and counselors to babysit and nurse your little snowflake to class.

Because why should we make an effort to challenge a child who is very bright but processes information differently? I mean, by all means, lets keep "those kids" out of challenging programs that might engage them and help them to grow as people.

Many kids with learning disabilities and ADHD have above average intelligence, they process information differently. Once you understand how a child processes information, the child is capable of very impressive work. Asking teachers and the school district to help a child understand how they learn is hardly all that much to ask. Or are you actually advocating that we consign bright kids who learn differently to a world of mediocrity or failure because a child might need a bit of extra help?

No one is saying that kids with more serious learning issues should be in AAP, but kids with learning issues who are intelligent should have the same access to AAP as a kid without said learning issues.

What do you mean when you say "with more serious learning issues"?

Anonymous wrote:Every FCPS teacher's nightmare. The following acronyms profiling one student.

2E
ADHD
AAP

Please for everyone's sake (teachers, students, parents), enroll your student in the regular curriculum before you constantly harass teachers and counselors to babysit and nurse your little snowflake to class.

Because why should we make an effort to challenge a child who is very bright but processes information differently? I mean, by all means, lets keep "those kids" out of challenging programs that might engage them and help them to grow as people.

Many kids with learning disabilities and ADHD have above average intelligence, they process information differently. Once you understand how a child processes information, the child is capable of very impressive work. Asking teachers and the school district to help a child understand how they learn is hardly all that much to ask. Or are you actually advocating that we consign bright kids who learn differently to a world of mediocrity or failure because a child might need a bit of extra help?

No one is saying that kids with more serious learning issues should be in AAP, but kids with learning issues who are intelligent should have the same access to AAP as a kid without said learning issues.

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Anonymous wrote:Every FCPS teacher's nightmare. The following acronyms profiling one student.

2E
ADHD
AAP

Please for everyone's sake (teachers, students, parents), enroll your student in the regular curriculum before you constantly harass teachers and counselors to babysit and nurse your little snowflake to class.

Everyone's entitled to an appropriate education. Have you read any memoirs of leading CEOs/scientists/elite athletes lately? Steve Jobs? Richard Branson? Most of them are 2E ADHD and extremely high IQ. These folks are often people who end up driving humankind forward with their creative thinking. We should be finding more ways to appropriately educate them not tell them they don't deserve education closer to their level.

Sounds like they do appropriately educate if your in the McLean, Langley, or Madison pyramids.

Anonymous wrote:Every FCPS teacher's nightmare. The following acronyms profiling one student.

2E
ADHD
AAP

Please for everyone's sake (teachers, students, parents), enroll your student in the regular curriculum before you constantly harass teachers and counselors to babysit and nurse your little snowflake to class.

Ahhh this explains a puzzle I’ve been trying to figure for about 4 months.

Anonymous wrote:Every FCPS teacher's nightmare. The following acronyms profiling one student.

2E
ADHD
AAP

Please for everyone's sake (teachers, students, parents), enroll your student in the regular curriculum before you constantly harass teachers and counselors to babysit and nurse your little snowflake to class.

Everyone's entitled to an appropriate education. Have you read any memoirs of leading CEOs/scientists/elite athletes lately? Steve Jobs? Richard Branson? Most of them are 2E ADHD and extremely high IQ. These folks are often people who end up driving humankind forward with their creative thinking. We should be finding more ways to appropriately educate them not tell them they don't deserve education closer to their level.

Anonymous wrote:Every FCPS teacher's nightmare. The following acronyms profiling one student.

2E
ADHD
AAP

Please for everyone's sake (teachers, students, parents), enroll your student in the regular curriculum before you constantly harass teachers and counselors to babysit and nurse your little snowflake to class.

If a teacher doesn’t want to teach these types of kids, their ass needs to tell his or boss so or find a professional that they like and are willing to do to the best of their ability.

Us parents didn’t ask them to take that job. They put a front on likes it’s no issue and all they want to do is help, but in reality it’s just the opposite. Some of these people working at schools should be in jail for the way they treat innocent children and their families.

Every FCPS teacher's nightmare. The following acronyms profiling one student.

2E
ADHD
AAP

Please for everyone's sake (teachers, students, parents), enroll your student in the regular curriculum before you constantly harass teachers and counselors to babysit and nurse your little snowflake to class.

Anonymous wrote:To the poster who has a kid with attention/writing/ and other ADHD symptoms—

Go get an evaluation.

Your pediatrician can diagnose ADHD— and the diagnosis entitles your kid to a 504 plan. (IEPs are harder to get)

But- I’d encourage you to go get a neuropsychologist to do a “real” assessment. Not your pediatrician. For me— the diagnosis of ADHD isn’t all that helpful (although it will get you a 504). It’s the detailed neuro pysch report that helped me better understand my child’s struggles and needs. Frankly, part of its value is in ruling out areas where there ARE NOT problems. But those reports are expensive. Around 3K, and insurance won’t cover most of it.

+1

We have an ADHD 4th grade AAP student, and having the diagnosis in hand when we went for the 504 (that the teacher recommended) was helpful. There was little discussion at the screening meeting about qualification (kid qualified) and more about accommodations.

Honestly, though, the big difference between 3rd and 4th has been the extremely organized classroom teacher. Third grade was scattered and disorganized, which didn't help my scatterbrained child. Fourth grade teacher is very organized, and that's helping build some structure for our still scatterbrained child. We follow through with the teacher's routines (planner signing, reviewing the weekly schedule together, noting what needs to come home/go to school each day in planner notes) at home.

To the poster who has a kid with attention/writing/ and other ADHD symptoms—

Go get an evaluation.

Your pediatrician can diagnose ADHD— and the diagnosis entitles your kid to a 504 plan. (IEPs are harder to get)

But- I’d encourage you to go get a neuropsychologist to do a “real” assessment. Not your pediatrician. For me— the diagnosis of ADHD isn’t all that helpful (although it will get you a 504). It’s the detailed neuro pysch report that helped me better understand my child’s struggles and needs. Frankly, part of its value is in ruling out areas where there ARE NOT problems. But those reports are expensive. Around 3K, and insurance won’t cover most of it.

Anonymous wrote:How can I get a 504 for my undiagnosed adhd AAP 4th grader?
Sounds like it’s goubg to be a fight

you need to get an official diagnosis first.