Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:I feel like I paid my dues growing up, during which time my family rescued a total of six dogs from the shelter. Most were great, but two had to be euthanized after developing rage syndrome and viciously biting in totally unprovoked situations.

We took a break from dogs for a while as adults, and when we finally decided to get one, we wanted sweet and predictable and, since the standards of dog care have risen so much and dogs are expected to be indoors all the time now, non-shedding. So we bought what we wanted.

How selfless of you.

See, this is where you're doing more harm to your [admittedly very noble] cause. I gave a pretty honest answer of my lifetime experiences with dogs, the good and the very sad and unfortunate. And you can do nothing but take that and shlt on me for it.

Are you hoping to convince people of your way of thinking?

Are really expecting folks to applaud your choice simply because your parents rescued dogs? I applaud your parents, not you. Too bad you learned nothing from them.

My parents moved on to breeders in their old age. For various reasons, they needed dogs that are easier to manage. (They also abandoned the Democratic Party, fwiw.)

When we got our first dog from a breeder, a white relative of my mixed-race spouse starting harassing spouse about it, saying that "of all people, you (as a mixed-race person) should know better."

Sometimes you just have to let crazy be crazy. A lot of the anti-breeder folks fall in the crazy category.

You don't want to participate on this thread, then don't participate. It's not hard. Unless I've hit a nerve . . .

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Anonymous wrote:I buy the purebred dogs I like. I could not care less whether you or anybody else looks down your righteously indignant snotty nose at me. And I sleep just fine.

Build the wall! Build the wall!

No difference between the two. You're the dog equivalent of a Trump supporter. You care only about yourself.

Oh my goodness. And you're the picture of a tolerant, open minded, let in MS-13 liberal. See? That's silly.

Let's say I run my home like a good immigration and border agency. When someone applies for asylum, we interview them, we get information, and we determine for the best interests of the US if they should be granted entry. [This is separate from crazy build the wall. This is how it is/used to work pre-Trump]. I'm doing the same thing for my household. Not building a wall, but not just letting any random dog in without any real knowledge of their background.

Obviously I called it right in your case!

Anonymous wrote:Vote to end the thread. Crazy troll who really is interested only in a fight.

Seconded.

Vote to end the thread. Crazy troll who really is interested only in a fight.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I buy the purebred dogs I like. I could not care less whether you or anybody else looks down your righteously indignant snotty nose at me. And I sleep just fine.

Build the wall! Build the wall!

No difference between the two. You're the dog equivalent of a Trump supporter. You care only about yourself.

come on now. I'm a trump supporter and work in dog rescue... we try and educate them Democrats on proper neutering

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Anonymous wrote:I buy the purebred dogs I like. I could not care less whether you or anybody else looks down your righteously indignant snotty nose at me. And I sleep just fine.

Build the wall! Build the wall!

No difference between the two. You're the dog equivalent of a Trump supporter. You care only about yourself.

NP. I voted for Trump AND bought a labradoodle puppy.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I feel like I paid my dues growing up, during which time my family rescued a total of six dogs from the shelter. Most were great, but two had to be euthanized after developing rage syndrome and viciously biting in totally unprovoked situations.

We took a break from dogs for a while as adults, and when we finally decided to get one, we wanted sweet and predictable and, since the standards of dog care have risen so much and dogs are expected to be indoors all the time now, non-shedding. So we bought what we wanted.

How selfless of you.

See, this is where you're doing more harm to your [admittedly very noble] cause. I gave a pretty honest answer of my lifetime experiences with dogs, the good and the very sad and unfortunate. And you can do nothing but take that and shlt on me for it.

Are you hoping to convince people of your way of thinking?

Are really expecting folks to applaud your choice simply because your parents rescued dogs? I applaud your parents, not you. Too bad you learned nothing from them.

Anonymous wrote:The anger of pro-shelter people is unreal. You really don't want to understand, and are unwilling to accept any consideration that people have valid reasons for making different choices.

I'm hoping it's one angry person who keeps posting the same garbage. And who fails to see the irony in calling anyone with a different opinion a "Trump supporter."

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I buy the purebred dogs I like. I could not care less whether you or anybody else looks down your righteously indignant snotty nose at me. And I sleep just fine.

Build the wall! Build the wall!

No difference between the two. You're the dog equivalent of a Trump supporter. You care only about yourself.

Oh my goodness. And you're the picture of a tolerant, open minded, let in MS-13 liberal. See? That's silly.

Let's say I run my home like a good immigration and border agency. When someone applies for asylum, we interview them, we get information, and we determine for the best interests of the US if they should be granted entry. [This is separate from crazy build the wall. This is how it is/used to work pre-Trump]. I'm doing the same thing for my household. Not building a wall, but not just letting any random dog in without any real knowledge of their background.

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Anonymous wrote:How do I sleep at night? That's a pretty extreme perspective on this issue.

Are ALL rescues dangerous and unpredictable? No, of course not. Nor are ALL puppies from breeders safe and predictable. But we have three small kids and are not going to expose them to unnecessary risk by bringing a rescue home. Adopting a rescue can present safety issues (and many rescue organizations won't place dogs into families with small kids for this very reason).

If we didn't have little kids, things would be different. But we do, so there it is.

Also, I sleep just fine at night, thanks, in part because I'm not judging the heck out of people over an issue that, in the grand scheme of our dumpster fire of a country, is small potatoes.

Ha ha 2:39 was spot on then! This IS how you justify it! Pathetic. If you truly feel this way, the safer option is not to get a dog at all when you have kids. But keep making your excuses . . .

Uh, okay. And you keep being angry at strangers for no reason?

Republicans and breeders are the worst. Not necessarily in that order.

Ahh yes, there's that good old liberal tolerance and open-mindedness with which we're all so familiar.

1. We needed one of a very limited list of specific breeds known for being less allergenic (less dander). None of them could be found at local shelters or rescues.

2. Temperament is largely inherited, and we wanted to be sure of getting a sociable, friendly dog. One of the many duties of a good breeder is make the lineage characteristics known to prospective buyers. Our dog's parents and grandparents are all very social, and so is he and his littermates.


You appear to be confused about the differences between puppy mills, backyard breeders and reputable breeders. The first is by definition unethical. The second may not place the dogs' interest first, either through ignorance, lack of means, or cruelty. The third should be the only genetically and ethically sound solution to pet ownership.

Reputable breeders are passionate about their work and it usually costs them much more than any income from dog sales or stud fees. Call it an expensive second job, if you will. They attach great importance to weeding out genetically-inherited diseases that have developed through the decades by poor breeding programs, by testing every single dog they own and entering all results - both good and bad - in the national dog health database (CHIC). They do not breed unhealthy carriers.

Our breeder set a camera 24/7 in the whelping pen she had constructed in her bedroom, so that we could check on the puppies and dam at any moment, right from birth.

We saw the breeder handle the puppies every single day, as she should, to habituate them to human handling. I can clean my dog's ears, clip his nails, take away embedded thorns in his pads, clean very sensitive areas, take away his food, clean his teeth, place medication down his throat, and he will not flinch. That is a result of proper handling.

The breeder exposed them to all kinds of city and farm noises, so they wouldn't be jumpy creatures.
She leash-trained and started to potty-train them before we picked up our puppy at 9 weeks.

We visited her home, and the dogs were well cared for. Good breeders care for a small number of dogs, which live inside the home and not in a kennel. They do not breed mothers often. Our breeder manages a birth once every two years and allows two pregnancies per dam.

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Pitbulls.

It is hard to trust shelters who try to pass off obvious pitbulls or pitbull mixes as "mixes", "labs", "lab mixes" "terrier mix"

Avoiding a pitbull in the bloodline makes a breeder super appealing.

I used to be pro mutt back in the day, but with the number of rescued pitbulls appearing in my child filled, suburban neighborhood has made me very anti rescue.

I suspect your antipathy towards mutts increased along with your income.

No.

It increases every time a child is mauled or killed by a gentle family pitbull nanny dog.

Exactly how often has that happened in your "child filled, suburban neighborhood?"

Happenned yesterday in North Carolina. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wfmynews2.com/amp/article%3fsection=news&subsection=local&headline=nc-child-attacked-by-family-dog-dies&contentId=83-608548369

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Anonymous wrote:How do I sleep at night? That's a pretty extreme perspective on this issue.

Are ALL rescues dangerous and unpredictable? No, of course not. Nor are ALL puppies from breeders safe and predictable. But we have three small kids and are not going to expose them to unnecessary risk by bringing a rescue home. Adopting a rescue can present safety issues (and many rescue organizations won't place dogs into families with small kids for this very reason).

If we didn't have little kids, things would be different. But we do, so there it is.

Also, I sleep just fine at night, thanks, in part because I'm not judging the heck out of people over an issue that, in the grand scheme of our dumpster fire of a country, is small potatoes.

Ha ha 2:39 was spot on then! This IS how you justify it! Pathetic. If you truly feel this way, the safer option is not to get a dog at all when you have kids. But keep making your excuses . . .

Uh, okay. And you keep being angry at strangers for no reason?

Republicans and breeders are the worst. Not necessarily in that order.

If you truly think that, I have no words.